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Personally, I think Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot (again) on the debt ceiling. Add things like border security or immigration reform is just going to muddy the waters even more. If you want to talk spending cuts with the debt ceiling, you can probably convince some people to be on your side, but with two weeks to go and now they're going to add onto demands and for things that aren't budget related, now they just look like they don't want to make a deal at all. I figured they really didn't want to make a deal beforehand, but now it seems obvious. I don't see how this is a winning issue for them, and I really hope Republicans learn that without crashing the economy first.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Someone just attacked Congressman Gerry Connolly's office in Virginia looking for the Congressman. Connolly's been an elected official in Fairfax County for so long he even has a 40 mile hiking trail named after him
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:WaPo also saying that White House demands that they close 13 tax loopholes and count the revenue raised from that as part of the deficit reduction was also part of the breakdown. House Republicans are united in insisting that no new revenue be raised. It never stops being funny that the party who insists government spending should work like household spending consistently demands, in their analogy, that the government should refuse to pay their credit card bills or take a raise when trying to deal with their crippling debt. Bird in a Blender posted:Personally, I think Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot (again) on the debt ceiling. Add things like border security or immigration reform is just going to muddy the waters even more. If you want to talk spending cuts with the debt ceiling, you can probably convince some people to be on your side, but with two weeks to go and now they're going to add onto demands and for things that aren't budget related, now they just look like they don't want to make a deal at all. I figured they really didn't want to make a deal beforehand, but now it seems obvious. I don't see how this is a winning issue for them, and I really hope Republicans learn that without crashing the economy first. It's because they have such a slim majority, and McCarthy pawned off everything in sight to be speaker. So every insane wahoo who managed to get elected gets to demand their pet issue also get thrown in the pot. The Republicans never actually have a strong hand in the popular opinion on their idiotic debt fights, but I also can't think of a single time in my life where they haven't managed to make their debt ceiling or government shutdown position worse over time. They just can't help but use their fiscal temper tantrums to try and get unrelated poo poo that would never pass through.
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Kale posted:I can't wait to see his first debates with Trump in the primaries. No way he can keep up with that guys sheer bluster and some big loud rear end in a top hat actually pushing back on and talking over him constantly versus the other way around. If he actually thinks the bulk of GOP voters give two fucks about results so much as reciting the magic culture war words loudest out of anyone in the pack he is in the wrong party like sorry. You can just make poo poo the gently caress up if you need, which is what Trump will do when he bluster steamrolls his ticket over him with a base that just plain doesnt give a loving real poo poo beyond hearing the main himself say the lines. Trump has said that he has no intention of debating challengers--just as Biden isn't planning to debate Williamson, Kennedy, or anyone else who announces. (I think that'll even go beyond the primaries & at least one will refuse to debate the other after the nominations are made. My hunch is on Biden refusing bc of some excuse like not wanting to "platform" Trump's views.)
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Someone just attacked Congressman Gerry Connolly's office in Virginia looking for the Congressman. Looks like the dude who did this is extra cooked: (Ben Collins is a nbc reporter) https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1658207263566311426 
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Doesn't this disproportionately hurt employers (especially farmers) in the south since they tend to use undocumented workers so they can pay them less? (I get it, they're proposing it because it will hurt "the others" more, but still, even they should be able to see this makes things worse all around.)
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Velocity Raptor posted:Doesn't this disproportionately hurt employers (especially farmers) in the south since they tend to use undocumented workers so they can pay them less? (I get it, they're proposing it because it will hurt "the others" more, but still, even they should be able to see this makes things worse all around.) Yes. Every time they crack down on undocumenteds in agricultural areas, the farm owners get badly hurt because no citizen wants to work under those conditions and that pay
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May 15, 2023 21:49
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Has anyone found a workaround for Archive.is since it went down? This appears to be the underlying proposal- weird that it's only getting coverage now that the comment period has ended. https://www.fns.usda.gov/cn/proposed-updates-school-nutrition-standards https://www.fns.usda.gov/cn/fr-020723 Without digging into it, it's got the same added sugars bullshit as usual, but I can't speak to other elements.
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haveblue posted:Yes. Every time they crack down on undocumenteds in agricultural areas, the farm owners get badly hurt because no citizen wants to work under those conditions and that pay They don't care if it hurts them as long as racism wins.
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Velocity Raptor posted:Doesn't this disproportionately hurt employers (especially farmers) in the south since they tend to use undocumented workers so they can pay them less? (I get it, they're proposing it because it will hurt "the others" more, but still, even they should be able to see this makes things worse all around.) It's also the one thing that could actually be done to both combat illegal immigration AND benefit legal immigrants AND pressure the government to provide a clear path to citizenship AND lots of other stuff. The Republicans have previously killed it after their wealthy backers pointed out they utterly depend on it, from rich trust fund kids building a fancy mansion to farmers running small farms, they all use the labour it would make illegal.
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Push El Burrito posted:They don't care if it hurts them as long as racism wins. Well, that and the threat of it keeps the workers in line. There's a line they walk where workers have to be able to be immediately deported with a single phone call while the worksite gets at worst a slap on the wrist. Otherwise the undocumented workers might get crazy ideas like "unionizing" or "asking for basic worker protections" or "being paid a reasonable amount". Depending on how severe the penalties for failing this system are it'll either keep that line going or cripple their agricultural sector.
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Willa Rogers posted:Trump has said that he has no intention of debating challengers--just as Biden isn't planning to debate Williamson, Kennedy, or anyone else who announces. I'm not sure whether or not he'll stick to his no debates stance. Being a huge bully to a group of absolute losers while the crowd cheers is like his version of heaven. Assuming Ivanka brings him Diet Cokes during commercial breaks. Velocity Raptor posted:Doesn't this disproportionately hurt employers (especially farmers) in the south since they tend to use undocumented workers so they can pay them less? (I get it, they're proposing it because it will hurt "the others" more, but still, even they should be able to see this makes things worse all around.) I mean technically, but I don't know that I want to frame it as hurting employers when we're stepping on their ability to exploit the absolute ever-living poo poo out of people.
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Kalli posted:Looks like the dude who did this is extra cooked: (Ben Collins is a nbc reporter) Local congressional staff are especially vulnerable to crazies. Cap police don't keep a presence much outside DC.
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Kalli posted:Looks like the dude who did this is extra cooked: (Ben Collins is a nbc reporter) I mean I am 99% sure CIA didn't do it, but every other organization I am 100% sure about so that is still a condemnation of CIA.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I figured they really didn't want to make a deal beforehand, but now it seems obvious. I don't see how this is a winning issue for them, and I really hope Republicans learn that without crashing the economy first. It's a winning issue for them because if there's a default and the economy crashes people are going to blame Biden. Most people don't pay attention to any of this inside baseball politics stuff. They are just going to see the economy crashing down around them on Bidens watch. And even the few pay that pay attention maybe a little bit? They are just going to be wondering why they have now lost their jobs all because Biden wouldn't sign off on making welfare people have to work for their welfare or whatever else their local (Sinclair owned) news station tells them. And well doggoneit they never even heard of this debt limit thing during the Trump years so obviously he was a better president and the election is right around the corner and he's running again so... That's why its a winning issue.
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Gyges posted:I'm not sure whether or not he'll stick to his no debates stance. Being a huge bully to a group of absolute losers while the crowd cheers is like his version of heaven. Assuming Ivanka brings him Diet Cokes during commercial breaks. Trump gets that from his rallies, and without pesky questions. If the polling showing the margin between Trump & DeSantis continuing to mirror the same sort of margin as between Biden & Kennedy I think he'll stick to his pledge to not debate, for similar reasons to Biden not engaging in primary debates. (Why give your opponents air, or airtime, when you're leading by so much?) eta: If, on the other hand, the Trump-DeSantis spread tightens up then I could see him debating. (I doubt that Biden will ever debate Kennedy, though.)
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Biden just needs to mint the coin already if the GOP is going to ask for ridiculous things over something like this
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Gyges posted:I mean technically, but I don't know that I want to frame it as hurting employers when we're stepping on their ability to exploit the absolute ever-living poo poo out of people. Sorry, I should've clarified that I meant "farmers in the south" as in "business owners in red states", which is who the GOP tends to listen to.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Biden just needs to mint the coin already if the GOP is going to ask for ridiculous things over something like this I thought that everyone from Biden to Yellen to Powell have ruled that out, though.
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Willa Rogers posted:I thought that everyone from Biden to Yellen to Powell have ruled that out, though.
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Velocity Raptor posted:Doesn't this disproportionately hurt employers (especially farmers) in the south since they tend to use undocumented workers so they can pay them less? (I get it, they're proposing it because it will hurt "the others" more, but still, even they should be able to see this makes things worse all around.) The white nationalists are running the show now, and they don't actually give a poo poo what happens to business owners. It's the same thing as every other culture war issue the big-business Republicans pushed. They spent decades dangling bait in front of the bigots to buy support for their economic policies, but in the end, the bigots yanked that bait so hard that the fishermen got dragged into the water and now the bigots can gorge themselves on the whole drat bait box without any regard for the hapless fishermen drowning in the background.
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Charliegrs posted:It's a winning issue for them because if there's a default and the economy crashes people are going to blame Biden. I don’t think this is a given. The bigger dipshits they are about it the more likely it is they will be blamed. Edit : it’s a winning issue in their primaries.
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Willa Rogers posted:Trump gets that from his rallies, and without pesky questions. I agree, but I'm sure there's very little that can top his crowd cheering as he shits all over his opponents' wives for being ugly and dumb only for the opponent to shake his hand and acquiesce to his power.
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Rudy Giuliani sued for rape and sexual assault.quote:A former associate is suing Rudy Giuliani for alleged sexual assault and harassment, wage theft and other misconduct, accusing the former mayor and Trump lawyer of making "sexual demands" and going on "alcohol-drenched rants that included sexist, racist, and antisemitic remarks," many of which were allegedly recorded. That last paragraph is all sorts of  -worthy.
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Timby posted:Rudy Giuliani sued for rape and sexual assault. And in the filing was this little gem. (yes I know it's Olbermann, but I still checked the source) https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1658201258656759809?s=20
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drat, what is it with NY pols & their sex poo poo? Weiner, Spitz, Cuomo and now Ghouliani.
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Willa Rogers posted:drat, what is it with NY pols & their sex poo poo? "When you're a star, they let you do it..."
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I do wonder if that sexual assault lawsuit against Trump being successful encouraged this woman to file this suit. The timing is interesting. None of what is in there surprises me in the least (it's been pretty clear that Trump was likely selling pardons because of who got pardoned by him).
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Debt ceiling talks have broken down today. They have temporarily adjourned with plans for Congressional leaders and Biden to meet tomorrow. "if you do this you'll save millions of lives" "meh" "if you do this millions will die" "meh" "democrats want this" "i will fight against it with every fiber of my being"
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Lol we called selling pardons here on SA years ago. I wonder if anyone actually took them up on it?
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cr0y posted:Lol we called selling pardons here on SA years ago.
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Kalli posted:Looks like the dude who did this is extra cooked: (Ben Collins is a nbc reporter) I can't get over the fact that this guy's claim is essentially that he was banished to the shadow realm like a yu-gi-oh character. What heinous crimes did he commit to enrage the pharaoh so? Seriously though, it sounds like he's got some serious mental issues and hopefully he gets the help he needs.
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cr0y posted:Lol we called selling pardons here on SA years ago.  You've been able to buy your way out of a ban for decades. 
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Ither posted:If Biden were to invoke the 14th Amendment, how long would it take? Is it instant? Assuming someone doesn't sue immediately and suspend it? Like in theory, Biden issues a executive order under the 14th amendment to Treasury to take out more bonds and then ??? uncharted American legal territory.
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Ither posted:If Biden were to invoke the 14th Amendment, how long would it take? Is it instant? Invoking the 14th Amendment is Biden saying, "America is Constitutionally required to pay it's debts." So it would be instant, and any delay would come from some insane Federal Judge deciding to stay the paying of debts pending the legal maneuvering. Given the state of our courts, there's a decent chance whoever files the lawsuit gets some Trump dumbfuck who will take a break from eating paint chips to destroy the economy.
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InsertPotPun posted:most galling is none of this loving matters to these people. they just want to "win", they don't care what that entails besides "democrats don't get what they want" I mean a chunk of the Republican party, including their former President and likely future Presidential candidate literally tried to overthrow the existing US Government, so them not caring at all for the well-being of the nation seems a feature, not a bug. This is a daily reminder to not allow Trump to return to that office under any circumstances, US democracy will not survive it.
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