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That sucks I think I got the bird week 1
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yeah there's several dungeon drop minions I'm missing but every time I contemplate farming them I just run off the game
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May 9, 2023 21:38
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Re: difficulty they should at the very least make tankbusters in EX require cooldowns, the one in the newest EX is pathetic and i don’t think could even kill a healer
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May 9, 2023 21:39
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Firebert posted:Re: difficulty they should at the very least make tankbusters in EX require cooldowns, the one in the newest EX is pathetic and i don’t think could even kill a healer Confirmed. I lived the big fuckoff cleave TB as a sage. Had a crit shield but still handily took it.
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May 9, 2023 21:40
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Kerrzhe posted:the only dungeon i've done since the last MSQ patch is Dead Ends and i've got my trust runs at a pretty consistent 22 minutes as Reaper and i will get that loving bird one day One day right? 
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May 9, 2023 21:50
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I'd argue that the tail end of Shadowbringers and onto Endwalker in general is already doing "make dungeon boss mechanics more engaging." Also remember than in addition to being for less sweaty players, dungeons have to reintroduce old mechanics that newer players have not actually seen due to bosses dying faster or being in old optional content. Those bored of savage raiding and eyeing ultimates are likely not able to tell from their lofty heights.
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May 9, 2023 22:09
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TheWorldsaStage posted:One day right? i can't give up hope... i must keep forging ahead...
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May 9, 2023 22:10
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S.J. posted:That sucks I think I got the bird week 1 I got it from my first run for the MSQ. Never realized how lucky I was until I saw people post about never getting it after dozens of runs.
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May 9, 2023 22:11
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I got it from my first run for the MSQ. Never realized how lucky I was until I saw people post about never getting it after dozens of runs. Oh that hurts my soul It just.wont.drop
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May 9, 2023 22:12
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It's weird that the latter couple minions are locked out of the marketboard. I don't think any other dungeon minion drops ever were.
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May 9, 2023 22:16
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That one is kind of special so I get it. Also it's making skilled healers grit their teeth and queue for it which is a blessing to everyone else in there. At least when I'm in the healer seat I can unfuck things rather than watch helplessly as a dps while it all falls apart.
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May 9, 2023 22:21
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GloomMouse posted:I'd argue that the tail end of Shadowbringers and onto Endwalker in general is already doing "make dungeon boss mechanics more engaging." Also remember than in addition to being for less sweaty players, dungeons have to reintroduce old mechanics that newer players have not actually seen due to bosses dying faster or being in old optional content. Those bored of savage raiding and eyeing ultimates are likely not able to tell from their lofty heights. they've definitely put out some banger dungeon bosses more recently and i do appreciate it. i can tell because of how often i get dropped into forty minute in-progress runs 
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May 9, 2023 22:31
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Weirdly I feel like the later content is much easier than earlier stuff, I suppose depending on the jobs. Most classes don't really come online until level 70, and once they do have their toolkit everything is much more manageable from there. There's a range from like the upper 50's to 70 where things can be a bit dicey just because the classes haven't unlocked all their skills. Leveling Astrologian right now, which I dislike, and part of it is that at level 50 I have exactly one oGCD heal. bobtheconqueror fucked around with this message at 22:37 on May 9, 2023 |
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May 9, 2023 22:35
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I feel like dungeon mechanics are more engaging and fun, but also easier because the game is better at making mechanics clear than it used to be. I still don't know what most of the bespoke floor symbols and icons mean in older content.
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bobtheconqueror posted:Weirdly I feel like the later content is much easier than earlier stuff, I suppose depending on the jobs. Most classes don't really come online until level 70, and once they do have their toolkit everything is much more manageable from there. yeah, the increase in mechanical difficulty (for some bosses, at least) is offset by the fact that healers and tanks are bursting at the seams with instant heals and mits now and it's complete overkill for any normal content unavoidable damage is still used very sparingly so mostly you're just slamming all your resources into that one dps who makes it their mission to stand in every aoe they can reach Oneiros fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 9, 2023 |
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May 9, 2023 22:53
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While we're wish listing, I wish they'd pull some walls out and allow for mega pulls now and then. Pulling the entire set up until the first boss of Mt. Gulg, and then the big pull between 2nd and big chungus before the last boss. Most groups don't go for them, and I've never seen any pressure to go for them, but when they do and they work out it's art.
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May 9, 2023 23:06
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Actually scratch that. My wish is for dungeons to never have bosses that are just waves of weak trash ever again.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Actually scratch that. My wish is for dungeons to never have bosses that are just waves of weak trash ever again. It's very annoying! We already have trash! We don't need extra-boring trash replacing a boss!
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May 9, 2023 23:44
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Amusingly, those seem like they're intended to encourage proper use of aoe in dungeons.
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May 9, 2023 23:45
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The next tier of Pandaemonium will only be endless waves of trash mobs.
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May 9, 2023 23:46
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Lord_Magmar posted:Amusingly, those seem like they're intended to encourage proper use of aoe in dungeons. Troia is definitely an aoe dungeon. I never get off so many lightnings anywhere else as I do in there, it feels great
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May 9, 2023 23:49
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May 9, 2023 23:50
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Sound like what you guys want is a survival mode type deep dungeon where instead of going down a bunch of levels you stay in place and fight increasingly large and varied numbers of mobs.
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May 9, 2023 23:51
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:It's weird that the latter couple minions are locked out of the marketboard. I don't think any other dungeon minion drops ever were. The Shoebill also requires suffering. Or rather it did- now it's in sacks from EO but you used to have to get it from Amaurot
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mikemil828 posted:Sound like what you guys want is a survival mode type deep dungeon where instead of going down a bunch of levels you stay in place and fight increasingly large and varied numbers of mobs. Honestly something like a time trial challenge mode would be cool. Just sending stronger and stronger stuff with the understanding that you'll eventually die, but with increasing rewards the longer you stay alive, maybe with a boss type fight every 10 or 15 minutes.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:While we're wish listing, I wish they'd pull some walls out and allow for mega pulls now and then. Pulling the entire set up until the first boss of Mt. Gulg, and then the big pull between 2nd and big chungus before the last boss. Most groups don't go for them, and I've never seen any pressure to go for them, but when they do and they work out it's art. I liked the Paglth'an (I think?) section where the wall between pack 1+2 and pack 3+4 has HP and you can opt to kill it quickly to do a 4-pack megapull. It's also the section where I've gotten yelled at the most by tanks for rescuing them next to said wall if they decide to park themselves and their mobs far away from it for some reason.
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May 10, 2023 00:04
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There's a few dungeons like that with destructible walls between pulls. It's neat, although I'm 100% fine with the current pacing myself.
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Xerophyte posted:I liked the Paglth'an (I think?) section where the wall between pack 1+2 and pack 3+4 has HP and you can opt to kill it quickly to do a 4-pack megapull. There are also two defenseless Amal'jaa on the other side of that wall who die if you don't break through it quickly, but you can save them 
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May 10, 2023 00:14
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Going forward, ALL new dungeons will have an Enrage mechanic on EVERY boss. If you don't kill the boss in time, the enrage explodes your computer.
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May 10, 2023 00:19
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FuturePastNow posted:healer LB3 is required on day one of every new alliance raid Not always successful mind you. Wait I am thinking of a normal raid where it all went wrong. p4 all but the healer were knocked into the death wall, Healer LB3 raised... at the deathwall so we died instantly again. It was hilarious
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May 10, 2023 00:24
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Twibbit posted:Not always successful mind you. Wait I am thinking of a normal raid where it all went wrong. Yeah, IIRC healer LB3 doesn't do the "bring the rezzed person to where the healer is" thing that regular rezzes do, so rez targets in the deathwall will just immediately die again
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May 10, 2023 00:26
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Kheldarn posted:Going forward, ALL new dungeons will have an Enrage mechanic on EVERY boss. If you don't kill the boss in time, the enrage explodes your computer. replace every boss with deathgaze hollow
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May 10, 2023 00:41
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Deathgaze Hollow but in walled arenas, so no ringouts, just really annoyed melee
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May 10, 2023 00:43
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:It's weird that the latter couple minions are locked out of the marketboard. I don't think any other dungeon minion drops ever were. IIRC Brina from the Antitower is now the only minion that isn't marketable and only drops from a pre-EW dungeon.
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May 10, 2023 01:04
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was thinkin' 'bout this thread as i just ran the back half of the last dungeon without a tank at all, mob pulls and bosses both. the busters couldn't even kill a machinist, lmao
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Oneiros posted:was thinkin' 'bout this thread as i just ran the back half of the last dungeon without a tank at all, mob pulls and bosses both. the busters couldn't even kill a machinist, lmao Sounds like we need to nerf healers and DPS so tanks don't feel useless.
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May 10, 2023 01:50
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TBF MCH has a decent amount of mitigation for a DPS. As BLM, whenever I get tankbuster’d I go splat, Manaward or no Manaward. There’s just not any physical defense on caster gear.
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May 10, 2023 01:54
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thankfully i'm dogshit at blm so the mch was taking most of the heat. i make enough of a mess of my rotation without autos interrupting my casts constantly
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May 10, 2023 01:56
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another 4 runs of dead ends and no bird to live is to suffer and to suffer is to grow stronger at doing my reaper rotation i guess
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DPS mechanics are the general fight mechanics. Tank mechanics are those plus tankbusters. Healer mechanics are those plus other players.
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