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I thought I was doing alright with the ending and then the credits song hit me hard gently caress dude
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I’ve been moving slowly through the DLC. Are you able to go back and build ether masts in earlier areas to make it easier to find all of the things? I tend to spend a lot of time messing around and exploring so I’m over-leveled but also I’m on hard so it still isn’t very easy to beat UM’s and such.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I’ve been moving slowly through the DLC. Are you able to go back and build ether masts in earlier areas to make it easier to find all of the things? Ether masts in earlier areas are gated behind some movement skills, so yes every area has one but they're not necessarily accessible depending on how much you advanced the story. Related, a faded question mark means the thing it's pointing at: a) it's underground/aboveground and you're looking at the wrong map b) it's the spawn location for a UM but it's the wrong weather/time of the day/phase of the moon/planetary alignment c) something will appear here once you advance the story but there's nothing right now it's extremely obvious if case a is happening
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May 1, 2023 12:53
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finished the entire blade trilogy over the past 4 months. I enjoyed the poo poo out of it. Nintendo needs to use some of that mario money and relicense gears 
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May 1, 2023 13:09
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TehRedWheelbarrow posted:finished the entire blade trilogy over the past 4 months. I enjoyed the poo poo out of it. They'd probably have an easier time getting Saga since Square are absolute bastards when it comes to their properties.
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May 1, 2023 13:30
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Darth Nat posted:They'd probably have an easier time getting Saga since Square are absolute bastards when it comes to their properties. Well, except for Front Mission
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Darth Nat posted:They'd probably have an easier time getting Saga since Square are absolute bastards when it comes to their properties. give square a 1 of 1 nft of mario or something. (yeah i forgot square was in the middle of that namco/squeenix licensing debacle)
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*Targets a unique enemy* A: We will know their name.  I'm more a fan of Matthew's RNG to keep skills than I expected. It's real fun when it happens multiple times in a row and I just uppercut dodge tank a UM for like 10 seconds straight. Alxprit posted:Glimmer is basically neo Mythra too, so the content just doesn't stop Glimmer is Teenage Mythra with Pyra's hair color. Which is fine because Mythra was cool while Pyra... existed. Natural 20 posted:I would if I had any of the goddamn upgrade materials. The next Xenoblade game needs to have a collectopedia that shows where the gently caress you found something and then let you select it as an item of interest that shows up on your minimap, make it an upgrade in the early-mid game if needed, but goddamn. I think XCX had something to that effect but it's been a long time since I played so I might be mistaken. I didn't care as much in XC3 proper because I just made the ferronis hulks puke out a billion collectables but actually hunting stuff down gets real annoying real fast.
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thanks whomever linked that big ol soundtrack box even if i only found it the day after preorders ended, it was sold out everywhere but managed to get one ordered in japan today. i dont even have a cd player anymore, but monolithsoft can take my money if they keep doing whatever they did with the series so far i was going to put a link but the site had 7 copies left according to their page at 6am EST and they all gone now.
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Takoluka posted:Finished it just now. I loved it. And I also loved that a major Xenosaga character is explicitly mentioned by name. Nina posted:Vector Industries and Philadelphia class cruisers also mentioned. That section is so dense with that stuff it's awesome I haven't played any of the XBC games but I am a lifelong Xenosaga fan. Can you elaborate on what the new stuff shows as it pertains to Xenosaga?
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NikkolasKing posted:I haven't played any of the XBC games but I am a lifelong Xenosaga fan. Can you elaborate on what the new stuff shows as it pertains to Xenosaga? Dmitri Yuriev does a radio interview, vector industries and philadelphia cruisers and exodus project all make references e: sorry my saga references suck but i do distinctly remember that the eldridge was part of the exodus project and the big ol ship at the beginning of gears TehRedWheelbarrow fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 1, 2023 |
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NikkolasKing posted:I haven't played any of the XBC games but I am a lifelong Xenosaga fan. Can you elaborate on what the new stuff shows as it pertains to Xenosaga? Xenogears spoilers: The radio broadcast mentions new "Philadelphia class cruisers" (same class as the Eldridge from 'gears) being sent out on long range colonization missions Xenosaga spoilers: The radio mentions a piece of "human rights legislation" implied to be the Species Preservation Act and mentions the Salvator Faction and councilman Dmitri Yuriev. (note that this doesn't line up with the timeline as that takes place 4000+ years after Lost Jerusalem disappears). The radio has a Vector Industries logo on it. At the end, once the worlds combine there's a light coming to it that some speculate is the Elsa. Xenoblade Chronicles X spoilers: Project Exodus is mentioned and dates line up with the launch of the White Whale
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I'm mostly taking back my complaints about the voice acting. Matthew is the best and Nikol is my adopted son. Na'el's - "Matthew... Always in fantasy land." Was a great line read.
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really wouldnt surprise me if there is a xeno version of perfect works in the mix and dude is just doing an endless iteration of boy meets girl and the power of friendship and just weaving a wtf storyline out of it while trying to hold the timeline in some kind of order. gears was supposed to be 5 or 6th in the series based on the original end credits
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May 1, 2023 18:33
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Microcline posted:Xenogears spoilers: The radio broadcast mentions new "Philadelphia class cruisers" (same class as the Eldridge from 'gears) being sent out on long range colonization missions I was cackling when I realized they were dropping all this heavy meta-lore stuff in a background radio broadcast as children play tag in the foreground. What an absolutely incredible decision.
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May 1, 2023 18:43
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yeah I had to keep pausing it to read the subtitles since i cant multitask for poo poo it was wild as gently caress.
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Microcline posted:Xenogears spoilers: The radio broadcast mentions new "Philadelphia class cruisers" (same class as the Eldridge from 'gears) being sent out on long range colonization missions RuBisCO posted:I was cackling when I realized they were dropping all this heavy meta-lore stuff in a background radio broadcast as children play tag in the foreground. What an absolutely incredible decision. Appreciate the answers. Thanks all. Although now it sounds like it was just "remember the thing." Like, if the ending was about all that, I'd be excited for the implications. Maybe it was hyping up something. But now it looks like just Xeno nerd trivia.
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NikkolasKing posted:Appreciate the answers. Thanks all. well.. yeah? trigger fans got cross at least, gears fans got panty shots and oblique references.
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NikkolasKing posted:Appreciate the answers. Thanks all. Yeah, it definitely was more of an easter egg for Xenonuts, especially given that all of it was really only accessible if you had cutscene subtitles turned on. It was nearly inaudible.
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NikkolasKing posted:Appreciate the answers. Thanks all. I mean it would be lame if the Xenoblade games just tied themselves down as pieces of worse games. It’s cool to reference them but Xenoblade is very much a huge step up from Gears and Saga in quality even if I like Gears and sorta like Saga 3. The references are cool but it’s more important for the game to tell its own story.
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DLC is all about dat fanservice for past games and they even tied in pre-blade games for the longtime fans.
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RevolverDivider posted:I mean it would be lame if the Xenoblade games just tied themselves down as pieces of worse games. It’s cool to reference them but Xenoblade is very much a huge step up from Gears and Saga in quality even if I like Gears and sorta like Saga 3. I wasn't looking for connections. I was thinking if the new DLC brought up Xenosaga in a big way, it could be pointing to some future projects or whatnot. But that dos not seem to be the case and so I return to my cherishing the forgotten Xeno franchise.
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I mean we still have Xeno games they’re called Xenoblade, they’re really good.
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NikkolasKing posted:I wasn't looking for connections. I was thinking if the new DLC brought up Xenosaga in a big way, it could be pointing to some future projects or whatnot. Well there's also a teaser post-credit scene, a blue object in the sky falling to earth. A lot of people think it might be KOS-MOS?
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I just want to say that Bioluminescent Bob is a real bastard.
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I have now beaten the dlc. I am still entirely unsure what on earth Matthew's accent is.
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Darth Nat posted:I just want to say that Bioluminescent Bob is a real bastard. He's bad for sure but I think the level 90 fight is worse.
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Mea Tulpa posted:He's bad for sure but I think the level 90 fight is worse. What is even the intended way there? Get the Agnian ferronis somewhat above his enrage, get the Kevesi ferronis below chain attack kill range (and probably trigger its enrage because it's at 90%), back to the Agnian ferronis to kill it the hard way, YIPPE, profit? Because I said gently caress it and cheesed them (kill one, die, kill the other). No tomb, but also no regrets. Meanwhile the lvl 100 UM has a 125 every half second damage aura. gently caress that poo poo, not even Glimmer has that output. DLC done, I'm moving on to other games until I replay the series again.
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Fantastic dlc, great ending, great franchise. It’s not quite on par with Torna but it’s doing something different so it’s totally fine.
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Supremezero posted:I have now beaten the dlc. Matthew's accent is a modern East London accent most commonly associated with the black community here. Anyway had fun with the DLC. I never really got Rex to the point that everyone else seems to have him, permanently sustaining double spinning edges but I did find a way to make him a delete button in chain attacks, so I hit the last boss for something like 10 million damage and blew his entire healthbar in one chain. I really liked Matthew, I thought he was a great protag and I wish they'd delved a little bit more into his relationship with A, but what can you do. Beyond that I just enjoyed his attitude for the entire game. Rex coming back and being Northern as gently caress was great fun as well, I enjoyed him a bunch and I really like the contrast in wrongs from the villains. Ultimately I feel that this DLC is probably the weakest of the four bits of Xenoblade I've messed with, 2, Torna, 3 and this. A lot of it, unsurprisingly went over my head because I didn't play 1 and I felt that the party's development across the game felt a little underbaked. I didn't really feel like Glimmer developed at all after she was recruited and she just spent the entire thing kinda *there*. Beyond that, I, unsurprisingly, think the lean in to checklist style completion systems for character progression is just really bad if you're like me and here to just tour through the main quests and side quests. I never unlocked any of Shulk's skills beyond his first tree because I never found enough tree unlock manuals, for example, so I felt pretty deprived of seeing my characters grow meaningfully stronger across the DLC's runtime. I wouldn't have minded AP for unlocking skills being purely on the collectapedia, but the skill tree unlocks should have been entirely within sidequest content if you're going to insist that they have some sort of condition on them.
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Natural 20 posted:Ultimately I feel that this DLC is probably the weakest of the four bits of Xenoblade I've messed with, 2, Torna, 3 and this. A lot of it, unsurprisingly went over my head because I didn't play 1 and I felt that the party's development across the game felt a little underbaked. I didn't really feel like Glimmer developed at all after she was recruited and she just spent the entire thing kinda *there*. this is a nod to characters like sharla and morag
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Poor Morag, the one party member that to my knowledge isn't referenced at all (other than being in The Photo). And she was my favorite in 2 despite doing nothing after she joins.
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I had a very strong impression of Morag and I really don't remember anything about the finer details of 2's plot so I choose to believe she's no more forgettable than anyone else in that cast. She hits all the right buttons for the exact sort of character I fall in love with.
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Darth Nat posted:Poor Morag, the one party member that to my knowledge isn't referenced at all (other than being in The Photo). And she was my favorite in 2 despite doing nothing after she joins. That's probably why she never got a mention, Morag as a person was great but she didn't really bring anything to the table other than being the adult in the room.
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Judge Tesla posted:That's probably why she never got a mention, Morag as a person was great but she didn't really bring anything to the table other than being the adult in the room. I don't feel like they would have left her out for that reason, especially since I don't think she's particularly disliked by anyone. After all, Sharla got a clone of herself in the DLC despite being probably the most disliked XC1 party member. I think it's probably more likely that she's just meant to have been a lifelong bachelor like Melia and never had a kid. I always liked her for being one of the only sensibly-dressed female characters in XC2.
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Chapter 4: is there a trick to the dad battle with Nikol and Glimmer? I'm at Level 40 and I still get shredded in seconds.
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Optimist Prime posted:Chapter 4: is there a trick to the dad battle with Nikol and Glimmer? I'm at Level 40 and I still get shredded in seconds. I guess unlock as many arts, gem and accessory slots for them as you can and dump your affinity into them with the respec kit if you have it. Start the fight as Nikol to pull their initial aggro then switch to Glimmer and stand as far away from him as you can manage while still being in range to heal. Then just use her arts whenever they come off cooldown to keep Nikol topped off and maybe keep the kevesi AOE heal reserved for when one of your characters loses a larger chunk of HP, and the talent art for a moment when you might need iframes. I don't think that it really matters which one you target first so I'd probably go with Shulk since IIRC his AOE bleed is what gave me the most trouble.
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i went after shulk the first time around and got utterly trounced, the second time i went after mr smiles and that worked a lot better
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Thanks, I'll try that later. I just picked up the affinity refund kit on the cave quest, so I'll take all the unlocks on Rex and transfer them to Nikol. TBH I figured it was one of those fights you were supposed to lose... 
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