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Ghost Leviathan posted:I read somewhere that Muhammed Ali met Gorgeous George at one point and/or watched a match, and got the idea to play the heel to the media to sell tickets to his matches, figuring it'd work for a real sport as well as a fake one. He was right. A match between Gorgeous George and Freddy Blassie, yeah. Ali noticed that this worked fight drew better than his real fight, and paid attention.
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Arbite posted:A match between Gorgeous George and Freddy Blassie, yeah. Ali noticed that this worked fight drew better than his real fight, and paid attention. To be fair, Ville Valo does claim he designed the heartagram, and Bam Margera does believe he is Ville Valo, so
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Dustin got a little too far into the gimmick sometimes. He once pitched to Vince that he should get breast implants. Yeeeah.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I read somewhere that Muhammed Ali met Gorgeous George at one point and/or watched a match, and got the idea to play the heel to the media to sell tickets to his matches, figuring it'd work for a real sport as well as a fake one. He was right. And as a result of that fateful meeting, sports entertainment was born. Just think, without Gorgeous George there would be no Connor McGregor press conferences or Skip Bayless TV shows.
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Prof. Crocodile posted:And as a result of that fateful meeting, sports entertainment was born. Just think, without Gorgeous George there would be no Connor McGregor press conferences or Skip Bayless TV shows. Terminatoring up here and setting my time machine to "Gorgeous George's first match"
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My dad is old enough to have seen Gorgeous George "back in the day" and used to talk about how he'd toss out Bobby Pins to the crowd, but he'd call them "Georgie Pins". Also, was "Adorable" Adrian Adonis a gay panic gimmick?
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wesleywillis posted:My dad is old enough to have seen Gorgeous George "back in the day" and used to talk about how he'd toss out Bobby Pins to the crowd, but he'd call them "Georgie Pins". It was a gay panic character but also more of a Vince punishing a wrestler because he put on a bunch of weight.
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Dr. Zoggle posted:It was a gay panic character but also more of a Vince punishing a wrestler because he put on a bunch of weight. a technique also known as the Bastion Booger maybe that counts more as part or the "fat guys shoving their balls and/or rear end in someone's face panic" X JAKK fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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I always thought Vince was the one who wanted goldust to get implants lol
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AlmightyBob posted:I always thought Vince was the one who wanted goldust to get implants lol Nope. In a rare, rare display of Vince being reasonable, he turned down Dustin's offer.
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Imagine having an idea so batshit crazy that Vince McMahon has to tell you to take it down a notch
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Prof. Crocodile posted:Imagine having an idea so batshit crazy that Vince McMahon has to tell you to take it down a notch has happened more often than you think lol
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:has happened more often than you think lol I would love an effortpost on this topic, if any of the loremasters ITT are up to it.
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Prof. Crocodile posted:I would love an effortpost on this topic, if any of the loremasters ITT are up to it. its not an effort post but vince and ultimate warrior exchanged letters over a contract dispute that ultimately led to warrior being fired and vince comes off as the sane and rational person in the face of warriors insane demands lol
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The stage play 'Love Letters' except it's Vince's correspondence with the Ultimate Warrior.
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Prof. Crocodile posted:I would love an effortpost on this topic, if any of the loremasters ITT are up to it. The one story that comes to mind is that of John Heidenreich. Heidenreich looked like a cross between Ken Shamrock and the Frankenstein Monster. A tall, lanky, deranged-looking guy dressed as an MMA fighter. He's probably worth a one-post deep dive write-up as his short career has included: - Reading poetry to Michael Cole in a way that simulated rape. - Being comedically afraid of caskets. - Walking around with a giant candy bar. - Telling a fellow wrestler, "I like what you do to babies," in what was one of the most homoerotic moments in wrestling. - Winning the tag titles as the newest member of Legion of Doom. Anyway, when the writers' room was trying to come up with a gimmick for this crazy-looking, giant blond man, one guy came up with quite the idea. The idea was that Heidenreich was a nazi soldier from WWII who was frozen and was just thawed out. The guy started doing the salute and goose-stepped around the office, thinking like he was a genius. Vince stared at the writer, quietly stood up, left the room, and never returned.
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There's the story of when the Ultimate Warrior presented DESTRUCITY to Vince and company when he returned for WM12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOv2ewcrFDA Doesn't really cover Vince's reaction, though
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Isn't there also a story that in the 90s they gave this guy some kind of robot/cyborg type gimmick with a dumb costume, the guy gets in the ring to give a demo or whatever and Vince just starts yelling at the guy to dance?
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I don't know why they make so many weird gimmicks. The most popular ones are always Florida man, southerner with cool truck, fat guy, evil European, or NY/LA rear end in a top hat.
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I'm sure Dustin was probably hosed up when he suggested that because he started getting addicted to pain killers and booze in 1996 after an injury.
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comedy wrestlers loving rule give me more santino marella
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Mulaney Power Move posted:There's the story of when the Ultimate Warrior presented DESTRUCITY to Vince and company when he returned for WM12: I dream that there is a warehouse full of unsold Warrior comic books somewhere in Stanford, CT.
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Gavok posted:The one story that comes to mind is that of John Heidenreich. Heidenreich looked like a cross between Ken Shamrock and the Frankenstein Monster. A tall, lanky, deranged-looking guy dressed as an MMA fighter. He's probably worth a one-post deep dive write-up as his short career has included: IIRC, the pitch also had the Nazi character being managed by Paul Heyman, who is not only Jewish, but whose mother survived the Holocaust.
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Szyznyk posted:I dream that there is a warehouse full of unsold Warrior comic books somewhere in Stanford, CT. I fully believe there is still a cardboard box full of unsold J.O.B Squad t-shirts in Al Snow's garage.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:I'm sure Dustin was probably hosed up when he suggested that because he started getting addicted to pain killers and booze in 1996 after an injury. dustin was really hosed up but his lowest point has to be when he was slumming in TNA dressed like a gimp
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warrior wanted vince to buy one million dollars worth of unsold ultimate warrior comics to make up for a dispute and vince told him to gently caress off
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:warrior wanted vince to buy one million dollars worth of unsold ultimate warrior comics to make up for a dispute and vince told him to gently caress off lol
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:its not an effort post but vince and ultimate warrior exchanged letters over a contract dispute that ultimately led to warrior being fired and vince comes off as the sane and rational person in the face of warriors insane demands lol didn't Vince end up bringing him back for a wrestlemania, but because it was last second and Vince was desperate warrior made him pay like half a million?
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:dustin was really hosed up but his lowest point has to be when he was slumming in TNA dressed like a gimp If you mention that point in his life to him on Twitter it's an instant block.
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AlmightyBob posted:didn't Vince end up bringing him back for a wrestlemania, but because it was last second and Vince was desperate warrior made him pay like half a million? i think that was jeff jarret whose contract expired and he was going to wcw but he was still booked to wrestle a wwf even so shook vince down for half a million dollars to get him to wrestle vince paid him back later by firing him on live television after the wcw buyout. it might have also been warrior i dont think its the first time this happened to vince lol
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Vandar posted:If you mention that point in his life to him on Twitter it's an instant block. i dont blame him
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Prof. Crocodile posted:I would love an effortpost on this topic, if any of the loremasters ITT are up to it. Unfortunately, that's outside my area of expertise, so others will have to pick up my slack.
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Vandar posted:If you mention that point in his life to him on Twitter it's an instant block. https://twitter.com/dustinrhodes/status/1351266182163267587?s=20 I swear the original version of the tweet ended with "spite is a hell of a motivator" He was putting on some pretty good matches at 51 too.
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dustin rhodes was always an underrated wrestler who had a lot of potential he was just saddled with a gimmick that had overstayed its welcome and had a lot of personal demons he needed to overcome before he could start putting on great matches
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AlmightyBob posted:didn't Vince end up bringing him back for a wrestlemania, but because it was last second and Vince was desperate warrior made him pay like half a million? Well, the first time he was fired it was because he made Vince pay him more on the day of the show or he wouldn't do his match. I think it was Summer Slam. It was a tag match with Hogan vs. Sgt. Slaughter and Iron Sheik. According to Slaughter, Hogan's solution was to have Sheik break his leg but Vince paid in then fired him after the show.
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Iron sheik is hilarious, I'll bet it was his idea.
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:i think that was jeff jarret whose contract expired and he was going to wcw but he was still booked to wrestle a wwf even so shook vince down for half a million dollars to get him to wrestle vince paid him back later by firing him on live television after the wcw buyout. it might have also been warrior i dont think its the first time this happened to vince lol The Jeff Jarrett thing was because he had either the ic or euro belt, and wasn't under contract anymore. He knew Vince would give him the payday so he wouldn't show up in WCW with the belt similar to what happened to the women's championship.
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