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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Jeez, speedrunners are something else, man Now that it's not a spoiler that time travel happens, it's much easier as adult. You just align with the pillar to the left, lock the camera with Z, walk into the corner and jumpslash twice and you go through the wall. Try it out when you get there, it's super easy (and it'd be interesting to see how your co-hosts would react (and at this point it doesn't actually skip anything))
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I know the Water Temple is the popular one to hate on but I genuinely think I hated the Forest Temple when I first played the game. I got lost all the time.
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You can cancel a nocked arrow without shooting it by swinging your sword or I believe pulling out another C-button item like the hookshot. Activating the shield might work but I've never tried.
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fatsleepycat posted:You can cancel a nocked arrow without shooting it by swinging your sword or I believe pulling out another C-button item like the hookshot. Activating the shield might work but I've never tried.
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TwoPair posted:I know the Water Temple is the popular one to hate on but I genuinely think I hated the Forest Temple when I first played the game. I got lost all the time. Yeah, I think it's at least as confusing as the Water Temple. WT is fine as long as you don't miss that one key but I somehow always get messed up in the Forest Temple. And the music is creepy as heck.
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TwoPair posted:I know the Water Temple is the popular one to hate on but I genuinely think I hated the Forest Temple when I first played the game. I got lost all the time. I still get lost in it all the time, and the music is the creepiest in the game. These 18+ dungeons are a lot tougher
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Forest Temple is a bit rough for an introduction to how grownup Link dungeons compare to child Link dungeons, yeah. I think Fire Temple is a better intro grownup dungeon even though it's longer and in some ways more complicated.
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sebzilla posted:Yeah, I think it's at least as confusing as the Water Temple. WT is fine as long as you don't miss that one key but I somehow always get messed up in the Forest Temple. And the music is creepy as heck. davidspackage posted:I still get lost in it all the time, and the music is the creepiest in the game. I guess I'm the odd one out as someone who's always loved the Forest Temple and the music. I think it's chill, if a bit strange. I don't really get lost in it anymore, but randomizer runs will do that to you. I don't really mind getting lost in it anyways, I probably like it so much just because the aesthetic is my jam. I honestly don't know which is my least favorite, but I know I'm never excited to do Jabu Jabu for some reason. Water is tedious at times, but I don't hate it.
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It's worth pointing out that the deku nuts are great at stunning stalfos and the poes both. That's why the stalfos drop them so regularly.
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fatsleepycat posted:You can cancel a nocked arrow without shooting it by swinging your sword or I believe pulling out another C-button item like the hookshot. Activating the shield might work but I've never tried. Commander Keene posted:Yeah, IIRC all of these work. I think going into first-person mode using C-Up works as well. Though I don't really remember how the game felt on an actual N64 controller well enough to say how comfortable or convenient any of those choices are. Most of those buttons all use the same thumb, so if it's holding down a C button it makes it hard to do anything else. I'll try the shield though, next time I'm in that position. TwoPair posted:I know the Water Temple is the popular one to hate on but I genuinely think I hated the Forest Temple when I first played the game. I got lost all the time. sebzilla posted:Yeah, I think it's at least as confusing as the Water Temple. WT is fine as long as you don't miss that one key but I somehow always get messed up in the Forest Temple. And the music is creepy as heck. I think "tedious" really is the right word for the Water Temple. I complain about the one room in the Forest Temple with the blocks and switches, but just trying to get around the Water Temple even when you know where you're going can drive you crazy. DoubleNegative posted:It's worth pointing out that the deku nuts are great at stunning stalfos and the poes both. That's why the stalfos drop them so regularly. drat it! I swear I tested to see if deku nuts did anything to them and it didn't. I'm probably confusing them with some other enemy because they're so hit or miss.
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:drat it! I swear I tested to see if deku nuts did anything to them and it didn't. I'm probably confusing them with some other enemy because they're so hit or miss. Stalfos can block the nuts with their shields, but they do work if you manage to get the aim/timing right. I've used them a bunch against Stalfos in Ganon's tower.
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As bad as the redeads were between the wall masters and the weird music kid-me was absolutely terrified of the forest temple. Even a later dungeon didn't do as much as the forest temple. Also the wall masters should have been called ceiling masters right? They're on the ceiling.
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I think they originated in 2d games, where they came out of the walls. They adjusted the gimmick for 3d but didn't change the name.
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Yeah, the original wallmasters came out of walls in Zelda 1, in LTTP they did the "shadow descending from the ceiling thing".
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Gotta master climbing those walls to get to the ceiling. Taps head.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:The ceiling is a wall for the top of the room if you think about it. For this specific room, this is even more right than usual if you think about it.
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Mr. Baps posted:I think they originated in 2d games, where they came out of the walls. They adjusted the gimmick for 3d but didn't change the name. I have wondered about the name before and this makes a whole lot of sense. Cool.
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Oh thaaaat explains why Link never talks. It's because he's a Disney princess and has to sing.
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The "oh no I am defeated" animations for Phantom Ganon and Ingo are weirdly similar. Hands on head and flail about.
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I'm pretty sure you can just use the boomerang to get the heart piece outside Zora's Domain.
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Yeah, that's what I did in my most recent playthrough, because gently caress carting one of those stupid chickens across the entire map to get it "early".
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DMorbid posted:I'm pretty sure you can just use the boomerang to get the heart piece outside Zora's Domain. Commander Keene posted:Yeah, that's what I did in my most recent playthrough, because gently caress carting one of those stupid chickens across the entire map to get it "early". Is this how I'm going to learn that Pieces of Heart can be grabbed with the boomerang/hookshot? I don't think that's something I know.
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If I remember right, the boomerang works but the hookshot doesn’t.
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smax posted:If I remember right, the boomerang works but the hookshot doesn’t. Well drat, I learned something today
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smax posted:If I remember right, the boomerang works but the hookshot doesn’t. That's how I remember it too.
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I'm so used to hearing the 1.0 Fire Temple music that I don't recognize what's playing in the Fire Temple whatsoever. It sounds like music from a later dungeon just chopped up.
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DoubleNegative posted:It sounds like music from a later dungeon just chopped up.
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TwoPair posted:I think the Bolero of Fire is still probably my favorite OoT song
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Commander Keene posted:The Gerudo Valley Spanish guitar is mine. Though if you're just talking about the Ocarina songs, I'd have to say I never really thought about them as pieces of music, just as game mechanics. Yeah I meant between ocarina songs. Specifically out of the warp songs since those are a little longer and bring Sheik's harp into the mix instead of the little the earlier stuff like Zelda's lullaby/the song of storms/etc.
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TwoPair posted:I think the Bolero of Fire is still probably my favorite OoT song Some interesting stuff here about the creative challenges of writing 12 distinct and memorable tunes with only 5 notes: https://youtu.be/_SeY_Gss2CY (mild spoilers for a couple of songs/temple names we haven't encountered yet)
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DoubleNegative posted:I'm so used to hearing the 1.0 Fire Temple music that I don't recognize what's playing in the Fire Temple whatsoever. It sounds like music from a later dungeon just chopped up. Wait what do you mean the 1.0 Fire Temple music? Is there supposed to be different music in there?
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