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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Epic High Five posted:

In his most famous series, his two main characters in it post so good on social media they convince the world governments to radically change course over something I forget because the first part was so dumb. I wouldn't count on OSC to be on the right side of anything, if he doesn't like the internet it was probably because someone called him an idiot on it.

Yes, that's indeed... the exact thing I was referencing. I guess you could make the argument that he sees that as a good thing, but I didn't see either of those characters as sympathetic or decent in any way, so I'm pretty sure it was a slightly prescient critique of exactly what's happening.

On the other hand, he's a goddamn nut, so who knows?

EDIT: I think Ender's Game (not the trilogy, just the one book) makes a really good case for Death of the Author, because it's actually far more interesting if you consider it from the point of view that you know absolutely nothing about the author. He's also written books on the subject of how best to write speculative fiction, and ignoring the fact that's he's an abhorrent person, a lot of the advice is very good. For example, he concisely explains why Star Wars and Harry Potter are such empty rubbish most of the time, and at the same time, why Lord of the Rings is very good.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 04:11 on May 3, 2023

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



PT6A posted:

Yes, that's indeed... the exact thing I was referencing. I guess you could make the argument that he sees that as a good thing, but I didn't see either of those characters as sympathetic or decent in any way, so I'm pretty sure it was a slightly prescient critique of exactly what's happening.

On the other hand, he's a goddamn nut, so who knows?

I can't rule out you being right there, it has been a long while since I read it, but I definitely remember it as being just another thing his Mary Sue characters were amazing at to rescue him from a corner he'd written himself into.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Pretty sure he saw it as a good thing.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

PT6A posted:

As much as Orson Scott Card is a terrible loving bigot, dude had a fuckin' point about the Internet and its influence on politics.

I remember reading Ender's Game in high school and the whole idea of people registering (anonymous) accounts to debate politics online to affect change seemed so silly to me.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


The idea that two high school kids wouldn't get doxxed immediately once they became moderately famous is the unbelievable part. Well that and one of them winning the election for President of Earth based on forum posts.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Epic High Five posted:

I can't rule out you being right there, it has been a long while since I read it, but I definitely remember it as being just another thing his Mary Sue characters were amazing at to rescue him from a corner he'd written himself into.

And likewise, I think you could be right on this one. He strikes me as the sort of person who, like I said, has insight, but I'm not always sure he realizes what he's doing when he puts pen to paper. For example, considering he hates gay people, his books do have an odd amount of underage homoeroticism...

So, conversely, I think it's possible he wrote what should be reasonably interpreted as a caution against online political debate, while thinking it's actually quite wonderful.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Kwyndig posted:

The idea that two high school kids wouldn't get doxxed immediately once they became moderately famous is the unbelievable part. Well that and one of them winning the election for President of Earth based on forum posts.

A bright orange senile reality show has-been did it IRL, so I'm not really sure it's implausible at this point. Or, I should say, it seemed much less plausible when I read it than it does today.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I mean 2/3s of the Mass Effect trilogy is a human racist sending an untraceable email(e1: that people dont just loving ignore), and then the whole Citadel intel machine and its forensic accountants isnt able to dox the rich human that has a HQ around a blue/red star.

PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 3, 2023

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


PT6A posted:

. For example, considering he hates gay people, his books do have an odd amount of underage homoeroticism...
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I quit Card after realizing that every damned book had some form of child abuse, physical or mental.

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!
Yeah there's some trauma, but you don't get a John Newbery Medal by keeping everybody alive either.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Arsenic Lupin posted:

I quit Card after realizing that every damned book had some form of child abuse, physical or mental.

Explains why i relate to them so much :smith:

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001


That article is making pretty significant leaps of logic. It's equally likely that Google just never fixed their feature to permit one click setting your default browser to use the correct windows API and kept deploying their busted code, while Mozilla wrote their feature correctly from the start. Requiring default program setting changes to go through a specific API is good security design to prevent bad actors from hijacking the default.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Maybe. But that just renaming the chrome app fixes the issue... Is a bit odd.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Kwyndig posted:

The idea that two high school kids wouldn't get doxxed immediately once they became moderately famous is the unbelievable part. Well that and one of them winning the election for President of Earth based on forum posts.

Let's be honest. If dril ran for office he'd probably win just off his poo poo posts.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Kwyndig posted:

The idea that two high school kids wouldn't get doxxed immediately once they became moderately famous is the unbelievable part. Well that and one of them winning the election for President of Earth based on forum posts.

If the POTUS didn't have to meet a minimum age requirement I would absolutely be able to see some shitposting influencer win the election considering the kinds of people who usually end up in the general election.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/ai-generated-beer-commercial-contains-joyful-monstrosities-goes-viral/

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While many fear a future where AI-generated media becomes indistinguishable from traditional media, destroying society and/or civilization in the process, we aren't quite there yet. Exhibit A comes in the form of a surreal AI-generated beer commercial that went viral over the weekend.

Titled "Synthetic Summer," the 30-second video first appeared on Instagram about a week ago, created by Helen Power and Chris Boyle of a London-based production company called Privateisland.tv. The pair were not available for comment before this story was published, but judging by the look of the video, it appears they likely created it using Runway's new Gen-2 AI model, which can create short video clips based on written prompts similar to how Stable Diffusion can create still images.

Video in the link.

After watching the video I’m not convinced that ai generated porn (without the use of actors/ performers) like has been discussed some pages back is ready to take over the internet anytime soon.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

Boris Galerkin posted:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/ai-generated-beer-commercial-contains-joyful-monstrosities-goes-viral/

Video in the link.

After watching the video I’m not convinced that ai generated porn (without the use of actors/ performers) like has been discussed some pages back is ready to take over the internet anytime soon.

Or the opposite, all the weird flaws in AI generated video becomes someone’s thing.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Boris Galerkin posted:


After watching the video I’m not convinced that ai generated porn (without the use of actors/ performers) like has been discussed some pages back is ready to take over the internet anytime soon.

Don't give humans too much credit. "Things got weird when the floating boobs exploded into a dick cloud. Still finished."

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

Silly Burrito posted:

Or the opposite, all the weird flaws in AI generated video becomes someone’s thing.

I was a kid in the 90s that spent a lot of time looking at the scrambled playboy channel... Every 10 minutes or so, you could see a boob and the audio was mostly there!

gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

Boris Galerkin posted:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/ai-generated-beer-commercial-contains-joyful-monstrosities-goes-viral/

Video in the link.

After watching the video I’m not convinced that ai generated porn (without the use of actors/ performers) like has been discussed some pages back is ready to take over the internet anytime soon.

drat that video was weird, but in a unique way. That was like a beer commercial in a David Lynch movie or something. There's a movie to made just using whatever AI generator is being used. Not one that competes with real film, but a weird fever dream of a film.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Mega Comrade posted:

Maybe. But that just renaming the chrome app fixes the issue... Is a bit odd.

Is that in the article? I'm not seeing it.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Thing is they intend to absolutely flood every channel with this poo poo to the point where the novelty will definitely quickly wear off.

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine

Boris Galerkin posted:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/05/ai-generated-beer-commercial-contains-joyful-monstrosities-goes-viral/

Video in the link.

After watching the video I’m not convinced that ai generated porn (without the use of actors/ performers) like has been discussed some pages back is ready to take over the internet anytime soon.

Right now? Probably not, no. But even if improvements are slow its extremely likely within a few years. That beer commercial is pretty believable in parts.

Theres just too much money to be made from people with odd kinks, plus the ethical gains from not having performers of dubious motivation doing it, from AI porn. I'd say its a near certainty to happen once the tech is capable of it.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Dietrich posted:

Is that in the article? I'm not seeing it.


Gizmodo posted:

For people on the regular consumer version of Windows, things weren’t quite as bad; the one-click “Make Default” button just stopped working. Gizmodo was able to replicate the problem. In fact, we were able to circumvent the issue just by changing the name of the Chrome app on a Windows desktop.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Going by this popscience youtuber Kyle Hill video, these bots dont even really "get" some of the games they been trained to be amazing at. like they some how found a gimmick strategy that beats it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tWoPk25yU

its the chinese room problem but with more layers. also musk and techbros are just telling on themseleves. they're all deeply amazingly stupid and have the egos to think theyre da best and only a computer could beat them

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007
Was that beer commercial 'generated' from a series of prompts and assembled algorithmically, or was it a bunch of clips generated individually and put together by a human? HUGE difference imo.

gurragadon
Jul 28, 2006

It was a bunch of clips pasted together. Still need a human it seems beyond just prompting.

quote:

We've experimented with Gen-2 (which is currently in a closed testing phase), and generating even weirdly alien clips like these still require human persistence, running through and discarding many generations to get even an OK result. Even then, the resulting clip is only a few seconds long. In the case of Synthetic Summer, Privateisland.tv generated the clips, selected the best ones, and pieced the segments together in a sequence, adding music and sound effects.

Yeah it's a pretty big difference. A single prompt giving a video that long would be really impressive even if its pretty surreal. They did a good job of playing into the weirdness though with the Smashmouth song looping the line for the last 5 or so seconds.

gurragadon fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 3, 2023

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Silly Burrito posted:

Or the opposite, all the weird flaws in AI generated video becomes someone’s thing.

I would probably buy pizza from Pepperoni Hug Spot

https://twitter.com/Pizza_Later/status/1650605646620794916

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


MixMasterMalaria posted:

Was that beer commercial 'generated' from a series of prompts and assembled algorithmically, or was it a bunch of clips generated individually and put together by a human? HUGE difference imo.
one video editor and one prompt writer is a lot cheaper than a director, actor, writer, props, lights, camera, location and editor

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

PhazonLink posted:

Going by this popscience youtuber Kyle Hill video, these bots dont even really "get" some of the games they been trained to be amazing at. like they some how found a gimmick strategy that beats it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tWoPk25yU

its the chinese room problem but with more layers. also musk and techbros are just telling on themseleves. they're all deeply amazingly stupid and have the egos to think theyre da best and only a computer could beat them

  1. I've never really found the Chinese Room problem to be a convincing argument against AI. Saying "you're just interacting with stock responses, there's no understanding of what's being said!" is dumb - the chemicals that make up my brain don't understand anything either, it's the interactions and patterns that create my mind.
  2. Explain why louder doesn't rhyme with chowder, you posting criminal.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

The video stuff needs a lot of work but I won't be surprised when it gets closer. What is available now and really powerful is all the stuff adobe plans to do to make video production easier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30xueN12guw

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Agents are GO! posted:

[*]Explain why louder doesn't rhyme with chowder, you posting criminal.

This is how I know you're an AI posting bot, because they do.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

blunt posted:

I would probably buy pizza from Pepperoni Hug Spot

https://twitter.com/Pizza_Later/status/1650605646620794916

"Like family, but with more cheese" is a fantastic tagline, holy crap.

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


much like children's cartoons inspired furries, AI porn will inform what people think is erotic. I await the day where people need their partner to fake shark eyes and a second mouth to get off

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Family Values posted:

This is how I know you're an AI posting bot, because they do.

Looder with Chooder

Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

Agents are GO! posted:

  1. I've never really found the Chinese Room problem to be a convincing argument against AI. Saying "you're just interacting with stock responses, there's no understanding of what's being said!" is dumb - the chemicals that make up my brain don't understand anything either, it's the interactions and patterns that create my mind.

Maybe at some point in the future it won't really matter, but I think it's fairly relevant at the moment. Like, a relevant caveat with ChatGPT is that it doesn't really "understand" math:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Steve French posted:

Maybe at some point in the future it won't really matter, but I think it's fairly relevant at the moment. Like, a relevant caveat with ChatGPT is that it doesn't really "understand" math:



What the hell is 0.5% beer? One standard drink here is 3.5%

Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

Humphreys posted:

What the hell is 0.5% beer? One standard drink here is 3.5%

There’s a growing category of non-alcoholic beer, and I understand the qualification for it to be considered non-alcoholic (here in the US anyway) is that it must be less than 0.5% alcohol by volume.

3.5% is also rather low…

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Humphreys posted:

What the hell is 0.5% beer? One standard drink here is 3.5%

0.5%ABV is the standard for a beer to be sold as non-alcoholic. Also, where is “here?” The US and Canada both use 12oz. at 5% as far as I know.

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empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Epic High Five posted:

I used an FM transmitter forever in my first car, the trick was to figure out where your car's receiver actually is. I got the best results having it in my back seat. Once I got a new car I made sure it had an aux cable, the superior option even to this day.

Your receiver (or stereo) was in the dash. What you mean is where the antenna was located, which I'm assuming was mounted on the back of your car since the transmitter worked better in the back seat.

Some of those FM modulators would plug into the antenna port on the back of your receiver but those were more expensive. And the earlier models transmitted at a higher power but IIRC a law was passed that limited the power and that's when they all began to suck, although they were always hit or miss in big cities. Another issue was that some auto manufacturer's glass (I remember VW being one) were made in a way that blocked the signal from the FM transmitter in the car to the outside antenna and made those things not work great. I remember having a 2001 Jetta with an early iPod and the first transmitter I purchased worked pretty well, but when I picked up a second one it was barely functional for what I figured out was at least for one of these reasons.

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