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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Huh so there is. Here's the link in case anyone wants to defend the thread:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4031532&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

To be completely honest this thread does stare into the abyss a lot, and some of the poo poo people post is cringe at best and usually much worse. That said it is much better than its D&D counterpart, and probably the best place on SA for unfiltered climate news.

Anyway when do you guys think we will get our first Category 6 hurricane? With the oceans being much warmer my money is on this year, but I know it doesn’t quite work like that. Then again maybe it does.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Goa Tse-tung posted:

love that there is a tribunal about the fate of this thread in SAD right now, and nobody asked in here for feedback or anything

lol another one?

lmao at worrying bout the "mental health" of posters here when they're so freakishly obsessed

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
I’m just glad to see more people talking about biosphere collapse.

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

I can't wait to die!!!!!

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.

Microplastics posted:

Huh so there is. Here's the link in case anyone wants to defend the thread:


This post seems like a trap

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

Im exxxtremely insane + stupid and this is my favorite thread on the entire internet, please don't take it way mr. website man

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
We knew the thread would be destroyed

Ironic. Not by the implacable grind of climate reality, but by the hand of goons

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

lol just look at this stupid fuckin post

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Somebody has issued a correction as of 08:42 on May 9, 2023

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

last week i finished reading this book,

published in 2019
lmao talking about tragedies that kill thousands
lmao talking about how optimistic he is
lmao talking about how the globe will come together to tackle climate change and reverse the trend
lmao

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Perhaps this plastic friend may comfort you

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Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

silicone thrills posted:

Reading Fathoms: The World in a Whale right now and im about 40% in but its really really eco doomer and well written. Mostly about how humans totally loving decimated the whale population by 99.7% in around 100 years and it goes some into how whales are basically their own carbon sinks and have a real affect on climate. But also the psychological implication of "why do we suddenly give a poo poo after we murdered them this hard" and the psychology of caring about endangered species.
quoting to read later thanks

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
respect for the goatse. i thought i checked the actual link

Slider
Jun 6, 2004

POINTS

when i read that a couple years ago it made me somewhat upset. now i just continue on tediously and laugh

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Trixie Hardcore posted:

This post seems like a trap

oh they're gonna win everyone over for sure. defensive posting never backfires

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Zodium posted:

the english version is Marx in the Anthropocene.
quoting to read later thanks

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004


lmfao

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Wheeee posted:

lol just look at this stupid fuckin post

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drat i stood up to do this, beaten to the punch

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

brakeless posted:

Im exxxtremely insane + stupid and this is my favorite thread on the entire internet, please don't take it way mr. website man

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

For the doomer thread it certainly brings me great joy and laughter.


Local poo poo: miners lettuce is super delicious and healthy and a native plant to my area so about 2 years ago I went loving wild seeding the hell out of some areas I'd done ivy remediation in and now there's miners lettuce all over.

Also planted a bunch of red flower currents and salmon berry in the same area to help create a cohesive understory that can feed wildlife and just be cool.

It's not much in the grand scheme of things but it's a net good and brings me and others joy.

two-time fee
Jan 13, 2022
*sprinting into the thread, panting heavily as I announce*: BREAKING ! SAD sacks releasing a diluvian torrent of pent-up concern about a thread none of them read more rapidly than anticipated !

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Zodium posted:

the english version is Marx in the Anthropocene.

this seems promising

quote:

The world is on fire. We are experiencing ‘the end of the end of history’. With the rapid deepening of the global ecological crisis in various forms such as climate change, oxidation of the ocean, disruption of the nitrogen cycle, desertification, soil erosion and loss of biodiversity, Francis Fukuyama’s declaration of ‘the end of history’ after the collapse of the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (Fukuyama 1992) is approaching a totally unexpected dead end today, namely the end of human history.

In fact, the triumph of neoliberal globalization only accelerated the rapid increase in environmental impacts upon the earth by human activities since the end of the Second World War – the so called ‘Great Acceleration’, the age in which all major socio-economic and Earth system trends record a hockey stick pattern of increase (McNeil and Engelke 2016) – and ultimately destabilized the foundation of human civilization. Pandemic, war and climate breakdown are all symptomatic of ‘the end of history’, putting democracy, capitalism and ecological systems into chronic crisis.

Many people are well aware of the fact that the current mode of living is heading towards catastrophe, but the capitalist system does not offer an alternative to the juggernaut of overproduction and overconsumption. Nor is there any compelling reason to believe that it will soon do so because capitalism’s systemic compulsion continues to employ fossil fuel consumption despite consistent warnings, knowledge and opposition. Considering the fact that rapid, deep decarbonization that could meet the 1.5-degree-Celsius target of the Paris Agreement requires thorough transformative changes in virtually every sphere of society, more radical social movements embracing direct action have emerged, demanding to uproot the capitalist system....

It is surely too naïve to believe that the further development of productive forces in Western capitalism could function as an emancipatory driver of history in the face of the global ecological crisis. In fact, the situation today differs decisively compared with that of 1848: capitalism is no longer progressive. It rather destroys the general conditions of production and reproduction and even subjects human and non-human beings to serious existential threat. In short, Marx’s view of historical progress appears hopelessly outdated. In this situation, if there is a slight hope of a revival of Marxism in this historical conjuncture, its essential precondition is the radical reformulation of its infamous grand scheme of ‘historical materialism’ that pivots around the contradiction between ‘productive forces’ and ‘relations of production’. This constitutes the central topics of this book in order not to end (human) history but to envision another clear, bright future from a Marxian perspective without falling into pessimism and apocalypticism in the face of global ecological crisis.

though lol at calling extinction rebellion a radical movement embracing direct action. it's a joke to diffuse actual unrest energy

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Stereotype posted:

drat i stood up to do this, beaten to the punch

lol a good goating shouldn't be edited out that's lame

Trixie Hardcore
Jul 1, 2006

Placeholder.
I’m sorry. You can googling it though.

fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3

Harik posted:

lol another one?

lmao at worrying bout the "mental health" of posters here when they're so freakishly obsessed

this, basically every post in that thread is deeply weird.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
Any book I see recommended here, I download.

The Ends of the World: Volcanic Apocalypses, Lethal Oceans, and Our Quest to Understand Earth's Past Mass Extinctions is my favorite so far

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
I bought the Marx in the anthropocene book to read after i finish Fathoms. Looks interesting.

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Xaris posted:

this seems promising

though lol at calling extinction rebellion a radical movement embracing direct action. it's a joke to diffuse actual unrest energy

maybe the japanese wing of it is hardcore? that is a pretty weird thing to put in at the start. it doesn't look like it's mentioned again. saying they do "direct action" is... i mean technically they do non-violent direct action by mildly to moderately inconveniencing people. stupid thing to say though.

zodium do you actually like kohei saito or is he kind of a goof? i'm skimming and i'm seeing malthusianism mentioned in the same paragraphs as monism, dualism, and ontological bullshit. does he have any more useful writing? or was this some twisted joke

quote:

This chapter, following Marx’s ecological analysis and method, defends his ecosocialist realism in a non-Cartesian manner against monist conceptions of the world. While many critiques of the Anthropocene narrative are valid, they do not immediately justify the claim that monism is superior to dualism in conceptualizing the current ecological crisis (I). The problem of monism becomes particularly visible when investigating influential discourses in current environmental geography. Prominent critiques of Cartesian dualism of Society and Nature in the Marxist tradition come from Neil Smith’s ‘production of nature’ and Jason W. Moore’s ‘world-ecology’. Although their reconceptualization of the human–nature relationship looks quite radical at first glance, a series of theoretical difficulties in these monist approaches become discernible upon closer examination.

loving philosopher guys

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 3 days!)

‘Mind-boggling’ methane emissions from Turkmenistan revealed

quote:

Methane leaks alone from Turkmenistan’s two main fossil fuel fields caused more global heating in 2022 than the entire carbon emissions of the UK, satellite data has revealed.

Emissions of the potent greenhouse gas from the oil- and gas-rich country are “mind-boggling”, and an “infuriating” problem that should be easy to fix, experts have told the Guardian.

The data produced by Kayrros for the Guardian found that the western fossil fuel field in Turkmenistan, on the Caspian coast, leaked 2.6m tonnes of methane in 2022. The eastern field emitted 1.8m tonnes. Together, the two fields released emissions equivalent to 366m tonnes of CO2, more than the UK’s annual emissions, which are the 17th-biggest in the world.

...

Most of the facilities leaking the methane were owned by Turkmenoil, the national oil company, Kayrros said. Further undetected methane emissions will be coming from Turkmenistan’s offshore oil and gas installations in the Caspian Sea, but the ability of satellites to measure methane leaks over water is still being developed.

Kayrros also did some high-resolution monitoring of the North Bugdayly field in western Turkmenistan. The number of super-emitter events there doubled to almost 60 between 2021 and 2022, with one recent super-emitter pouring out methane for almost six weeks.

lol

also

quote:

Turkmenistan is China’s biggest supplier of gas and is planning to double its exports to the country. Until 2018, Turkmen citizens had received free gas and electricity. However, the country is also very vulnerable to the impacts of the climate crisis, with the likelihood of severe drought projected to increase “very significantly” over the 21st century and yields of major crops expected to fall.

Hmm if they are China's biggest supplier and China cares so much about climate change, maybe glorious leader Xi should have a chat with the leader of Turkmenistan and get them to stop these methane emissions?

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
Two fields in Turkmenistan emit as much carbon as the UK?


Lol

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
americans are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Cuttlefush posted:

americans are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
hey im gonna read this interesting piece on liberal british newspaper the guardian about how a developing nation with natural gas reserves emits as much as the UK. I wont bother checking if their sources actually support that, I'll just assume that's accurate. turkmenistan sure is stupid for not being as developed as western nations. im gonna post this in the climate thread. im informed.

loving moron

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Microplastics posted:

Huh so there is. Here's the link in case anyone wants to defend the thread:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4031532&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
i’m proud to be quoted in the op as a headline example of a Bad Influence

Osv18
Jul 23, 2022

by vyelkin

Microplastics posted:

Huh so there is. Here's the link in case anyone wants to defend the thread:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4031532&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

the mind police have determined that, in fact, not thinking about bad thing makes bad thing go away.

Osv18
Jul 23, 2022

by vyelkin
only bad people think about bad thing,

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

another good whale book is “war of the whales”. why are the whales beaching all the time? because the us navy is obliterating their ears from sonar and bombs

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Harik posted:

lol another one?

lmao at worrying bout the "mental health" of posters here when they're so freakishly obsessed

https://twitter.com/TheVertlartnic/status/1650800650630967296

Posting in SAD is greater self harm than any amount of doom reading.

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fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3
everyone in this thread is crazy for making a big deal out of bad thing. also, it would be irresponsible to ask someone to mod this thread because it would drive them crazy to read about the bad thing that's not a big deal.

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