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Orv posted:It’s made by Daedalic who has made a bunch of adventure games, none of them particularly good. I think it’s less likely an executive play like everyone assumes and just a really bad choice of passion project. I was about to fight you but then I remembered I was thinking of Wadjet Games not Daedalic, though I did like the Deponia series.
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Man, what a way for Arkane to go after delivering Dishonored and Prey.
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Pylons posted:I'm sad about Arkane. They used to be my favorite studio but I don't think they're ever going to release something the quality of Dishonored/Dishonored 2/Prey again. Deathloop was GOTY
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The protagonist in fc5 deciding to blow up a perfectly fine missile silo base after liberating it from the bad guys was whack
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Orv posted:Deathloop was GOTY
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SirSamVimes posted:I tried the demo of Darkest Dungeon 2 and spent way too long riding the carriage around with only one combat encounter to break it up before I gave up on the game. Darkest Dungeon 1 already had terrible pacing issues. Every combat encounter felt like a boss fight in length. So I was really hoping the sequel would be better about pacing.
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AngryBooch posted:Yeah it's looking like Redfall is exactly what I feared would happen. It's kinda even worst than that in this case, because Redfall is not a live service game, it just straight up sucks really bad all on its own.
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It all went wrong when they never made Dark Messiah 2 Although jesus christ I forgot just how long you spend on Spiderorc Island
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The 7th Guest posted:Alright, so May's just about here, here's what's due this month: Boomer shooters aren't my thing but Boltgun does look fun and I hope it turns out well, one I'll keep an eye on. The 7th Guest posted:
I don't understand this one either and I wish a new or remastered Battle for Middle Earth will get made.
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PlushCow posted:I don't understand this one either and I wish a new or remastered Battle for Middle Earth will get made.  https://www.moddb.com/news/age-of-the-ring-version-80 & https://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=1006906&st=0&p=10096241&#entry10096241 The gollum game from how I understand it, is basically Thief but you play as Gollum.
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I said come in! posted:The gollum game from how I understand it, is basically Thief but you play as Gollum.
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anilEhilated posted:Don't get my hopes up. How long has it been since a proper high-profile stealth'em'up? Don't worry, there is no way this game is going to be good. There's been no hype or marketing.
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It's not a Thief game unless I can open all the drawers on a dresser in a desperate hunt for a measly few coins.
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zoux posted:I wonder if in like 200 years future gamers won't know where the green/blue/purple/orange item hierarchy even comes from. I still don't know what it is, and I play these games. So when something green drops, I'm like... is that good? I actually need to alt-tab out and check to see if green is better than gold or purple, etc. I'm not even new at this, I played Diablo 1 & 2 people! Why is this so hard!?
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Every once and a while a game tries to mix up the rarity colors and these villains should be censured at the highest levels.
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Serephina posted:I still don't know what it is, and I play these games. So when something green drops, I'm like... is that good? I actually need to alt-tab out and check to see if green is better than gold or purple, etc. I'm not even new at this, I played Diablo 1 & 2 people! Why is this so hard!? I can never remember orange and purple and which is the better one. Green and blue I remember because those are the "fill your empty holes" ones early on and then you ignore them Orv posted:Every once in a while a game tries to mix up the rarity colors and these villains should be censured at the highest levels. Oh so that DOES happen and it's not just my imagination? Whew.
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Beloved devs spending years and years on a genre that's fallen out of favor by the release date is a cycle that's happened before but I feel like this time around it's especially bad. Destiny-heads are still playing Destiny for their fix, and people who hate the Destiny model HATE the Destiny model.Orv posted:Every once and a while a game tries to mix up the rarity colors and these villains should be censured at the highest levels. Everyone rolls their eyes when a game labels their rarities with the same old colors, but they basically have to or else it'd annoy everyone that's used to it. There's no win. Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 1, 2023 |
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Pigbuster posted:Beloved devs spending years and years on a genre that's fallen out of favor by the release date is a cycle that's happened before but I feel like this time around it's especially bad. Destiny-heads are still playing Destiny for their fix, and people who hate the Destiny model HATE the Destiny model. Nobody is really making Destiny-alikes though? Like yeah a lot of games have gear score as a fundamental property but Destiny didn’t invent that. Redfall is also just a complete game and in no way an MMO. If you really want to make a Destiny-like game you have to pour your heart and soul into making the same mistakes over and over again. Pigbuster posted:Everyone rolls their eyes when a game labels their rarities with the same old colors, but they basically have to or else it'd annoy everyone that's used to it. There's no win. I’ve never once seen someone go “oh boy blue rare gear again, greaaaat” but people always mess it up when a dev switches the colors around. Not that there’s no value in changing things but that’s such a widely understood language why would you change that? Orv fucked around with this message at 18:15 on May 1, 2023 |
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Orv posted:Nobody is really making Destiny-alikes though? Like yeah a lot of games have gear score as a fundamental property but Destiny didn’t invent that. Redfall is also just a complete game and in no way an MMO. If you really want to make a Destiny-like game you have to pour your heart and soul into making the same mistakes over and over again. From the outside it's sure seemed like it in the past year or two though. Avengers, Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad, Redfall, and this is just the stuff I've noticed as a non-loot shooter player, especially with all of them smacking of "had GaaS stripped out desperately"
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Orv posted:Every once and a while a game tries to mix up the rarity colors and these villains should be censured at the highest levels. The rarity scale should use a frequency spectrum instead so that top-tier items cause the neighbour's dog to bark uncontrollably every time you pop an end-game boss.
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secretly best girl posted:From the outside it's sure seemed like it in the past year or two though. Avengers, Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad, Redfall, and this is just the stuff I've noticed as a non-loot shooter player, especially with all of them smacking of "had GaaS stripped out desperately" Avengers for sure but I don’t think every game with loot and loot scores is a Destiny game by default but that might be splitting hairs I guess. Blattdorf posted:The rarity scale should use a frequency spectrum instead so that top-tier items cause the neighbour's dog to bark uncontrollably every time you pop an end-game boss. 
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Blattdorf posted:The rarity scale should use a frequency spectrum instead so that top-tier items cause the neighbour's dog to bark uncontrollably every time you pop an end-game boss. My childhood dog would lose his loving poo poo at the sound gems made in Diablo 2.
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Sab669 posted:My childhood dog would lose his loving poo poo at the sound gems made in Diablo 2. skull clop
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You're stealing my bit!  jk the more people play AOTR the better
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Mordja posted:You're stealing my bit! I think it was you that told me about this to begin with. 
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I said come in! posted:Darkest Dungeon 1 already had terrible pacing issues. Every combat encounter felt like a boss fight in length. So I was really hoping the sequel would be better about pacing. As someone who found DD1 too grindy and slow, DD2's changes work for me. It streamlines the dungeons down to branching paths and makes each encounter more meaningful rather than being plastered in trash fights and the occasional tough encounter. Hell, the game has a turn limit on ambush encounters so that it doesn't drag out and incentivizes you to smash faster to get loot. You'll find like 7 fights on average, and you'll be putting effort trying to work out how to not get completely wasted. Outside of the intro map, the cart segments really aren't that long. Frequently shorter than the walks (and requisite backtracking) through empty hallways and rooms of DD1. You can equate the random loot from running things over to the occasional bag in the hallway with items, except this time that random first-aid salve might actually save your run. At the very least, the status tokens push the system to relying less on percentages and the new relationships lets you watch your team of miserable, irritable jerks form weird love/friendship/jealousy triangles that either save the day or play a part in the downfall of the run. Still can't help but remember an early run where everyone ended up hating one another early on and nearly party wiped on an end of section boss fight. Dismas held on as the only survivor purely out of spite, just so he could leave the encounter alive to remark it was a clean job. Or the run saved twice by the Occultist in a romance with both other guys in the team as our Hellion just kinda stayed mildly miffed at everyone no matter how many boxing matches or dart throwing contests were had. I've got complaints about the game, but the pacing isn't one of them. It's mostly in the raw difficulty and how you couldn't opt out of a subclass even if you didn't have the skills to make it work. That and the second boss's mechanics just kinda don't work, in favor of just being a damage/healing race. Those might've been fixed by now, haven't played it in months.
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secretly best girl posted:From the outside it's sure seemed like it in the past year or two though. Avengers, Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad, Redfall, and this is just the stuff I've noticed as a non-loot shooter player, especially with all of them smacking of "had GaaS stripped out desperately" if we're talking looter shooters specifically, it got really popular after borderlands made it work in first person, but smacking things and getting loot is old and has literally always been around destiny's big contribution was a useless but pretty inventory menu
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destiny's innovation was the insanity of implementing cursors in console game UIs
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Yeah Destiny was just the first non-MMO thing (to my knowledge?) that surfaced an idea of “this is how powerful your gear is overall” because at the end of the day Destiny is still just an ARPG shooter. The UI thing is that UX designers in games appear to be laboring under some kind of curse, across everyone in the job, where literally none of them have had a good idea despite spending entire careers doing it.
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The 7th Guest posted:the guy seems a little too obsessed with ludonarrative dissonance or w/e, but i'll sum up some of the concerns from the review: Nothing about this really surprises me. If I recall correctly, in one interview the devs revealed there was no respeccing, which sounds mad when you can play the game solo but there’s multiplayer-focused skills you can burn points on. But I guess that’s the sort of game Redfall is.
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I can see myself playing for like an hour or two tonight on Gamepass and then uninstalling. There's too much great stuff coming out this month and next month to want to give Redfall a chance really. And even that is generous, but i'm morbidly curious.
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I said come in! posted:I can see myself playing for like an hour or two tonight on Gamepass and then uninstalling. There's too much great stuff coming out this month and next month to want to give Redfall a chance really. And even that is generous, but i'm morbidly curious. Can you imagine launching a game within two weeks of Tears of the Kingdom??? Sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder
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I said come in! posted:I can see myself playing for like an hour or two tonight on Gamepass and then uninstalling. There's too much great stuff coming out this month and next month to want to give Redfall a chance really. And even that is generous, but i'm morbidly curious. Pretty much where I'm at. Even if the game weren't coming in all  , based on what we know and have seen, it flat out isn't the sort of game I'm interested in. I'll be checking it out merely from idle curiosity. If it weren't for gamepass, I'd not be going anywhere near it.Edit: I hope they make another immsim before inevitable industry churn means they are no longer capable of doing so competently (assuming we haven't already passed that point). magimix fucked around with this message at 19:27 on May 1, 2023 |
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