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BurningBeard posted:I haven’t followed the EA saga really, other than eyeballing a couple streams when it first came out there. I bounced off the first game because of the length/grind of it, but this seems far more up my street. Have they mentioned any console release plans down the line? Last I heard console releases were going to be early next year but they change that stuff all the time so who knows
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Heard it doesn't really work on Steam deck, no controller support OR cloud saves which is very disappointing to hear, hopefully a hotfix happens soon.
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oh nice 3 hours of achievement spam edit: howling end nerf! edit: shambler is buffed to high hell patch notes https://www.darkestdungeon.com/news/darkest-dungeon-ii-1-0-release-patch-notes/ temple fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 8, 2023 |
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New final fight is great. Gorgeous visuals of course, but also mechanically interesting and thematically satisfying. I like that the early access boss fights both do and don't prepare you.
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I'd love to try out the release patch but i cant get seem to get past the "Darkest Dungeon is about making the best out of a bad situation" screen after getting the game out of EA
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May 9, 2023 00:23
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Has anyone used the flagellant yet? My first impression is that it's pretty weak and actions that increase stress or reduce health are just awful in my opinion. It's like all of his skills already have the bad relationship outcome in advance and he will just be useless in any long fight like boss battles.
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May 9, 2023 00:30
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The whole metaprogression gating character abilities seems to make almost everyone's first impressions come off bad. Same with some of the trinkets opening up whole new ways to play.
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my first game into 1.0 and I actually did finish it on the first run lol. Got like 70ish candles so I was able to unlock all heroes to use for the future and am in the process for a 3rd run now. My initial impressions are that this is a VASTLY improved game. The relationship system is nothing like the incredibly bad "let me interrupt poo poo every other action and constantly torpedo your Stress levels" poo poo of Early Access--I loved how though it takes a while to boost positive relationships, the rewards for it are great. Furthermore, I love how now the good/bad relationships tie themselves to a specific "cursed" action (mostly the most used ones) which sometimes aren't even that bad to power through. On my first run I had a move each from Grobber and P'doctor as cursed but it wasn't too bad. I liked the bolstered stuff I got through the positive move buffs. The combos and movesets themselves just feel better overall--a lot of things feed into team synergy, supporting adjacent characters while dishing out bigger and better damage/effects. Heroes like Plague Doc and Man-At-Arms def feel like they can support even better through Stress heals/blocks and stuns. A fully kitted out character will now have some really great options and the additional new "paths" basically are great rewards for choosing specific moves in your set. The new candle system is really great, too--plenty to keep playing for and unlock, and feels like a "modern" roguelike akin to the unlocks for DD1 or Hades. Difference is you now just do combat/travel goals organically as opposed to farming for 3 or 4 different types of resource like in DD1---I actually really prefer just choosing what among all the unlocks to focus on, and you can use Candles for any of them. One thing I didn't expect was the addition of the Radiant Light, which is kind of like the God Mode stuff in Hades---essentially a guarantee that the game will frantically push you to victory on your next troubling run at the cost of less Candles, and the chance to win is buffed with each loss. I think poo poo like that is absolutely excellent and a great way to prevent massive burnout. Being able to unlock even more hosed up difficulties is neat too. Overall it's early but I feel like this is such a great baseline for a game I previously thought was an utter loving mess and just grossly unfun with the unlock system, relationship feature, and other annoying things that eventually got upturned with the entire table. The upheaval to everything actually worked and I'm actually really looking forward to the future of this game, it's already feeling tremendously more fun than before.
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I didn't play early access and was a bit wary about the big changes from DD1, but so far this looks good. I've yet to make it past two routes in Denial but I'm slowly getting comfortable with the new systems. Most of my deaths have been trying to do the lairs and getting completely destroyed by the bosses. I also ran into the shambler on my first real run and ended up softlocked with just a front row, unable to attack plague doctor and one add who couldn't kill me. It was funny. Glad the "abandon run" option is so generous.
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Regy Rusty posted:I didn't play early access and was a bit wary about the big changes from DD1, but so far this looks good. I've yet to make it past two routes in Denial but I'm slowly getting comfortable with the new systems. Most of my deaths have been trying to do the lairs and getting completely destroyed by the bosses. I also ran into the shambler on my first real run and ended up softlocked with just a front row, unable to attack plague doctor and one add who couldn't kill me. It was funny. Glad the "abandon run" option is so generous. I have been enjoying it too and especially the past few months. The gameplay is different but it's still very tactical and it hits all the same roguelike points, just in a different way. The graphics are amazing, especially the animation. They did a very good job of turning everything into 3d models while maintaining the same art style and I think it's easy to over look because they do it so well. As far as Lairs go, they're best avoided until you're prepared. The bosses in this game do not gently caress around! If you don't have enough skills mastered or if your team isn't optimized then you almost certainly die. Even with an ideal team, you'll sometimes get slammed with RNG in the worst way possible.
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One time I had the perfect team with great relationships and trinkets. Everything was going great for 2-3 hours until I came up to the first confessional. In the 3rd round, my plague doctor was sent to deaths door by a crit that was twice her total health and then died to the dot, effectively one shotted. On another run, I built a team that was optimized for the Cosmic bosses. The team was hot poo poo and on a roll and after the 3rd inn I decided to take on the boss in the tangle. It was an epic battle but I finally won...only to get wrecked by some trash mobs in the next node. The game is great and I love the token strategies where you can do stuff like stealing tokens from enemies, or stacking a bunch of negative tokens to get a bonus to healing. Some of the trinkets are wild too! You can end up generating 50% armor tokens for the whole team and then automatically convert them to 75% or the trinket that gives you +50% crit when in stealth combined with a trinket that has a 66% chance to put you in stealth at the beginning of every turn.
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Somehow my Man At Arms got a quirk that gave him 5hp healing every round, which is insane.
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The number of motherfuckers I've had die at 90% death resistance, goddamn. Not complaining, because  , but goddamn I am definitely whining. RIP to my MAA with 5 whole goddamn memories, which factoring in drug abuse and age is probably more than I've still got at this point. Goddamn.Cleared Ambition, who actually seemed like the easiest confession boss so far, currently digging into Cowardice. I'm not an achievement hound, but the achievements are definitely bugged, because I've done quite a few things on this latest run that didn't pop up. Still haven't tried the Flagellant! Think it's pretty cool that he's apparently some kind of blight zombie now. That's character growth, right there.
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Panfilo posted:Heard it doesn't really work on Steam deck, no controller support OR cloud saves which is very disappointing to hear, hopefully a hotfix happens soon. Update from Red Hook. quote:We wanted to answer a few of the most common questions we’ve been receiving in our forums.
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Stars take a while to die actually. But my favorite line so far is "War rewards only resignation," especially the delivery, although I'm still trying to decide what that means. It sounds pithy as gently caress, whatever it means. It's a thinker!
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welp, I had to erase my save file to have the game work, there goes that whole progression edit; oh no, it's the mouse lol the game doesnt register the mouse Honest Thief fucked around with this message at 09:48 on May 9, 2023 |
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May 9, 2023 09:46
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I'm digging the way unlocks work in DD2 - whilst it is a mild pain that abilities are only via shrines, I ADORE the little scenarios and art we get with them. The new Candles system makes me wonder how feasible it'd be to squish the resources in DD1 to one wildcard resource, and if any balance changes would be needed. As an aside, the fact it's candles made me wonder if Red Hook snuck in a certain reference to reckonings, and their resistance to being postponed somewhere.
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Oh is there a way to tell if a specific enemy type is one that can go to death's door? A few times I've found myself doing my DD1 thought process of "ok this enemy will die by dots on its next turn so I don't need to worry about it" only to forget that I need to be wary of death's door now.
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Popete posted:Update from Red Hook. I switched to Proton v 8 or something and that got it to work. Regy Rusty posted:Oh is there a way to tell if a specific enemy type is one that can go to death's door? A few times I've found myself doing my DD1 thought process of "ok this enemy will die by dots on its next turn so I don't need to worry about it" only to forget that I need to be wary of death's door now. The safest approach is DoT since dmg+DoT can bring the target to deaths door then finish them off on their turn. Aoe is also useful as well. They buffed Grave Robbers Glint in the Dark which is the only skill I think that can bypass deaths door so it's a good finisher if the target is low on health.
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ccubed posted:The whole metaprogression gating character abilities seems to make almost everyone's first impressions come off bad. Same with some of the trinkets opening up whole new ways to play. Which is strange to me, because the first time indid a shrine and learned the system I really liked it. Actual story chunks with thematic battles (after the first just a voice over) that unlocks the ability forever is a lot cooler than having to continually rebuy things over and over.
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Man people are review bombing the game on Steam it seems. I get the sense it is people butt hurt the game was an epic exclusive in early access. Had a lot of grognards gotten exactly what they wanted they'd be whining about paying forty bucks for a glorified DLC I guarantee.
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Death's door on enemies was and still is controversial but I like it. I think its more entertaining when enemies don't die immediately and you can't theorycraft the most broken builds to trivialize the game. It creates a new kind of utility to in checking DD or overcoming DD rez, which is makes the game more complex (heroes, skills, and items).
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temple posted:Death's door on enemies was and still is controversial but I like it. I think its more entertaining when enemies don't die immediately and you can't theorycraft the most broken builds to trivialize the game. It creates a new kind of utility to in checking DD or overcoming DD rez, which is makes the game more complex (heroes, skills, and items).
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Honestly I am mostly impressed I paid like R$ 26 for the game (about five dollars) instead of R$ 127 from buying it on Epic back in the day. Best deal ever.
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Panfilo posted:I absolutely agree. It means there's no such thing as overkill in many situations and allows for different strategies and counter play. Some bosses like Exemplar have a particularly high deathblow resist and it can be helpful to plan around it once you know this. I think it makes close battles more exciting and has the potential to open up new mechanics for enemies that are on deaths door. temple fucked around with this message at 13:47 on May 9, 2023 |
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Yesterday I managed to kill the dreaming general, then fought the Shambler by mistake (I didn't know!) and barely won only to get finished by an unskippable fight right after. I was almost there dammit.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yesterday I managed to kill the dreaming general, then fought the Shambler by mistake (I didn't know!) and barely won only to get finished by an unskippable fight right after. ShuffleFM says that the general won't kill you, its the fight after the general that does.
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temple posted:ShuffleFM says that the general won't kill you, its the fight after the general that does. Yeah but if I had known that choice meant fighting the Shambler, I probably would have gotten to the Inn. What are the upgrades to focus on first, aside from unlocking everybody?
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah but if I had known that choice meant fighting the Shambler, I probably would have gotten to the Inn.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah but if I had known that choice meant fighting the Shambler, I probably would have gotten to the Inn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56yP-HvV7zs tldw: unlock new heroes first (grave robber is the most replaceable of the initial 4) gacha: only splash leftover points here - if you get healing salves from combat items, you're pretty much done with that category that's just the point-based metaprogression there's the hero stories that unlock skills that require playing/routing
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Regy Rusty posted:Oh is there a way to tell if a specific enemy type is one that can go to death's door? A few times I've found myself doing my DD1 thought process of "ok this enemy will die by dots on its next turn so I don't need to worry about it" only to forget that I need to be wary of death's door now. Death resistance is a stat and you can see it by hovering your mouse over an enemy and then looking at the resistance stats at the bottom of the screen. It's the right most stat that has the red skull icon. Most enemies won't have any death resistance and die right away while others will have 5% resistance and take a dozen hits.
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Good priority in my opinion: Wagon upgrade to get more candles, more armor/wheels, better pickups better capacity Node upgrades as this can carry you quite a bit over a run. Unlock new heroes so you can in turn unlock their skills at shrines. Chapter 1,3,and 5 I believe are "freebies" that don't require a little mission to earn though most of the heroes first mission is really easy.
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Gyoru posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56yP-HvV7zs Did they nerf her? The Grave Robber used to be by far the strongest character in the beta version, with good damage output and the best self-healing.
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Chamale posted:Did they nerf her? The Grave Robber used to be by far the strongest character in the beta version, with good damage output and the best self-healing.
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RVWinkle posted:Death resistance is a stat and you can see it by hovering your mouse over an enemy and then looking at the resistance stats at the bottom of the screen. It's the right most stat that has the red skull icon. Most enemies won't have any death resistance and die right away while others will have 5% resistance and take a dozen hits. Oh I see! I think I didn't quite realize what that stat actually implied. I really wanna dig into this game over the next couple days before TotK takes over my life.
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Panfilo posted:Good priority in my opinion: Also want to unlock at least a few heroes right away because they can randomly join your party if one of your members bite it once you reach an inn.
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temple posted:Consensus is that she isn't strong. Her damage is nerfed in 1.0. She's good with the right path. I think she's way better than people say. People probably gonna choose Flagellant for the role of "blight damage/uses corpses" but I found her blight needles really reliable damage, self-reliant with heals, and can put out pretty good damage with the crit on her pick/comboing with knives. I haven't unlocked much of her other skills though. I still haven't seen Bounty Hunter show up at all, drat.
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DLC Inc posted:People probably gonna choose Flagellant for the role of "blight damage/uses corpses" but I found her blight needles really reliable damage, self-reliant with heals, and can put out pretty good damage with the crit on her pick/comboing with knives. I haven't unlocked much of her other skills though. huh, did you click his picture? i played for months and never noticed.
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is there a mod or save I can download to unlock all the metaprogression poo poo for the characters? I really don't grind with limited skills/paths again.
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