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stephenthinkpad posted:Australia is not in the region (neither is India), Australia is closest to the region they have. China in response, also increases cooperation in Solomon island and other pacific islands. Kind of sucking up US diplomatic energy and push the contest further east. Well according to the US, the "Indo-Pacific" is now significant, but it also shows how far they now have to push out to pretend to contain China. I think there is still a dream that the Indian Navy is going to be sailing around the Straits of Malacca to hit the SCS. Also, with RCEP signed, and just the sheer size of the Chinese economy, there is going to be an incentive not to directly confront China. Australia is probably going to learn the conseuqneces of this the hard way.
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May 8, 2023 11:28
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Australia will never learn anything.
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May 8, 2023 11:37
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BennyProfane posted:Legend of galactic heroes is great, it's a materialist anime about the dumbest liberal democrats to ever exist fighting the smartest Imperial rulers to ever exist and the moral is that both systems are terribly stupid and doomed from the get go. They hated him for telling the truth
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May 8, 2023 11:48
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Orange Devil posted:Australia will never learn anything. It never has before, why start now?
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May 8, 2023 12:18
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PhilippAchtel posted:They hated him for telling the truth past sins are never forgiven, nor forgotten, i've learned
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May 8, 2023 12:33
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Ardennes posted:Well according to the US, the "Indo-Pacific" is now significant, but it also shows how far they now have to push out to pretend to contain China. I think there is still a dream that the Indian Navy is going to be sailing around the Straits of Malacca to hit the SCS. It looks like China is doing some basing stuff in Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand and there's been discussion of cutting a canal through Thailand somewhere. The strait to the south is one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes so this would be pretty big stuff. I think America is just hoping India will help contain them at the Andamans.
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May 8, 2023 12:43
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Orange Devil posted:Australia will never learn anything.
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May 8, 2023 13:26
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Weka posted:It looks like China is doing some basing stuff in Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand and there's been discussion of cutting a canal through Thailand somewhere. The strait to the south is one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes so this would be pretty big stuff. I thought the Thailand canal was a great idea. If you look at the map, it shouldn't be that hard for China's infrastructure capability and could instantly take away half of Singapore port's sea trade traffic. But it was briefly mentioned a few years ago and never spoken again. I think the reason is it touches too many parties pie, and Thailand has a unstable bipolar politic. And that narrow region is Thai's Muslim region, so basically the Thai version of Uyghurs, so Beijing didn't want to touch it. It reminded me of the Imperial Germany planned Berlin-Baghdad railroad that was arguably one of the triggers of the WW1. So instead of change the sea route, China has been building HSR in Laos, and low key building railroad in part of Thailand. Since Japan has failed to build a railroad line in western part of Thailand and has nothing to show for in Vietnam at all, I think this mainland SEA railroad has good chance of connecting and running at the way to Cambodia. Everything in Thailand is so hush hush and soapy, I have no idea the progress of the Thailand portion of the rail line. Running a railroad line thru the land locked country Laos is clearly the strategically safest route against the US naval power. 
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May 8, 2023 13:32
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Slavvy posted:I don't think so, I think it's more along the lines of 'at least someone is in charge' Yeah while monarchists are dumb as poo poo, I guess it makes sense coming to that since every time Dems are in charge they insist actually no one has political power
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May 8, 2023 13:38
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Weka posted:It looks like China is doing some basing stuff in Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand and there's been discussion of cutting a canal through Thailand somewhere. The strait to the south is one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes so this would be pretty big stuff. The issue is that India really doesn't have a firm interest in shutting down global trade, as well as using significant assets to deal with China while attempting to keep an overt advantage over Pakistan and protect its nearer interests. Yeah, I don't know if China is going to get that canal done but at the same time it is clear they are developing more infrastructure in SEA, and I think the US is going to have a top of pushback if they try to sever Chinese-ASEAN teade.
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May 8, 2023 13:52
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where would this Thailand canal theoretically be?
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May 8, 2023 13:58
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I thought a successful space test looked like the rocket blowing up a few mintues into its flight
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May 8, 2023 14:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:where would this Thailand canal theoretically be? looking it up it would go something like this, which makes sense when you look at the topography 
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May 8, 2023 15:33
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I always forget that's Thailand poking way out into the gulf there doesn't seem like it would really save much time compared to the existing straits for the infrastructure investment, unless the concern is that there's just too much traffic and it's slowing things down? or just trying to take some power from singapore
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May 8, 2023 15:44
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the bitcoin of weed posted:I always forget that's Thailand poking way out into the gulf there it would be more like the kiel canal than panama or the suez
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May 8, 2023 15:46
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huh. it seems to me like it'd be somewhere between 50 to 120 km long, depending on from where you start measuring and whether you count existing waterways as something that the canal would simply "link up" with and looking it up, the Panama Canal itself is "only" 82 km sounds doable, engineering-wise!
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May 8, 2023 15:47
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KomradeX posted:I thought a successful space test looked like the rocket blowing up a few mintues into its flight Only way you can get data
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May 8, 2023 15:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:huh. it seems to me like it'd be somewhere between 50 to 120 km long, depending on from where you start measuring and whether you count existing waterways as something that the canal would simply "link up" with the panama canal also has the big artificial lake in the middle, im not sure how you would count it from quickly measuring in google maps its more like 40km without it
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May 8, 2023 15:57
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lollontee posted:past sins are never forgiven, nor forgotten, i've learned Why is it "lollontee" and not "lolontee"?
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May 8, 2023 16:05
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The big engineer problem Panama canal project had to overcome was the mosquitos killing the workers. The French couldn't do it and the Americans took over, also made that part of land declare independence and basically lorded over ever since. So Thailand had to be worry about that little penis area declare independence.
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May 8, 2023 16:07
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I am watching a youtuber video he did a recap of the Sino-US tension leading up to the 2014 SCS dispute and Island building (which I consider the official table flipping moment). I will just type them out to refresh my memory He considered the Sino-US relationship going downhill started from 2006 2006: currency exchange rate dispute (Schumer Graham Act), China agreed to appreciate Yuan value (from 8.3 to 7.x 6.x , limited free floating). 2008: inflation, pork price war (I don't remember this, but I will just type it out) 2010: Pivot to Asia 2012: Diaoyu/Senkaku island dispute (both side sent "non government" people to land on the island), China started regularly patrolling Diaoyu island and basically shutdown and future Japanese landing 2013: Start investigation of Huawei and ZTE So the Sino-US competition almost has nothing to do with whoever is the head of state, the policies continue throughout multiple presidencies for both countries.
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May 8, 2023 16:31
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PhilippAchtel posted:Why is it "lollontee" and not "lolontee"? why
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May 8, 2023 17:37
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just because i want to make you ask why, doesn't mean there's necessarily an answer waiting for you
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May 8, 2023 17:39
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davvidlynchontee
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May 8, 2023 17:41
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davidllynchontee, rather
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May 8, 2023 17:42
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copy posted:davidlynchontee you motherfucker, i saw that
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May 8, 2023 17:43
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lol
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May 8, 2023 17:44
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stephenthinkpad posted:I am watching a youtuber video he did a recap of the Sino-US tension leading up to the 2014 SCS dispute and Island building (which I consider the official table flipping moment). You can go back even farther to 2000 and that spy plane the Chinese forced down. Everyone forgets that before 9/11 everyone saw Bush trying to Pivot to Asia to assert US authority there
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May 8, 2023 17:48
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KomradeX posted:You can go back even farther to 2000 and that spy plane the Chinese forced down. Everyone forgets that before 9/11 everyone saw Bush trying to Pivot to Asia to assert US authority there Yeah well, all Chinese know that. Bush shoveling his skyplane to the nose of the Chinese to create the next US adversary. Also bombing of the Chinese embassy. Comrade Bin Laden brought China valuable time. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten. Oldsnakesalute.gif
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May 8, 2023 17:54
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China first started large scale rearmament/confronting USA after USA quintuple-tapped the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. e: beaten
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May 8, 2023 17:57
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flattening the chinese embassy and blaming it on out of date maps
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May 8, 2023 18:02
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https://twitter.com/BarneyFlames/status/1655619247828238336
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May 8, 2023 18:13
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Jai hind
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May 8, 2023 18:21
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AnimeIsTrash posted:china has such an insane modern history. the country basically went through several civil wars during the warlord era, a genocidal occupation, and then another civil war in which the CPC ultimately won. someone even tried to restore the qing dynasty somewhere in between all that? my favorite part about the brief attempted restoration of the Qing dynasty during the warlord era is that the nominal emperor didn't even know it had happened he also did not know he had ever been overthrown in the first place, because he was an effective prisoner in the palace and the royal court carefully insulated him from the knowledge that the empire no longer existed. getting kicked out of the palace and learning that the nation he thought he was governing had collapsed years ago and was currently in the middle of a decades-long civil war, in which none of the important players were at all interested in letting him return to power, was quite a rude awakening. he then became a puppet ruler for the Japanese which did a good job of destroying any lingering monarchist sentiment that might have remained
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May 8, 2023 18:57
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my dad posted:China first started large scale rearmament/confronting USA after USA quintuple-tapped the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. That makes a lot of sense
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May 8, 2023 19:09
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The last emperor became the kid emperor because the Empress Dowager poisoned the previous emperor one day before her own death. That emperor was in his prime and could have done some popular reforms to prolong the dying breath of the Qing dynasty. Puyi being a kid who didn't know anything kinda made China's transformation from a gunpowder empire to a republic smoother than other old world empires.
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May 8, 2023 19:35
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bedpan posted:flattening the chinese embassy and blaming it on out of date maps they didnt even make a genuine effort to hide that it was deliberate, openly admitting it was the sole CIA-designated target in the war. maybe they wanted to send a message? it was definitely a real pre-crack ping headscratcher to me how everyone bought the official line that oops the CIA ordered this one bombing on a low-importance target and their maps were wrong
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May 8, 2023 19:36
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eSports Chaebol posted:they didnt even make a genuine effort to hide that it was deliberate, openly admitting it was the sole CIA-designated target in the war. maybe they wanted to send a message? it was definitely a real pre-crack ping headscratcher to me how everyone bought the official line that oops the CIA ordered this one bombing on a low-importance target and their maps were wrong not sure if its true but i've heard the reason was that serbia gave china pieces of the f-117 they shot down, and they were keeping them at the embassy for transport.
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May 8, 2023 19:38
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stephenthinkpad posted:Yeah well, all Chinese know that. Bush shoveling his skyplane to the nose of the Chinese to create the next US adversary. Also bombing of the Chinese embassy. Comrade Bin Laden brought China valuable time. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten. wait what was this, I have a hole in my brain where the turn of the millennium was filed
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May 8, 2023 22:52
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https://twitter.com/thinking_panda/status/1655544310849499136 china knows how to test busses 
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