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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

baizhu is one of the best characters in the game but he came right after nahida who is the actual best character in the game, and also they already released yaoyao so even 'dendro healer' isnt a new niche.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

a lot of the interest in baizhu was operating on the assumption that he'd be the first or one of the first dendro characters we got. instead he's a slight upgrade over an existing 4*.

and design/character-wise he was one of the few Hot Guys in the game at launch but even in terms of dendro characters kaveh and alhaitham both exist now.

also star rail is probably eating up a lot of people's attention.

haypliss
Oct 2, 2022

MarcusSA posted:

I saw a good video that shows him with Nahida and it’s pretty bonkers damage.

I've definitely seen him with Nahida and yeah her damage can make other characters look pretty good, but it's her damage. His healing utility ended up kind of weirdly delayed and already covered by Yaoyao, his shielding is gimmicky, and his personal damage sucks. Not a fan of how his normals actually feel to even care for using him as driver for characters who actually do damage either.

Ofc this stuff is all incredibly flavorful in terms of his character and lore but that isn't going to make me like dealing with it as gameplay. I legit have a 5* guarantee I will just be letting roll into Fontaine for someone else.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Endorph posted:

a lot of the interest in baizhu was operating on the assumption that he'd be the first or one of the first dendro characters we got. instead he's a slight upgrade over an existing 4*.

and design/character-wise he was one of the few Hot Guys in the game at launch but even in terms of dendro characters kaveh and alhaitham both exist now.

also star rail is probably eating up a lot of people's attention.

Yeah putting him on the second banner after Star Rail launches was a decision. Sent out to die, especially when he partners with Ganyu to give you one of the worst weapon banners of all time.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
His shielding is functionally really good and the healing delay doesnt matter (speaking as someone who plays the most suicidal character cyno, cyno is up 10,000 health and shielded by the time his burst animation ends). It's gimmicky I guess but isnt gimmicky a good thing when it's still performant?

I'm not trying to shill baizhu I really don't care how many people own him it just felt like a lot of people really dont want to see any good in him while other characters get cut a ton of slack.

Also I cant be the only one who thinks he feels way better on field than nahida right? Just being tall is a huge upside. Al haitham feels better than both ofc.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:01 on May 10, 2023

haypliss
Oct 2, 2022

No Wave posted:

His shielding is functionally really good and the healing delay doesnt matter (speaking as someone who plays the most suicidal character cyno, cyno is up 10,000 health and shielded by the time his burst animation ends). It's gimmicky I guess but isnt gimmicky a good thing when it's still performant?

I'm not trying to shill baizhu I really don't care how many people own him it just felt like a lot of people really dont want to see any good in him while other characters get cut a ton of slack.

I don't see enough good in him for my account and what I want from new characters. The gimmicks don't make him play differently or interestingly enough. Especially because I don't have Cyno there really isn't anything I've seen that feels like I would need or want him to do it. I can agree he feels better than Nahida onfield, but I only have used her sparingly and as quickswap while yeah I'm just obsessed with how good Alhaitham feels to play.

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Eimi posted:

Yeah putting him on the second banner after Star Rail launches was a decision. Sent out to die, especially when he partners with Ganyu to give you one of the worst weapon banners of all time.

Don't forget putting him after a Nahida rerun, too. I can't speak for everyone, but I burned a lot of primo in order to pull her, so I'm back to stockpiling for the next character I want. Maybe I'll pull on his banner before it goes away, but I'll be hoping for Kaveh or Candace over him tbh

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
his ult doesn't require him to stay on field like Yaoyao's, does it? mechanically that's all i need from Yaoyao 2

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
He's boring. Possibly the most boring limited 5* in the game. Killed most of the hype I had for him, especially after how long he was baking.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

his ult doesn't require him to stay on field like Yaoyao's, does it? mechanically that's all i need from Yaoyao 2

it doesnt no

Kale
May 14, 2010

Shinji2015 posted:

Don't forget putting him after a Nahida rerun, too. I can't speak for everyone, but I burned a lot of primo in order to pull her, so I'm back to stockpiling for the next character I want. Maybe I'll pull on his banner before it goes away, but I'll be hoping for Kaveh or Candace over him tbh

Nilou for me. I still have like 18Kish adding my crystals to my gems but I want to save that till after the big Fontaine reveal package atm

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
Aside from taking a millennium to actually come out, I cannot stand that baizhu's got a coat fastened around his neck backwards. Not only is he dull, he doesn't know how coats work.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Zenostein posted:

Not only is he dull, he doesn't know how coats work.

Certainly not a precedent in this game -

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

No Wave posted:

I am a bit surprised by just how little interest there is in Baizhu, um, everywhere.

?!?

https://twitter.com/mihych/status/1654215289855258628

https://twitter.com/PlaHill7/status/1654833737862086661

https://twitter.com/yapc03/status/1654840441764970497

https://twitter.com/tooaya/status/1653519736708403202

https://twitter.com/Claire_Rugs/status/1653678535280676864

https://twitter.com/seazulle/status/1653035483260407814

https://twitter.com/mayuma_0715/status/1655115380220899329

https://twitter.com/DottoreDoodles/status/1655026640425201665

https://twitter.com/BCfish707/status/1654700095504277504

https://twitter.com/GEPpitLwXckBfzy/status/1654573652791418881

https://twitter.com/dendrosdaily/status/1654247062966349824

https://twitter.com/cha_hanare/status/1654075913578119168

https://twitter.com/dendrosdaily/status/1654338451779510272

https://twitter.com/Paimon2theMoon/status/1654018017460916227

https://twitter.com/_larhi/status/1653826909405315072

https://twitter.com/taqoou/status/1653407986218569728

https://twitter.com/darkavey/status/1653407298281422848

https://twitter.com/4uon25/status/1652978031479369728

https://twitter.com/Annshiro76/status/1653335838212882432

https://twitter.com/dendrosdaily/status/1653150436378005504

https://twitter.com/nirvelia_/status/1654794382103711745

sushibandit
Feb 12, 2009

Please don't embed like 50 twitter posts in a message. Twitter is dogshit, and also tons of embeds have a not-unsubstantial performance/memory hit.

A screenshot of a twitter search with the number of results would have sufficed if you must reference the platform to win internet arguments.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

sushibandit posted:

Please don't embed like 50 twitter posts in a message. Twitter is dogshit, and also tons of embeds have a not-unsubstantial performance/memory hit.

A screenshot of a twitter search with the number of results would have sufficed if you must reference the platform to win internet arguments.

wdym; I love having my browser continually move my position on the page every time one of those tweets loads over the course of a full minute.

Happy Underpants
Jul 23, 2007
I rolled for a gay wizard and by god I got a gay wizard, haters can gently caress off.

Also the notion that some sliver of the fan base is nervous about ladies liking a game is just adorable. I need to go through my steam library to make sure I'm not playing games for ladies lest I be spoken ill of in the tiktok comments.

avoraciopoctules
Oct 22, 2012

What is this kid's DEAL?!

If posting loads of links to cool fanart on twitter is no longer fashionable, it's probably better if I un-sticky the thread. I don't think I would remember to take this place off the list for reblogging cool stuff otherwise. Best wishes, I hope y'all have an excellent time with Genshin!

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Happy Underpants posted:

I rolled for a gay wizard and by god I got a gay wizard, haters can gently caress off.

Also the notion that some sliver of the fan base is nervous about ladies liking a game is just adorable. I need to go through my steam library to make sure I'm not playing games for ladies lest I be spoken ill of in the tiktok comments.

hope they dont get cooties all over my gay anime game

anyway i think people always liked baizhu as a character he was just in the background for two years and now he's just Another Good Dendro which isn't a bad place to be but after All Other Good Dendros it isn't a very exciting one

Brutor Fartknocker
Jun 18, 2013


avoraciopoctules posted:

If posting loads of links to cool fanart on twitter is no longer fashionable, it's probably better if I un-sticky the thread. I don't think I would remember to take this place off the list for reblogging cool stuff otherwise. Best wishes, I hope y'all have an excellent time with Genshin!

:justpost:

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
I wanted Baizhu but I'm not sure I want to keep wishing for him. After recently blowing 150 wishes on Al-Haitham, 84 on Yelan, 155 on Shenhe, and now 137 (so far) for Baizhu I'm running low on primos while asking myself "Is Baizhu still worth it?"


  • Hearing how Baizhu doesn't shield without his burst up wasn't much of a selling point
  • I don't have Cyno or Nilou
  • Not a fan of Kokomi sharing her proto amber catalyst with Baizhu
  • People didn't expect much with Baizhu

Has Baizhu exceeded expectations? If expectations weren't super high and Baizhu turned out surprisingly good people would talk about it. There's characters like Nahida or Yelan where people expected them to be insanely overpowered and they delivered on that. Then there's characters like Yae Miko or Tighnari who I wasn't expecting a lot from but was pleasantly surprised to find they are quality 5* characters. Maybe I should just grab Baizhu and find out. So far the only 5* character I truly regret wishing for is Shenhe. :(

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Thanks

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

I like cool art posts but that was slightly too much art lol. Important to note that some people in 2023 do still have crap internet so 30 tweets in one post can gently caress them.

Endorph fucked around with this message at 02:04 on May 11, 2023

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sanctum posted:

I wanted Baizhu but I'm not sure I want to keep wishing for him. After recently blowing 150 wishes on Al-Haitham, 84 on Yelan, 155 on Shenhe, and now 137 (so far) for Baizhu I'm running low on primos while asking myself "Is Baizhu still worth it?"


  • Hearing how Baizhu doesn't shield without his burst up wasn't much of a selling point
  • I don't have Cyno or Nilou
  • Not a fan of Kokomi sharing her proto amber catalyst with Baizhu
  • People didn't expect much with Baizhu

Has Baizhu exceeded expectations? If expectations weren't super high and Baizhu turned out surprisingly good people would talk about it. There's characters like Nahida or Yelan where people expected them to be insanely overpowered and they delivered on that. Then there's characters like Yae Miko or Tighnari who I wasn't expecting a lot from but was pleasantly surprised to find they are quality 5* characters. Maybe I should just grab Baizhu and find out. So far the only 5* character I truly regret wishing for is Shenhe. :(
Baizhu is an insanely, insanely strong character. Dendro is busted and he makes any team hes on functionally immortal.

That said he doesnt shield at all without his burst and his shield is more blocking a single hit and then refreshing a few seconds later than zhongli literal godmode

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Mordiceius posted:

Certainly not a precedent in this game -


totally different, she's sewn that onto her blouse, and it's facing the correct way.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

As a complete newbie to Genshin Impact I really want snake man just because he's my first banner so to speak. I'm praying the gatcha is nice to me before he goes away.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

If you're early in the game you should get enough stuff to get him assuming you play pretty regularly.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Endorph posted:

If you're early in the game you should get enough stuff to get him assuming you play pretty regularly.

Oh I hope so! His design is really nice.

Also while I'm thinking of wishing, I'd LOVE to have literally anyone else who is ranged and can shoot arrows or something. Amber is nice but I hate her ribbon, and I'm also the type of player who swaps characters around in my party constantly.

Maxwells Demon
Jan 15, 2007


For me I used a lot of wishes on the previous banner because I was excited about the 4*'s Constellations (mainly Kuki) on that one and did not mind at all when I won the 50/50 for Nilou since she's got interesting gameplay.

So I'm happy to roll a bit for Baizhu but definitely spent a lot of my roll on the previous banner. Nice to get Kaveh

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
I pulled baizhu and I'm going to make him a dps and no one can stop me

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

StrixNebulosa posted:

Oh I hope so! His design is really nice.

Also while I'm thinking of wishing, I'd LOVE to have literally anyone else who is ranged and can shoot arrows or something. Amber is nice but I hate her ribbon, and I'm also the type of player who swaps characters around in my party constantly.

fischl is a bow character, extremely good, and on the current banner

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

yeah if you get fischl shes a legitimately great character in every sense of the word and works well with almost anyone. her gimmick is just her bird buddy that she throws out who basically functions as a turret even when you switch to a different character.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Oz is her stand.
https://twitter.com/daifukuart/status/1314507930834673665

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


she's also chuuni as gently caress if that's your bag

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

StrixNebulosa posted:

As a complete newbie to Genshin Impact I really want snake man just because he's my first banner so to speak. I'm praying the gatcha is nice to me before he goes away.

He's a strong and useful character to have. Genshin players tend to be hyperbolic, and also evaluate a character from the perspective of "I have a fully built roster. What does this character do better than any other I have?"
As a new player his banner is great to roll on, since it also has one of the most valuable 4 star off field damage units and another dendro damage character.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

UHD posted:

she's also chuuni as gently caress if that's your bag

I created another universe and founded paradise

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

valuum posted:

Not to mention that you have to do that click to have it load something so that you can then click to start the game. I absolutely love that trend.

When I had to load it on my ancient phone to get the storyteller cheevo I had to rig a setup where the phone was plugged in on top of an air conditioner output because all the updates are pulled down via the app while a 3d scene continuously animates. I'm not sure if it's dumber there (where bandwidth/power limitations exist) or on PC where there's already a launcher that already handles updates.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

his ult doesn't require him to stay on field like Yaoyao's, does it? mechanically that's all i need from Yaoyao 2

I'm in pretty much the same situation I was at Koko's release where I'm wondering what peoples' requirements are because "uniquely fits into one or more teams I want" is like my #1 top qualifier for spending gems. I could run with Al instead of Kaveh, or Yaoyao instead of Baizhu, but it wouldn't be as good of a team.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Coolness Averted posted:

He's a strong and useful character to have. Genshin players tend to be hyperbolic, and also evaluate a character from the perspective of "I have a fully built roster. What does this character do better than any other I have?"
As a new player his banner is great to roll on, since it also has one of the most valuable 4 star off field damage units and another dendro damage character.

Yeah, I’m familiar with this trend from Fate/GO banners. Most units are good to great! Almost all 4/5 stars are amazing! (sthenoooo) But new character X sucks because they’re not meta busted or whatever.

Who are the other units you’re talking about for this banner?

MoonCrab
Nov 19, 2014

A mildly pertubed emoji face
Friends, do not be deceived. Baizhu is not wearing a coat in a dumb way. He is wearing a cape. With like, ornamental sleeves, or something?
There is NO way to put your arms through those sleeves in a way that ends up comfortable.

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UHD
Nov 11, 2006


MoonCrab posted:

Friends, do not be deceived. Baizhu is not wearing a coat in a dumb way. He is wearing a cape. With like, ornamental sleeves, or something?
There is NO way to put your arms through those sleeves in a way that ends up comfortable.

as if that ever stopped anime

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