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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

KomradeX posted:

Thanks snopes for confiming it in the most round about way



my man needed napkins to get started??

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Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
huh, so that's why John Podesta was so concerned about forgetting his handkerchief at Comet Ping Pong

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Have you tried loving your spouse instead

Or just, I dunno, hanging out with them

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

C-Euro posted:

Have you tried loving your spouse instead

Or just, I dunno, hanging out with them

pretty boring for a podcast

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

C-Euro posted:

Have you tried loving your spouse instead

Or just, I dunno, hanging out with them

no that hurts my mental health. you wouldn't want to intentionally make someone suffer negative mental health and self harm, would you??

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

ever since that clip started getting passed around I've been thinking about a medical drama where it's basically the same set-up as the good doctor but instead of Autism he's a middle-aged Andre's Steakhouse style Black guy and it's called The Good-rear end Doctor

what clip

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

lmao

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Dr. Killjoy posted:

there's been this weird trend in seemingly liberal people arguing that for the good of individual mental health and wellness that we basically abandon any and all social obligations, basically reinventing libertarianism

saw some freak advocate bringing smoking sections back because neurodivergent people need a drag sometimes

thats a good way to phrase the phenomenon and i agree! very interesting!!!

DragQueenofAngmar
Dec 29, 2009

You shall not pass!

KirbyKhan posted:

Equality isn't less bad things happening. Equality is more people get to do bad things.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Smythe posted:

what clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byiwOY5XM0

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuVVlSgYLc

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

There's an interesting book on how American marriages are changing and it's putting so much goddamn pressure on your spouse.

Alone Together: How Marriage in America Is Changing

Most observers agree that marriage in America has been changing. Some think it is in decline, that the growth of individualism has made it increasingly difficult to achieve satisfying and stable relationships. Others believe that changes, such as increasing gender equality, have made marriage a better arrangement for men as well as women.

Based on two studies of marital quality in America twenty years apart, this book takes a middle view, showing that while the divorce rate has leveled off, spouses are spending less time together―people may be “bowling alone” these days, but married couples are also eating alone. Indeed, the declining social capital of married couples―including the fact that couples have fewer shared friends―combined with the general erosion of community ties in American society has had pervasive, negative effects on marital quality.

At the same time, family income has increased, decision-making equality between husbands and wives is greater, marital conflict and violence have declined, and the norm of lifelong marriage enjoys greater support than ever.

The authors conclude that marriage is an adaptable institution, and in accommodating the vast changes that have occurred in society over the recent past, it has become a less cohesive, yet less confining arrangement.

The best regarded book on the current economics of marriage, Marriage Markets: How Inequality is Remaking the American Family, will probably not shock you in explaining why marriage is declining, why commitment seems more difficult, and why marriages become unstable. Would it shock you to know every single thing that's been blamed on African American "culture" or "values" is entirely the result of material conditions? As people get poorer and risk of male unemployment, incarceration or inability/unwillingness (charitably, to take on the economic hardship) to provide for children increases, women decide it's a big gamble. In every single survey back to the 50's African Americans expressed a desire to be in long-term, stable, committed, married relationships, but their families were annihilated by what amounts to economic warfare.

Well, obviously this poverty has spread, and so the social behaviour now applies to many poor whites as well. In the 90's I guess the right described this in really vile racist terms, but it's become increasingly hard for them to explain away. Even people who are socially conservative, religious, whatever, can't sustain marriages when things are this bad. As of the Great Recession, marriage instability began to spread to the bottom part of the white middle class.

Who has lasting, loving, marriages? Marriage is tied pretty much 1:1 with professional attainment and income. That's the real reason people marry and have children later. It's so loving obvious in hindsight, but I guess a lot of energy goes into obscuring this. Anyway, PMC people get married, enjoy being married, had satisfying dating lives prior to being married, have stable cohabitation patterns even back to their early-mid 20's.

However, all of the issues in the first book apply to them, as highly educated professionals don't have a work life balance, and people in those knowledge economy jobs still have increasingly miserable, grinding lives with only their spouse to keep them company. The reason affairs seem like "self-care", which I agree is disgusting, does have a basis in their material conditions. They're not reprehensible people in a vacuum, they're just not able to sustain marriages in an atomizing environment, where all capitalism can offer you is a good time, and that includes gratification without messy intimacy and everything else that comes with marriage. People want an escape from life, that means an escape from married life.

Capitalism is doing these things.

Anyway, interesting book.

There was a time when the phrase "American family" conjured up a single, specific image: a breadwinner dad, a homemaker mom, and their 2.5 kids living comfortable lives in a middle-class suburb. Today, that image has been shattered, due in part to skyrocketing divorce rates, single parenthood, and increased out-of-wedlock births. But whether it is conservatives bewailing the wages of moral decline and women's liberation, or progressives celebrating the result of women's greater freedom and changing sexual mores, most Americans fail to identify the root factor driving the changes: economic inequality that is remaking the American family along class lines. In Marriage Markets, June Carbone and Naomi Cahn examine how macroeconomic forces are transforming our most intimate and important spheres, and how working class and lower income families have paid the highest price. Just like health, education, and seemingly every other advantage in life, a stable two-parent home has become a luxury that only the well-off can afford. The best educated and most prosperous have the most stable families, while working class families have seen the greatest increase in relationship instability. Why is this so? The book provides the answer: greater economic inequality has profoundly changed marriage markets, the way men and women match up when they search for a life partner. It has produced a larger group of high-income men than women; written off the men at the bottom because of chronic unemployment, incarceration, and substance abuse; and left a larger group of women with a smaller group of comparable men in the middle. The failure to see marriage as a market affected by supply and demand has obscured any meaningful analysis of the way that societal changes influence culture. Only policies that redress the balance between men and women through greater access to education, stable employment, and opportunities for social mobility can produce a culture that encourages commitment and investment in family life. A rigorous and enlightening account of why American families have changed so much in recent decades, Marriage Markets cuts through the ideological and moralistic rhetoric that drives our current debate. It offers critically needed solutions for a problem that will haunt America for generations to come.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

i like to spend time and eat with my wife

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
I do not want to be a "hate my wife" guy.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

what the gently caress is going on in this show lmfao. jesus christ

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
some dire poo poo if we're combining A&E style antisocial porn with network medical drama... WOW

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

lobster shirt posted:

i like to spend time and eat with my wife

i like to spend time eating your wife too

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

Xaris posted:

i like to spend time eating your wife too

please do not eat my wife

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Good doctor got drunk and explicitly threatened his ex-gf w a baseball bat

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ihh59sQSs&pp=ygUSU2hhdW4gbGVhIGJhc2ViYWxs

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
drat maybe it is a good show

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
Hitler had a wife

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

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Kindest Forums User posted:

Hitler had a wife
exactly, this is why ill never agree to the institution of wifey-and-hubby. i do not support hitlers

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
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Smythe posted:

some dire poo poo if we're combining A&E style antisocial porn with network medical drama... WOW
idk if youve tuned into network tv recently but it's dire

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

during the marital sacrament, there must always be a remembrance of hitler

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Frosted Flake posted:

Good doctor got drunk and explicitly threatened his ex-gf w a baseball bat

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Ihh59sQSs&pp=ygUSU2hhdW4gbGVhIGJhc2ViYWxs

this sucks lol

Xaris posted:

idk if youve tuned into network tv recently but it's dire

appears to be the case

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

lobster shirt posted:

i like to spend time and eat with my wife

happy wife happy life

Kindest Forums User
Mar 25, 2008

Let me tell you about my opinion about Bernie Sanders and why Donald Trump is his true successor.

You cannot vote Hillary Clinton because she is worse than Trump.
A show called A Good Wife. Where Hitler finds himself in the body of 21st century married woman. Where he navigates the challenges of a modern marriage, as a woman, and he(she) is autistic.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Smythe posted:

this sucks lol

appears to be the case

yea if you're like me and the last time you tuned into TV was 2011, it's really really bad

fwiw network tv was always insanely bad so i dont know if its gotten worse

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Kindest Forums User posted:

A show called A Good Wife. Where Hitler finds himself in the body of 21st century married woman. Where he navigates the challenges of a modern marriage, as a woman, and he(she) is autistic.

sounds cool

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Xaris posted:

yea if you're like me and the last time you tuned into TV was 2011, it's really really bad

fwiw network tv was always insanely bad so i dont know if its gotten worse

tough life out there...

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

think im gonna watch a couple episodes of hosue tonight

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Better Call Saul and Succession were like the 2 good things on tv in recent years

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

succession and the righteous gemstones both kick rear end. i also liked house of the dragon a lot but ymmv with the dragon show.

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Righteous Gemstones is great as well

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:

purchasing a young girl to get cannibalized as "a joke", jesus

I think he just brought show tickets.

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

they should start making it an actual act of cultural war against the british, like have King Charles in the show abdicate his throne to the american Ted Lasso

I’d watch this garbage

War and Pieces posted:

they're right

Nah. There’s no reason not to intentionally discomfit smokers by denying place to smoke because it’s not like they actually need cigarettes.... just roll with being hosed with, what’s the problem :kiddo:

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i'd smell that garbage

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN posted:

Righteous Gemstones is great as well

Is season 2 good. watched the first one in its entirety and liked it but didn’t feel the momentum

DragQueenofAngmar
Dec 29, 2009

You shall not pass!

Smythe posted:

some dire poo poo if we're combining A&E style antisocial porn with network medical drama... WOW

“combined” past tense actually, this shows been on for like 6 years lol

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

DragQueenofAngmar posted:

“combined” past tense actually, this shows been on for like 6 years lol

brutal

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