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New code I just saw on Prydwen: 2T7BP4JVEBT7 5k Credits, 3x Adventure Log, 2x Condensed Aether, 3x Cosmic Fried Rice
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Saving for Kafka, the MC's canonical first love.
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Apr 30, 2023 13:10
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also yeah there's two separate tracks of F2P 5* lightcones and 5* lightcones also arent nearly as strogn relative to 4* lightcones as 5* weapons are to 4* weapons in genshin. id only recommend pulling for lightcones if you feel like burning your wishes to make a character like 5% stronger.
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Apr 30, 2023 13:11
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Aight, cool, save for the future it is.
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Apr 30, 2023 13:44
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account level 21 unlock stuff the mirror people have absolutely rancid vibes. on the other hand it looks like their function is to provide one-off challenge fights, which is welcome the mc's blithe reaction to finding out they've been parasitized by yet another eldritch horror is great though 
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Apr 30, 2023 13:52
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i guess we're just at the basic characters atm, but it looks to me like the extra eidolons buffs for extra copies of characters are pretty bland atm. Its all just extra damage here and extra target there. I guess further down the road like in genshin, we have some units with more elaborate eidolon brnaches where you like HAVE to have e6 for them to be OP.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:08
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The free 10 wishes blessed me with Seele, so now I can live the dream of her and Bronya deleting all of my skill points to destroy the world. Way luckier start than Genshin was, this game clearly loves me and wants me to play it. And I love it back. Wish relics didn't exist though!
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Apr 30, 2023 14:10
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GateOfD posted:i guess we're just at the basic characters atm, but it looks to me like the extra eidolons buffs for extra copies of characters are pretty bland atm. Its all just extra damage here and extra target there. Bronya gets a follow-up attack iirc, which seems like it could be meaningful for like The Elation purposes or something.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:14
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QQ's eidolons give her a followup attack that doubles her output at c4 and fixes the skill point problem at c6. She also gets energy regen per draw at c2.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:18
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I have no idea who QQ is.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:23
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qingque probably
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Apr 30, 2023 14:24
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GateOfD posted:i guess we're just at the basic characters atm, but it looks to me like the extra eidolons buffs for extra copies of characters are pretty bland atm. Its all just extra damage here and extra target there. eh, tbh this game just seems kind of designed for eidolons to be less impactful than genshin overall even the launch constellations in genshin were more impactful than most of this game's there are some good eidolons still but, while they could easily prove me wrong, they dont seem that interested in making characters eidolon locked or anything
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Apr 30, 2023 14:26
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there's no elemental synergy atm like genshin (yet), but there's some neat combinations like how YanQing's thing is that he gets a nice crit buff, but loses it when he gets hit. But if you shield him with March, as long as he doesn't suffer real HP damage from getting hit, he still keeps his buff.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:40
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Speaking of eidolons... The free 10 pulls got me e1 Clara on the Seele banner. I really would have preferred someone new, but I guess I'm prepped for Kafka's banner... Wonder how far I can go with Kafka/Serval/Tingyun as the lightning ladies crew.
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Apr 30, 2023 14:53
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MoonCrab posted:For the lurkers who feel bad about seeing people with multiple 5s: I've got nothing but the guaranteed 5 from the newbie banner and I'm not even remotely close to any pity. There, expectations normalized. You'r welcome.... Same.
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Apr 30, 2023 15:00
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Figured I might do another one of those Expy blurb things now that I'm finally clear of work and not watching hockey every night. Seele is based in large part on the character of Seele Vollerei from Honkai Impact 3rd and her relationship with Bronya carries over from that universe as well with some differences, the most obvious of which visually is that they are both aged up quite a bit. For one Seele's base character in Honkai 3rd is that of an extremely timid weak willed orphan girl who has trouble standing up for herself. Bronya on the other hand is the opposite and tough as nails coming from a lifetime of hardship and assasinations. After being brought to Cocolia's orphanage Seele quickly developed an intense sisterlike adoration of Bronya after she protected her from the main bully in the orphanage, a girl named Sin Mal (who you know is a bad girl, but also a bit character since her name is Sin Mal and she's one of the very few female characters in the entire franchise to not be all glammed up and has shark teeth and dresses rather drab too) causing Sin to develop a one sided grudge against the two. This culminates in Sin pushing Bronya down the stairs of the orphanage and breaking her legs in the process, leading to her current in game appearance of having artificial prosthetic legs, though Bronya essentially allows this to happen and is called out on it by Cocolia. Eventually Seele would be kidnapped to try to ransom some money out of Cocolia, who would send Bronya alone to deal with the kidnappers resulting in her killing all of them including several right in front of Seele who typically doesn't like violence and gets freaked out by it. Here's where things get kind of interesting though as this sensation of violence in front of her leads to awareness in Seele that she has a dormant personality/entity in her that the script refers to as Veliona that likes what it sees. This version of Seele is essentially the polar opposite of Seele (alternate color schemes involving red as opposed to blue) and extremely violent, cruel, vengeful and sadistic, but also extremely protective of her host body Seele to the point where despite taunting her a lot she's ultimately subservient in a sense to Seele's will and wants to be unleashed to do the things Seele can't. So when Sin comes around a second time trying to bully Seele while Bronya isn't around it does not go well for the former and we see precisely what she is capable of as Seele lets her take over her body to deal with things so Bronya won't eventually have to again. Anyway since I covered it already in the Bronya summary, eventually Seele would take the Quantum realm test in place of Bronya and get trapped there, leading to Bronya's motivation for a good chunk of the early main story to try to find a way to get her back out of there resulting in a really cool trio of climax scenes for both characters and Seele finally accepting the other side of her personality to help them both escape so they can fulfill their promise of visiting the ocean together. IMO Seele is based in large part on the character of Hotaru Tomoe/Sailor Saturn from the Shojo classic Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon. Aside from sharing a similar hairstyle, they are both extremely weak willed sickly looking girls who develop a strong friendship with a much stronger willed personality character their age (Chibi-Usa in her case) and have death motifs, wield scythes in combat and have a hidden far more sadistic personality/entity dormant within them that comes out under extreme duress such as being bullied or having her friends threatened. Her name is based on Mihoyo's founding people's love of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which Honkai Impact 3rd was heavily influenced by. IMO Seele in Star Rail is also a combination of Seele Vollerei and Veliona that takes them somewhere to the middle of their extreme opposite personalities, with references to Veliona in how Seele's eyes glow red when she uses her ultimate. Also if I had to guess, her tendency to phase in and out of reality is in reference to her relationship with the quantum realm in Honkai 3rd and spending several years there. All incarnations of the character share the same voice actress in Japanese Mai Nakahara. And that's plenty for now.  e: Minor trivia, the song Cyberangel in the 2nd video is sung by Bronya's chinese VA who as far as I can tell is a popular Bilibili singer/personality, who has a gimmick of only appearing as an avatar or having her face covered in public. I don't think anybody has ever actually seen her face. Hanser voices Silver Wolf in CN, but apparently did not feel she could pull off the voice for Bronya Rand, apologizing to fans in China. Kale fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Apr 30, 2023 |
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I've got Bronya, Seele, and Yanqing. Kind of annoyed to get 2 Hunts, but I guess with the element system more variety is always good, and it's one of better classes for being good bosskillers.
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Apr 30, 2023 15:07
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hell yea. Got the 'In the Night' Stelle light cone & a 4* character Hook (new for me) in the same draw on the light cone banner. (took only 20tickets in total)
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Apr 30, 2023 15:09
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What is it about Honkai Impact that makes people want to write unprompted walls of text about stuff most players of the other game will never care about? Like, I guess it's fine and not off-topic or anything, but if we wanted to play Honkai Impact we'd play Honkai Impact, and people who already have won't need that info, so who is the target audience for these posts?
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Apr 30, 2023 15:10
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Got the 5 star Preservation LC from the free tenner they gave us, pretty happy since I wanted it for Pres MC anyways, and now I don't have to pick up the one from the BP.
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Clarste posted:What is it about Honkai Impact that makes people want to write unprompted walls of text about stuff most players of the other game will never care about? Like, I guess it's fine and not off-topic or anything, but if we wanted to play Honkai Impact we'd play Honkai Impact, and people who already have won't need that info, so who is the target audience for these posts?
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Apr 30, 2023 15:17
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Clarste posted:What is it about Honkai Impact that makes people want to write unprompted walls of text about stuff most players of the other game will never care about? Like, I guess it's fine and not off-topic or anything, but if we wanted to play Honkai Impact we'd play Honkai Impact, and people who already have won't need that info, so who is the target audience for these posts? Some people seemed intrigued, other do not. I feel like I've said this dozens of times already, but the absolute beauty of the internet is that nobody is obligated to read things they don't want too. One could just as easily ask the question what is about large posts that seems to grievously offend the sensibilities of some, but not of others. If a couple people hadn't responded to my last one and we'd had a bit of a dialogue and some corrections were noted that had me learning some things on my own in the process, I wouldn't be doing any more of these. So like why the chippiness? If it's so brutal for a majority of people to have to scroll past a spoilered post out of dozens of others and people are so offended by it en masse I simply won't do anymore as it actually does take a bit of time and compilation to go over it and embed some links and stuff. Frankly though Endorph in particular getting uproariously upset at half the things I post and concerning themselves with it is gonna happen anyway though so..... If people want to set a thread rule about what the absolute maximum length of a post is allowed to be and try to enforce that everybody stick to their preferred posting format I say go for it.
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Endorph posted:quick summaries could be interesting but yeah uhh surely theres a quicker way of explaining this stuff dude Part of why it's so long is that there's technically two games to cover, both of which with a long story and a constant stream of events since these games have their roots in mobile gacha layouts. Not exactly easy to sum stuff up when there's now a third game featuring the same characters in yet another alternate universe (Not counting Genshin which already has some of the same characters appearing under different identities. Which would make this the fourth game technically.) that is riffing on the past games and has franchise wide myth arc plot threads in ways that are relevant to past games. At some point they're going to have to either simplify things or drop the old characters or all the plot references are going to make even the lore nerds heads explode. Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Apr 30, 2023 |
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Apr 30, 2023 15:27
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Or you could just not care if you're missing references that other people will get and enjoy this game on its own terms.
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Apr 30, 2023 15:30
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Clarste posted:Or you could just not care if you're missing references that other people will get and enjoy this game on its own terms. Imagine being the sort of person who is mad someone wants to share information with you. Now imagine that those people sharing info simply do not give a gently caress, since you can scroll past it.
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Apr 30, 2023 15:31
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'The Faint Star' sidequest was really neat. Told Rocky the truth, and he's gonna try to go off to find her. For a little sidequest in the beginning, had a lot of oomph to it. What happens if you pick the lie?
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Apr 30, 2023 15:33
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Archonex posted:Imagine being the sort of person who is mad someone wants to share information with you. Now imagine that those people sharing info simply do not give a gently caress, since you can scroll past it. I was responding to you saying they would have to simplify things. Anyway I'm not mad, I'm just making the apparently true observation that Honkai Impact fans have broken brains causing them to see everything like a paranoiac's conspiracy board. The connections are just for fun, they don't actually matter. The writers do not need to stop making connections just so you can understand them easier.
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Apr 30, 2023 15:35
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Who is Kafka and why should I care. Now that I lost the 50/50 this banner I guess I should decide who to go for before I keep pulling. Team: Dan Heng (DPS), Bronya (make Dan Heng go brrrrr), Bailu (heals), March (shields) I just got Fire MC so I think she’ll replace March because I don’t think I need 2 heal/shield supports. But I also just pulled Gerard so if I really needed shields I’d replace March/MC with him. I was hoping to replace Dan Heng with a 5* main dps. E: but I also know from Genshin and other games that support characters are almost always better to go for than the carry of the week
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Boris Galerkin posted:Who is Kafka and why should I care.
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She has a katana and guns and is probably violently insane.
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Clarste posted:I was responding to you saying they would have to simplify things. Anyway I'm not mad, I'm just making the apparently true observation that Honkai Impact fans have broken brains causing them to see everything like a paranoiac's conspiracy board. The connections are just for fun, they don't actually matter. The writers do not need to stop making connections just so you can understand them easier. to be fair this sort of thing isn't limited to honkai. any time there's even a hint of connection between two different games there will be someone with a pinboard and string connecting invisible dots see: final fantasy xiv
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Wall-of-text loreposting/theoryposting is interesting to read on occasion since it's nothing I would ever intentionally seek out otherwise, as I don't play any other Honkai games. Also it's really hard to not just spend all these free gold tickets on the current banner, but I definitely want mob boss and hacker/gamer girl who are supposedly in the next banner :\
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Apr 30, 2023 15:43
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don't care about impact. but i be on the lookout for some genshin links
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Clarste posted:What is it about Honkai Impact that makes people want to write unprompted walls of text about stuff most players of the other game will never care about? Like, I guess it's fine and not off-topic or anything, but if we wanted to play Honkai Impact we'd play Honkai Impact, and people who already have won't need that info, so who is the target audience for these posts? I mean, you say "people", but I'm pretty sure it's just the same person every time.
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Clarste posted:I was responding to you saying they would have to simplify things. Anyway I'm not mad, I'm just making the apparently true observation that Honkai Impact fans have broken brains causing them to see everything like a paranoiac's conspiracy board. The connections are just for fun, they don't actually matter. The writers do not need to stop making connections just so you can understand them easier. My dude, the selling point of the plot of the game literally references the overall myth arc of the franchise since early on in Honkai Impact 3's development when we got a look at the world outside of the game world that things took place in. Heck, the Star Rail is literally a reference to a massive plot point of where all the AU characters and crossover characters went to after their events ended. Some references and explanations may end up occurring. Being upset that this is going to lead to people having to post the occasional huge wall of text explaining stuff is kind of like going into RPG with a massive number of relevant sequels and wondering why people keep talking about the plot of past games. It's not that they're posting paranoid screeds, it's that you don't give a poo poo and want to talk about how much it bothers you that people are talking about the plot points of the games everyone is playing. Bland posted:I mean, you say "people", but I'm pretty sure it's just the same person every time. Going off of the Genshin thread it's been multiple people, myself one of them when explaining stuff some folks asked about. We had people screeching about it back then too, and it was just as inane of a complaint as it was then. Archonex fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 30, 2023 |
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Kafka is who I am saving up for because I love complete psychopaths and I may or may not have realized until this morning that we have Fuel as a Fragile Resin equivalent to restore traiblazing power..that would've been handy to blow past the time gates 
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Wait are people upset because they think I was trying to drive across some absolute connection between the two games? Don't know what to say to that, but I was literally just noting some similarities and differences between the characters and their originators in 3rd. Now I'm wondering if anybody has ever heard of Osamu Tezuka's star system which I think is what's actually going on here and what Hoyo's plan is for these games and recurring characters.Archonex posted:Going off of the Genshin thread it's been multiple people, myself one of them when explaining stuff some folks asked about. We had people screeching about it back then too, and it was just as inane of a complaint as it was then. Kale fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 30, 2023 |
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Archonex posted:My dude, the selling point of the plot of the game literally references the overall myth arc of the franchise since early on in Honkai Impact 3's development when we got a look at the world outside of the game world that things took place in. Heck, the Star Rail is literally a reference to a massive plot point of where all the AU characters and crossover characters went to after their events ended. And yet, it is being marketed to and written for people who know nothing of Honkai Impact. Can HI fans enjoy it on a deeper level? Possibly! That doesn't mean it matters.
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Clarste posted:I was responding to you saying they would have to simplify things. Anyway I'm not mad, I'm just making the apparently true observation that Honkai Impact fans have broken brains causing them to see everything like a paranoiac's conspiracy board. The connections are just for fun, they don't actually matter. The writers do not need to stop making connections just so you can understand them easier. Tbh that's just what liking lore in Mihoyo games does. Honkai doesn't even the most insane conspiracy boards compared to Genshin which is all about gnosticism and a shitload of references to ancient philosophy and stuff like color theory. 
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