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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Youremother posted:

Darkhawk and Knull did NOT drop??? And they buffed Death????
Those are much better cards than the ones they dropped to Series 3 instead

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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
"Light" balance change is their most impactful nerf ever lol. One I wanted btw but the way they phrased it is funny. Sera no longer has natural counters beyond galactus you're gonna have to run random wave tech.

EDIT: FIVE new cards to pull! I get why they didnt drop Darkhawk they still arent happy with his balance.

Also I'm confused why they went to 7 cubes per rank instead of the obvious 8.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 16:44 on May 16, 2023

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I’m still not clear on what this Wave change means

Is it mainly that you can’t run out Death and She Hulk at the same time because both of them now cost 4 regardless of their card abilities?

Youremother
Dec 26, 2011

MORT

Yes, basically Wave now hard sets all card costs to 4 instead of She-Hulk and Death having their cost to 4 and then being reduced. I think Doomwave is basically dead as a deck now.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




FlamingLiberal posted:

I’m still not clear on what this Wave change means

Is it mainly that you can’t run out Death and She Hulk at the same time because both of them now cost 4 regardless of their card abilities?

Yep. Them and I think any other cost reduced cards, like Miles or Stature

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

FlamingLiberal posted:

I’m still not clear on what this Wave change means

Is it mainly that you can’t run out Death and She Hulk at the same time because both of them now cost 4 regardless of their card abilities?
Everything costs 4 no matter what. Wave is now a 1-turn sandman. Wave death she hulk zabu stature miles shenanigans are dead. Thats how i read it i still havent played.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
If you own all Series 4 and 5 cards as well as all Ultimate variants then the token shop will become inaccessible for Series 3 cards as well

I hope they get around to fixing this problem quickly

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Jedit posted:

Kitty returned to her original ability, Wave applies last, Death reduced to 8-cost. Now only 3 bonus ranks for hitting a x10 but also only 7 cubes per rank up - net effect is you need one less cube per 10 levels while ascending, but you can descend faster.

E: and Crystal is now completely unplayable in a different way.

Original ability? They changed her just like they said they would. (Pretty hard nerf too imho.)

As for ranking: the biggest change here is right after season start, because going from x0 to (x+1)0 now only takes 70 cubes instead of 100. Nice of them to think of the infinite level players because this change has the biggest effect if you start from rank 70.

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


Wave still hoses Sera since it hits after all cost reductions. It just means you can't go wave into 36 power between 3 lanes while your opponent is hard locked into 1 play.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I felt a bit silly not opening reserves when I'm not close to my next pool 4 pity yet (I think), but I guess it paid off! That certainly is more interesting for me than just getting Sentry this week.

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


Darkhawk and Knull not dropping to S3 is some poo poo though lol

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo



Killed wave? Killed strongest destroy archetype? Didn’t drop down Knull and Darkhawk? No actual changes to card acquisition?

Wow Second Dinner, you’ve done it again

Youremother
Dec 26, 2011

MORT

Really concerning patch. The ranking changes I'm a little apprehensive about, I'm still focusing on trying to hit infinite and have been stuck at 80-82 for a while now, so who knows how that's going to pan out. Darkhawk and Knull not dropping is grade-A bullshit, transparent paywalling, and though the Wave nerf is good the Death buff is absolutely terrifying. Perplexing to say the least

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




an 8 cube match is now 1-2 ranks in each direction, that's nuts. you really want to retreat more

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
Death's 9 cost didn't matter if used with wave so it shouldn't affect how she's been played without wave so it's a dumb justification to adjust her because of the wave change

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Death does not see much play without wave. Imo the buff was totally warranted. Darkhawk is still too strong and probably needs another adjustment, I dont mind their keeping those sorts of cards at S4. (I dont own darkhawk). Tokens are a free currency so I dont consider it paywalling either.

Side note I am now only playing priority decks + T5 wave. Thanos ongoing, patriot to start with.

Snazzy Frocks posted:

Death's 9 cost didn't matter if used with wave so it shouldn't affect how she's been played without wave so it's a dumb justification to adjust her because of the wave change
Played without wave, in what? Galactus and possibly a few thanos death lists?

No Wave fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 16, 2023

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

No Wave posted:

Death does not see much play without wave. Imo the buff was totally warranted. Darkhawk is still too strong and probably needs another adjustment, I dont mind their keeping those sorts of cards at S4. (I dont own darkhawk). Tokens are a free currency so I dont consider it paywalling either.

Played without wave, in what? Galactus and possibly a few thanos death lists?

I'm just saying the justification is dumb is all. She could have been reduced long ago and been more accessible. I agree she needed a buff

Youremother
Dec 26, 2011

MORT

I dunno, Thanos Death seems like it's gonna be in a good position right now? Most Destroy decks I've played, Thanos or otherwise, are capable of pulling Death out by turn 3 or 4. I do agree that Darkhawk needs a nerf, I don't own Darkhawk either, I just think it's bullshit they're blatantly going outside of the established pool dropping schedule for two highly desirable cards. It's either even more grinding for tokens/CL track luck or plunk down the credits to improve your odds

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Don’t worry folks they were hard at work on FUN NEW FEATURES for YOU! Like now you can set individual pfp and titles to be associated with decks! How cool!

Right?

Hello?

anyone?

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
I'm still waiting on them to let me pick the border color on my card

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I forgot, do I need to wait 2 more hours before the pool 3 freebie card shop thingy updates now that the monthly token drop happened?

Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 17:12 on May 16, 2023

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


quote:

Card Acquisition Updates

The next few months are going to be truly epic for MARVEL SNAP! We have a new mode coming next month called Conquest, MARVEL SNAP on Windows continues to get polished and prepared for its global launch, and lastly, we’re dreaming up ways of improving the fun of getting new cards.

We’ve seen a lot of questions and feedback about how we introduce new cards to MARVEL SNAP. With our next patch on the horizon, we’d like to share some updates about our plans to improve how you acquire new cards. Our goal over the next few months is to find ways for more people to get the chance to play with new cards, more often.

Flexible Series Release
We've heard many players express that releasing every new card in Series 5 is interfering with their ability to get excited about those releases. We don't want you to feel pressured to wait for Series Drops in order to enjoy that content, and we'd like you to be able to play with more new cards each month. Our goal is to make all new card releases feel exciting, accessible, and impactful in MARVEL SNAP. In our future seasons, we’ll be experimenting with releasing some cards directly to Series 4 - starting with two cards released to Series 4 in June. We believe releasing some cards at lower Token cost will increase accessibility and excitement for new cards released each week. We’ll be listening to your feedback to find the right balance between Series 5 versus Series 4 card releases.

Flexible Series Drop
In addition to modifying the Release Series for some cards, we’ll also be taking a look at the Series Drop cadence for cards. Currently all cards are on the same schedule starting in Series 5, dropping to Series 4 and eventually Series 3. However, the reality is that not all cards are created equally appealing to players. Going forward, we’re going to exercise more flexibility in what cards drop series and when. Sometimes this means preserving the Series of a card, as is the case with Thanos and Galactus. Other times this means we may drop a card from Series 5 to Series 3 because we simply want more people to experiment with it. We may even skip a monthly series drop entirely when the meta looks fun and healthy. These decisions will be made on a card-by-card basis based on data and player feedback instead of applying a blanket rule to all cards.

In our upcoming patch, we’re dropping more cards into Series 3 than we ever have before. In addition, some of our more impactful cards are staying in their current series for longer than expected. There are some fun cards in this drop and we hope they inspire you to experiment with new decks!
Cards dropping from Series 5 to Series 4:
:dot:Master Mold
:dot:Negasonic
:dot:Nimrod
Cards staying in Series 4:
:dot:Darkhawk
:dot:Knull
:dot:Shanna
:dot:Stature
:dot:Zabu
:dot:MODOK
Cards dropping from Series 4 to Series 3:
:dot:Sentry
:dot:Silver Surfer
:dot:Dazzler
:dot:Shadow King
:dot:Sauron
:dot:Ghost
Series 3 Card Acquisition
In a previous patch, we made a few changes for Series 3 players that greatly increased their Token earn rate and introduced the free, seasonal Choose Your Card section. This made new card releases more accessible to these players and ultimately resulted in more cards being collected, but we’ve heard feedback that some players would still like the flexibility to use Tokens for Series 3 cards. In addition to the Choose Your Card section, we’re adding a new way to collect Series 3 cards. In our June patch, we’re updating the Token Shop to include a new section: Series 3 Mystery Card. This option will be available for 1,000 Tokens and can be purchased anytime you have enough Tokens and unowned Series 3 cards.

More Ways to Earn Tokens
Over the last couple of months, we’ve been making adjustments to increase the rate players are able to acquire Tokens. We think there are more improvements to be made here. In the next few patches, we’ll be introducing a couple more features that will reward more Tokens to more players. Our goal is that with these new features increasing the flow of Tokens, players will be able to purchase more new cards, more frequently! The first of these new features will be Weekend Missions.

Weekend Missions: Weekend Missions offer more goals and rewards for players, beyond their current Daily Missions and Weekly Missions. With the initial release of this feature, each weekend will have three Weekend Missions:
:dot:Win Games to Earn Credits
:dot:Win Games with Season Pass Card to Earn Gold
:dot:Win Games with Newly Released Card to Earn Tokens
Each of these reward amounts will vary depending on the difficulty of the mission. There will be Weekly Missions available for each new card release. Weekly Missions for a Newly Released Card are a great way to earn back Tokens with your new cards - essentially reducing the overall Token cost!

Thank you for all your feedback and patience as we’re continuing to make updates to MARVEL SNAP. We hope to make a game that we can all play together for years to come!

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


so you know. if you can afford the 6k tokens to get a new release you can get some tokens back :shepface:

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
We're working very hard to slowly fix the lovely system we designed to be lovely please keep paying

KazigluBey
Oct 30, 2011

boner

gently caress them for holding Knull back, this is such loving bullshit, I was so excited to be able to play him finally. Garbage Hearthstonebrained devs.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo



I don’t think there’s a single part of this I like lmao (beyond weekend missions)

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
I'd love the 80s Shadowcat variant, but it looks ... unreleased?

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


Sandwolf posted:

I don’t think there’s a single part of this I like lmao (beyond weekend missions)

like the whole "yeah we're gonna release cards into S4 and leapfrog stuff from S5 to S3" is good. Ending the standard rotation of S5 -> S4 -> S3 and suggesting they'll just skip future series drops if they feel like it is insane. Also you know flat out admitting they're gonna lock powerful cards to S4. :shepface:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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In the token shop I am now seeing a Series 3 card where the Series 4/5 ones are supposed to be. I guess that’s intentional?

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
Meanwhile, Dan Hipp is the best.

https://twitter.com/MISTERHIPP/status/1658505830092910593

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Also I don’t see Kitty Pryde in my inbox yet

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
Dan hipp loves the outstretched hand in your face pose

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

FlamingLiberal posted:

Also I don’t see Kitty Pryde in my inbox yet

She's just in your stuff now

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Hmm Sauron or Ghost. Sauron seems obvious but Ghost seems like she could really go nuts with Sera.

uXs
May 3, 2005

Mark it zero!

Fate Accomplice posted:

an 8 cube match is now 1-2 ranks in each direction, that's nuts. you really want to retreat more

After you level up to a new rank, you now only need 49 cubes instead of 50 to get to the next one. That really doesn't make a difference.

(Well, I guess it makes it more swingy, since there's now only 70 cubes in between ranks.)

The biggest change is for the first rank up after each season, now only requiring 70 cubes instead of 100.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Snazzy Frocks posted:

She's just in your stuff now
Ok I see it now, guess I missed her

CitizenKeen
Nov 13, 2003

easygoing pedant

FlamingLiberal posted:

Also I don’t see Kitty Pryde in my inbox yet

She just showed up in my list of cards.

Bad Video Games
Sep 17, 2017


So when us the free mystery variant supposed to be available? They're all on the paid track.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Walla posted:

So when us the free mystery variant supposed to be available? They're all on the paid track.
They sent that out in the inbox awhile ago

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Youremother
Dec 26, 2011

MORT

I got my freebie variant on the 4th. You may have missed it :smith:

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