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Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.
it's fine though! who cares! they can just rereg and be a normal person, get an alt and be a normal person, or fail at that and get perma'd! it's not a big deal folks.

sorry this feels like im critiquing anyone in this thread and im not really it's just like. we haven't committed some Big Social Unpardonable Sin. they made folks super uncomfortable & worse, made ME super uncomfortable, and they got banned for not knowing decent boundaries. their life isn't over. their SOCIAL LIFE HERE isn't even really over. they just got told "hey dont do that". it's fine!!! why care about that!!!

argh. where is the next sudden IMPact when you need it...

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Lady Radia posted:

it's fine though! who cares! they can just rereg and be a normal person, get an alt and be a normal person, or fail at that and get perma'd! it's not a big deal folks.

sorry this feels like im critiquing anyone in this thread and im not really it's just like. we haven't committed some Big Social Unpardonable Sin. they made folks super uncomfortable & worse, made ME super uncomfortable, and they got banned for not knowing decent boundaries. their life isn't over. their SOCIAL LIFE HERE isn't even really over. they just got told "hey dont do that". it's fine!!! why care about that!!!

argh. where is the next sudden IMPact when you need it...

I mean yeah, why are people acting like if you get banned from the forums you get banned from real life?

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Lady Radia posted:

we dont talk about that one actually

lol

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Frank Frank posted:

Also everyone is always their avatar

i am every avatar i have ever had anywhere all at once

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

i dont really care what made applewhite horny but he kept posting weird poo poo making people uncomfortable and treating others like fetish objects and was writing and posting fetish material that can be considered transphobic. the dragon dicks and boob thread showed he had not moved on or changed from this behavior and he was punished for it

There are people who are into weird porn and then there are people who are into showing other people weird porn without warning

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Lady Radia posted:

it's fine though! who cares! they can just rereg and be a normal person, get an alt and be a normal person, or fail at that and get perma'd! it's not a big deal folks.

sorry this feels like im critiquing anyone in this thread and im not really it's just like. we haven't committed some Big Social Unpardonable Sin. they made folks super uncomfortable & worse, made ME super uncomfortable, and they got banned for not knowing decent boundaries. their life isn't over. their SOCIAL LIFE HERE isn't even really over. they just got told "hey dont do that". it's fine!!! why care about that!!!

argh. where is the next sudden IMPact when you need it...

To be fair, I don't think this gets said enough that people who get probed or banned for being weird can really internalize it.

The only thing a lot of people see, or really care about, is the punishment.

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.

Runa posted:

To be fair, I don't think this gets said enough that people who get probed or banned for being weird can really internalize it.

The only thing a lot of people see, or really care about, is the punishment.

i think this is a hard problem to solve. i completely agree it can be a problem - a lot of people act out weirdly because of unsolved issues they're working through.

but i do not think it is a problem we need to solve before taking half steps towards a better community which draws lines like this.

i'm not saying you are advocating that, i'm just clarifying i think there is a non destructive order of operations here

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Yeah

Radia
Jul 14, 2021

And someday, together.. We'll shine.
y...yeah!!!

Yaoi Gagarin
Feb 20, 2014

Yes


E:

Antivehicular posted:

I believe the story behind most CCCC threads is that they either ballooned wildly off-topic/got cliquey and the original forum didn't want to deal with them, or they were initially chat threads where the home forums got hostile (like the gay and trans threads that used to live in E/N until Bobbie Wickham refused to moderate predators).

Just want to bring this up again for a moment. Is this why the gay thread sees so little activity now? I noticed it was moved long ago but since it was in my bookmarks I didn't really pay attention to where. And now that I've actually looked, it turns out it's like a parking lot forum that nobody would ever look for new threads in anyway.

Do people generally like the current setup? Is the trans thread more alive than the gay thread?

Yaoi Gagarin fucked around with this message at 08:46 on May 6, 2023

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
there was also a thing with kiwifarms freaks hatereading the sa trans threads and doxxing posters, idk when that was chronologically but that's why they all say not to post selfies

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

i watched infernal affairs last night and it ruled. gonna watch the sequels soon even though i heard theyre not as good

what up fellow criterion subscriber. doing the same except i'm just going back and watching more rad suzuki weirdness.

:hfive:

NoiseAnnoys
May 17, 2010

Lady Radia posted:

hey. i'm sorry. these forums are really hosed up, sometimes. i don't have words to make that easier but you have friends here.

Traxus IV
Sep 11, 2001

it's our time now
let's get this shit started


VostokProgram posted:

Yes


E:

Just want to bring this up again for a moment. Is this why the gay thread sees so little activity now? I noticed it was moved long ago but since it was in my bookmarks I didn't really pay attention to where. And now that I've actually looked, it turns out it's like a parking lot forum that nobody would ever look for new threads in anyway.

Do people generally like the current setup? Is the trans thread more alive than the gay thread?

I don't know the whole story but part of why the gay thread is so dead is that most of the people in it post in a gay discord now instead of the thread

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
so you're saying it's a dead gay thread?

Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.

Kagaya Homoraisan posted:

i watched infernal affairs last night and it ruled. gonna watch the sequels soon even though i heard theyre not as good

That's the movie that got remade as The Departed, right? I'm pretty sure that was a good movie.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Hmm, I don't know what else was going on with Applewhite so I'm not fully aware of their posting history, but their punishment being ramped to a ban+30 over transphobia feels, I dunno, wrong somehow? Ramp it up for being the dragon dicks poster or w/e, but I recall Space Tits and rear end ended with Space rear end getting over her transphobia and rekindling her relationship with Space Tits. Just taking one post out of context in order to villify an easy target.

It feels disingenuous to call them a transphobe when it seems to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice and when the posts being used to justify that label are part of a narrative about overcoming transphobia?

Keep the punishment as is for being the dragon dicks weirdo, I dunno.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Wtf bappin

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Runa posted:

Hmm, I don't know what else was going on with Applewhite so I'm not fully aware of their posting history, but their punishment being ramped to a ban+30 over transphobia feels, I dunno, wrong somehow? Ramp it up for being the dragon dicks poster or w/e, but I recall Space Tits and rear end ended with Space rear end getting over her transphobia and rekindling her relationship with Space Tits. Just taking one post out of context in order to villify an easy target.

It feels disingenuous to call them a transphobe when it seems to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice and when the posts being used to justify that label are part of a narrative about overcoming transphobia?

Keep the punishment as is for being the dragon dicks weirdo, I dunno.

Sadly they also made a bunch of gross transphobic posts in the past couple weeks so it appears nothing was learned

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

so you're saying it's a dead gay thread?

dead gay so what

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Runa posted:

Hmm, I don't know what else was going on with Applewhite so I'm not fully aware of their posting history, but their punishment being ramped to a ban+30 over transphobia feels, I dunno, wrong somehow? Ramp it up for being the dragon dicks poster or w/e, but I recall Space Tits and rear end ended with Space rear end getting over her transphobia and rekindling her relationship with Space Tits. Just taking one post out of context in order to villify an easy target.

It feels disingenuous to call them a transphobe when it seems to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice and when the posts being used to justify that label are part of a narrative about overcoming transphobia?

Keep the punishment as is for being the dragon dicks weirdo, I dunno.

IMO it shows that he hasn't really changed since the dragon poo poo was still as creepy and Chaser as hell, it's worth looking at from the perspective of continued behavior.

like if in an alternate reality the dragon stuff was just cringe instead of a gross sex thing and the space tits and rear end thing was dug up to try to get him retroactively in trouble, that'd be one thing, but it really feels the exact same crap.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Runa posted:

Hmm, I don't know what else was going on with Applewhite so I'm not fully aware of their posting history, but their punishment being ramped to a ban+30 over transphobia feels, I dunno, wrong somehow? Ramp it up for being the dragon dicks poster or w/e, but I recall Space Tits and rear end ended with Space rear end getting over her transphobia and rekindling her relationship with Space Tits. Just taking one post out of context in order to villify an easy target.

It feels disingenuous to call them a transphobe when it seems to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice and when the posts being used to justify that label are part of a narrative about overcoming transphobia?

Keep the punishment as is for being the dragon dicks weirdo, I dunno.

he wrote about a third dragon gender that werent real women that existed only so the horny male dragons had something to gently caress when the real women werent in heat

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

goblin week posted:

what’s up with going after decade old posts anyway
Incredible first post in this thread my dude, lmfao.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

i read it all

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I don't think anyone should be expected to read the full narrative of Space Tits and rear end to grasp the context of that one post, when one also has the context of them posting gross fetishy chaser poo poo as recently as this week.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Fajita Queen posted:

dead gay so what

I sometimes still fondly think back to a post I have only ever heard paraphrased, something along the lines of

"Goons in 2010: the something awful forums are dead (bad), gay (bad)
Goons in 2020: the something awful forums are dead (good), gay (good)"

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
They were dinged for transphobia because the pathetic admins of this website are far too fragile to ever admit that they hosed up with the initial punishment so they had to find an excuse to ramp it other than “yeah we suck real bad and are dumb as poo poo”.

Cranappleberry
Jan 27, 2009
what's the relevance of the fall of the roman empire anyway? Like, why would you bring that up, it's so long ago?

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Whether Applewhite is transphobic in his heart or not he's still made a career of posting skeevy chaser porn, which I'd really rather not see anywhere on the forums

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

No Dignity posted:

Whether Applewhite is transphobic in his heart or not he's still made a career of posting skeevy chaser porn, which I'd really rather not see anywhere on the forums

yep, this

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Fajita Queen posted:

Sadly they also made a bunch of gross transphobic posts in the past couple weeks so it appears nothing was learned

Ibram Gaunt posted:

IMO it shows that he hasn't really changed since the dragon poo poo was still as creepy and Chaser as hell, it's worth looking at from the perspective of continued behavior.

like if in an alternate reality the dragon stuff was just cringe instead of a gross sex thing and the space tits and rear end thing was dug up to try to get him retroactively in trouble, that'd be one thing, but it really feels the exact same crap.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

he wrote about a third dragon gender that werent real women that existed only so the horny male dragons had something to gently caress when the real women werent in heat

I see.

Yeah, okay then.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

No Dignity posted:

Whether Applewhite is transphobic in his heart or not he's still made a career of posting skeevy chaser porn, which I'd really rather not see anywhere on the forums

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Runa posted:

Hmm, I don't know what else was going on with Applewhite so I'm not fully aware of their posting history, but their punishment being ramped to a ban+30 over transphobia feels, I dunno, wrong somehow? Ramp it up for being the dragon dicks poster or w/e, but I recall Space Tits and rear end ended with Space rear end getting over her transphobia and rekindling her relationship with Space Tits. Just taking one post out of context in order to villify an easy target.

It feels disingenuous to call them a transphobe when it seems to come from a place of ignorance rather than malice and when the posts being used to justify that label are part of a narrative about overcoming transphobia?

Keep the punishment as is for being the dragon dicks weirdo, I dunno.

I'm the admin who did that so I feel obliged to expand on my reasoning for it in the name of transparency.

I think that the parts of the old thread that I have read over the last day were transphobic regardless of whatever ending was arrived at later in the narrative. They revolved around objectifying and fetishizing trans people within the general trend of the entire thread being overt masturbation material, and the particular post linked was especially transphobic in the way it chose to frame the plot point of another character transitioning: describing transition as "unusual predilections" or a kink, describing it as "the man you love disappear[ing]", the entire thing revolving around sex and genitalia, the line "Your husband was more silicone now than man, some kind of cobbled together abomination you could no longer tolerate"... and so on. Coupled with the material of a character transitioning being used as joke fodder for the thread with followup posts such as:

Bacontotem posted:

Jerked it to Space Tits. Now regrets the plot twist.

RudeCat posted:

Same, but only because I regret not waiting until the plot twist.

Meme Poker Party posted:

She was drawn before the creator decided she was a man. You're in the clear buddy!

I did not do the ban+30 for an eight year old post, I did it for the dragon porn thread, but I did it because to me the eight year old thread shows that this is a recurring pattern of behaviour in which Applewhite fetishizes trans people in a way that I interpret as transphobic, in service of writing and drawing fetish porn stories to post on the forums. The combination of those things, to me, demanded the larger penalty.

Valko
Sep 18, 2015

Pablo Nergigante posted:

This. Great show but do not reboot it. Brittany Murphy and Tom Petty are no longer with us anyway

Jaime Pressly can fill in for Brittany Murphy.

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
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vyelkin posted:

I'm the admin who did that so I feel obliged to expand on my reasoning for it in the name of transparency.

I think that the parts of the old thread that I have read over the last day were transphobic regardless of whatever ending was arrived at later in the narrative. They revolved around objectifying and fetishizing trans people within the general trend of the entire thread being overt masturbation material, and the particular post linked was especially transphobic in the way it chose to frame the plot point of another character transitioning: describing transition as "unusual predilections" or a kink, describing it as "the man you love disappear[ing]", the entire thing revolving around sex and genitalia, the line "Your husband was more silicone now than man, some kind of cobbled together abomination you could no longer tolerate"... and so on. [..]

I read all of that as being narrated in the character's internal voice.

Tokyo Sexwale
Jul 30, 2003

I often refer to 'my wife' as 'your wife' internally

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i hung out with my brother last night and he told me he has gotten back into path of exile and its ruining his life

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Horrified to discover this https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/1...ingawful.com%2F

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Tokyo Sexwale posted:

I often refer to 'my wife' as 'your wife' internally

And we're right back to that weird cuckold cartoon now.

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American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
It's all alleged. They're building heat. Finish the story mode and all will be revealed and the Blonde Bomber will be he exonerated.

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