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Doobie's Dogstep![]()
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# ? May 29, 2024 21:48 |
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no, dubstep isn't loud or fast enough
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I mean 100 gecs and dorian electra throw some dubstep (and ska mentioned earlier) in their mashup of genres sometimes and it works
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dubstep never left, bitch BEOOOWWWWNN KRKRKR SHHHHGH BWUMBWUM BWOOOOOWWWW
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https://youtu.be/750R4EjqGmI
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OP, do you prefer dubstep or substep?
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I hope dubstep makes a comeback that was great. Dubstep forever and ever.
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Internet Old One posted:I hope dubstep makes a comeback that was great. Dubstep forever and ever. ![]()
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Slubstep
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If you want to a picture of the future of popular music imagine a wub stamping on an electronic beat, forever.
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I'm still happy 2 B hardcore.
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Ciao Wren posted:I'm still happy hardcore. ![]() https://youtu.be/SXfesY-XurM
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Wait, dubstep is.....old?
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je1 healthcare posted:Wait, dubstep is.....old? The 70s preservation society was only 11 years after the end of the 70s. https://youtu.be/CE5Qrb3GsEQ
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Private Cumshoe posted:Doobie's Dogstep That's just doob and tash talkin about slaw dogs over the beat from in da club
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The only two pieces of media that I like that are dubstep related. Dubstep itself was pretty droll, for me anyways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEnaoydUUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYkbbMA3ozQ
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Lots of terminally uncool goons itt
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Colonel Cancer posted:Lots of terminally uncool goons itt Well, duh. I listen to garbage rear end noise bullshit. I never claimed to be cool.
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Escape From Noise posted:Does anyone know what Skrillex is up to these days? Maybe we can blackmail him with those pictures of him eating bacon with Lowtax so that he does YouTube ads for SA or something. Hes doing jungle, like a fuckin adult
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Edmund Sparkler posted:Dubstep (specifically brostep) was tailor made for insecure young guys who thought that house music was too There's definitely some truth to this. Dubstep was born from UK Garage, but as soon as a bunch of Drum & Bass producers got a hold of it around 2008 it started to lose the shuffle rhythm and develop an aggressive edge. Things started bubbling up in North America where that aggression REALLY started to pick up steam and it quickly led to the explosive popularity of guys like Excision and eventually Skrillex. I don't know if the fact that Skrillex was formerly in a metalcore band had anything to do with the genre's cross-pollination in popularity, but it may have. In any case, the hostility of that particular flavour of Dubstep had an appeal to loads of millenials who were coming into their own musical tastes around 2010 but unsure of the 'Blog House' that came before; four-on-the-floor House rhythms just reminded everyone a bit too much of the Electric Circus, Alice Deejay/Darude/Tiesto 'Techno' they used to make fun of people for being into in the late 90s. Dubstep came along with its halftime rhythm devoid of any real intricacy, something you can bob to if you're into Hip-Hop or just don't really know how to dance. Those kind of beats lend themselves very well to spicy open hi-hats and huge midrange-dominating snares - stuff that tweaked your ear as signatures of metal music - and the pummelling chainsaw synthesizer sounds had a weight to them not unlike that of a down-tuned guitar, chugging along on the tonic note in patterns reminiscent of the nu-metal that so many disaffected young men listened to in their pre-teen years. 'The Drop' had been a thing for some time but a lot of Dubstep artists basically turned that manipulation of building energy into their whole raison d'etre, like they'd cracked part of 'the code' that made music hit your brain's reward system. The fact that popular dance music trended towards the loud in-your-face stuff that we tend to associate with Dubstep (but also Electro House, Hardstyle, Drum & Bass etc.) was sort of inevitable with the advancement of music production technology. Not only did everything become more accessible than ever before with the advent of laptops and powerful self-contained DAWs, but the tools we use to mix music became more surgical. The pioneers of the dark, brooding and aggressive Drum & Bass sound that was a primary progenitor of what we're calling Dubstep here, used to do something called 'resampling': essentially, this is the process of recording a sound through a series of filters and effects, and then taking the result and putting it through the same (or other) filters and effects. It was a necessity because of the limitations of studio equipment in the 1990s - your sampler or your computer would run out of memory and your CPU would choke on big chains of devices with automated parameters, so you'd burn to audio a simple bass sound with some filter movement, and then take that audio and run it through more effects until you got something you liked. It's possible to be clinical with this approach, but by and large it is a process of 'throwing poo poo at the wall until it sticks'; there was little method to it and producers would spend days resampling basslines with basically zero technical education of what their gear is actually doing, until something that sounded new and inspiring came out the other end. A lot of producers still do resample religiously (in fact there are certain timbres that you basically can't get without employing a sampler for its unique properties like time-stretching and granulation), but the advent of powerful software synthesizers like NI Massive (literally the dominating synth in all Dubstep) and DAWs that could run effect chains as long as your computer would allow, made the process of inventing twisty new synth sounds with novel harmonic series that invaded your sinuses while the bass shook your body, very easy and accessible without all that work. Maybe more important than the new synths that came out and rocked the world of EDM production, is compression. We've all heard of the 'loudness wars' that permeated music and caused critics to cry. The thing that's really at the heart of that ability to squeeze every ounce of volume out of a song, is this dynamic range compression and limiting. Compressors have always been a thing in music production, but around 2005 we started seeing digital options that were basically transparent; you could apply boatloads of limiting to a channel (or indeed, your entire mix) without incurring the same colouration and loss of impact that their predecessors would impart to the sound. Similarly, frequency crossovers got really tight and transparent in the past 15 years or so, which let to Over-The-Top compression (a multiband compression technique that compresses all bands of a signal both upwards and downwards at basically an infinite ratio); a development that's become so popular it's a preset in Ableton's native Multiband Compressor and other devices, and something that you basically can't produce a modern EDM song without employing in some way or another. Additionally, sidechain compression (that 'pumping' sound most readily associated with Daft Punk's Discovery even though it's barely used at all on that album, maybe it could more accurately attributed to Justice's debut release Cross) allowed producers to use sounds that were dominating of a wide range of the frequency spectrum without having to complementarily EQ out parts so they didn't clash - just slap a surgical sidechain comp on your screechy midrange wobble to duck it slightly every time your huge snare hits. So yeah, the behemoth that is EDM as we know it was something of an inevitability, born of advancements in technology and accessibility. And its vanguard was Dubstep - a genre that was almost tailor-made to appeal to disaffected millennial boys who were getting bored of Nu-Metal and wanted to wile out on drugs but thought House music was too gay to admit to enjoying. I do find it really hilarious, in a mildly bitter way, that a LOT of the same dudes who used to make fun of me for enjoying the Chemical Brothers and Daft Punk and Mr Oizo, came to me in the early 2010s like reborn electronic music heads. Their enthusiasm for electronic music is nakedly shallow. On the other hand, the genre basically breathed new life into Drum & Bass and probably Electro House too, and the folks who actually legitimately enjoyed it branched out into those genres and started doing some really innovative things. Dubstep is never coming back though. I mean, it never really left, but it's not going to see a resurgence based on a couple of pedestrian tunes on the new Skrillex album - most of which take a turn into four-on-the-floor rhythms anyway, which is a strong indicator that even producers are fatigued by the sound. I mostly stopped paying attention to the aggro Bro Dubstep side of things around 2015. Although there are still the occasional banger that sits around 140BPM halftime and absolutely tears my loving head off - and I will always give a listen to releases from perennial favourites like Excision or Knife Party - since that time they've become exceedingly rare. Most Dubstep producers with more than a modicum of talent moved on to making Trap music in the mid-2010s. Producers who never got out of that sound are now making cookie-cutter 'headbanging' tunes that literally all sound the same, and what's worse is they're calling it 'Riddim' now, which is honestly loving embarrassing. There's still plenty of good 'Deep Dubstep' out there, the kind of stuff that inspires you to roll up a big blunt and chill while still tickling your hypermasculine side with a bit of hostility, but by and large producers making that stuff are generally just calling it 'Grime'. Dubplate Fire posted:Hes doing jungle, like a fuckin adult lmao what track on the new album would you call even remotely 'jungle'? Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 20:39 on May 9, 2023 |
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Tiesto sucks. Tiesto has always sucked.
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Mister Speaker posted:lmao what track on the new album would you call even remotely 'jungle'? I didnt listen to it, i just read a headline in a fb group lol.
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You know the score
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Dubplate Fire posted:I didnt listen to it, i just read a headline in a fb group lol. Nice, thread revival time. Destroid were also something of an inevitability in the EDM scene; a 'band' of masked artists 'making' extremely Bro Dubstep 'live'. I use those quotation marks maybe too derisively, there probably WAS something going on with their custom MIDI guitars, but I think the only one who was really doing much was their drummer, KJ Sawka. Excision and Downlink just kind of looked rad. Anyway they didn't have many hits except for Bounce, which absolutely slaps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axRf7gOVds The VIP mix is even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUMzmLTolg
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Mister Speaker posted:Nice, thread revival time. This was one of the greatest tunes https://youtu.be/imK-4ZZ3Sb8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49xH4e4gyUM
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https://youtu.be/2jHB3ane5Ck
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Escape From Noise posted:Chudstep Lets gooooo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgybawnbViY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnKvIFOewZQ
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ded mau five
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BAD NEWS! it will combine with amphetamine-fueled horticulture and become shrubstep
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Not quite the right tempo but Truth are legendary in the 'deep but still aggressive' side of dubstep, and one of a few artists who REALLY know how to flex their ultra-low sub bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t4VQQ0C-C8
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Slaps, but honestly u could pick any deep medi tune out of a hat and it will
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lNVr2b3XUY
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My god it's nothin but toilet sounds!
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I like that dubstep there
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squelchy womps
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istewart posted:BAD NEWS! I'd listen to some shrubcore.
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Parents need to be preparing their children now if they want them to grow up to be the No Doubt of third generation Reggaeton.
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# ? May 29, 2024 21:48 |
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Say no to techno. ![]()
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