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quote:We define power as the ability to change policy or to change minds: to shape political opinion and debate. To qualify, individuals must have some affiliation with the left, whether the social democratic or socialist tradition, or have challenged the economic status quo; social liberalism alone is not sufficient. 50 rancid authoritarians who donated to Labour 20 years ago then, is it?
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May 17, 2023 14:08
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Pistol_Pete posted:Love how this brings out visually the gulf between the New Statesman's conception of progressive politics and what we see as progressive politics. They are currently going full Hillary. It's totally fine though because the other guy could never win.
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May 17, 2023 14:20
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sinky posted:Avocados no longer the standard for profligate spending An obvious solution presents itself when the generously larded free-range Anne Widdecombe talks about food shortages.
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Guavanaut posted:Not sure she could find much lower to go than that, but I'm always ready to be surprised. She could go lower 
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May 17, 2023 14:27
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do not eat tories that's how you get prions
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May 17, 2023 14:34
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sinky posted:Avocados no longer the standard for profligate spending quote:Before Widdecombe made the comments on Politics Live, she had heard of BBC research that showed the cost of a homemade cheese sandwich had risen by a third to 40p a serving.
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May 17, 2023 14:35
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Half expecting her to suggest that people can eat fairy grass.
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May 17, 2023 14:38
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keith is making fairy grass a class a substance.
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May 17, 2023 14:46
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kecske posted:we'll let them continue to have circuses, for now No need for the circuses in Clown World
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May 17, 2023 14:56
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/1658787097661063170 lol that even the NS can’t manage to pretend that Blair is progressive
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May 17, 2023 15:06
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Julio Cruz posted:lol that even the NS can’t manage to pretend that Blair is progressive Number 16
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May 17, 2023 15:32
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I'm surprised that George Galloway isn't on there. Economically a leftist, socially a gobshite is well within his wheelhouse.
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May 17, 2023 15:38
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well done to whoever came up with the current thread title, it makes me laugh every time I check the forums
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May 17, 2023 15:53
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Zalakwe posted:They are currently going full Hillary. It's totally fine though because the other guy could never win. I'm not sure even Hillary 'I'm With Her' Clinton was quite this relentlessly hostile to her own supporters in the run-up to 2016.
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May 17, 2023 15:55
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Not intentionally. The level of cringe she insisted on occupying was a psychological assault on all who witnessed it
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May 17, 2023 16:00
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The royals and the media going for Diana 2.0: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/17/prince-harry-and-meghan-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase-with-paparazzi
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May 17, 2023 16:03
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https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23528028.king-charles-portrait-jimmy-savile-medal-shown-brighton/quote:An artist has defended his work after visitors to an art exhibition were shocked to see a painting of newly coronated King Charles wearing a Jim’ll Fix It medal.
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May 17, 2023 16:12
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Obviously the idiot vulture journalists are largely to blame there, but at the same time just because you're a celebrity or whatever doesn't mean you get to take part in car chases. Like just stop?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Obviously the idiot vulture journalists are largely to blame there, but at the same time just because you're a celebrity or whatever doesn't mean you get to take part in car chases. Like just stop? That seems like a really good way to get Diana'd if 6 cars are barrelling down at you.
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May 17, 2023 16:38
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Private Speech posted:That seems like a really good way to get Diana'd if 6 cars are barrelling down at you. Yeah, the Daily Mail pursuit team were apparently going full Mad Max on 'em. https://twitter.com/scobie/status/1658842080574144513?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q
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Comrade Fakename posted:Number 16 ah I was going off the cut-down thumbnail in the tweet
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Obviously the idiot vulture journalists are largely to blame there, but at the same time just because you're a celebrity or whatever doesn't mean you get to take part in car chases. Like just stop? There's no indication that they were breaking any traffic laws, is there? If 6 cars with tinted windows are following you and swerving into traffic like Starmer after a big Sunday lunch, are you really "taking part in a car chase"?
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May 17, 2023 17:09
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The responsible thing for him to do would be to get an orange '69 Dodge Charger, paint a giant 1606 kings colours flag on the top, and take them on a real car chase.
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New Statesman article here: https://archive.is/cDiwF There's a sprinkling of good eggs on there including Are Jezza, Zarah Sultana & curate's egg Mark Drakeford, also some non-politicos such as Martin Lewis, Marcus Rashford, Ash Sarkar But some of them... I admit to not having heard of some of them so no idea whether they're good or 'progressive if compared to a 12000 year old sphinx' and retrogressives such as Starmer, Blair, Rowling :smdh: Looking at the Shadow Cabinet members they've put in there... there isn't anyone rateable in the Shadow Cabinet is there? They're all a bunch of rightwing place-persons.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/1658787097661063170 and francis tweetmans
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Guavanaut posted:The responsible thing for him to do would be to get an orange '69 Dodge Charger, paint a giant 1606 kings colours flag on the top, and take them on a real car chase. It's the USA, that's what the pop up chaingun turret in the roof is for, turning paparazzi into yesterday's news.
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Price of beer chat:quote:Rishi Sunak has insisted Brexit is working by citing cheaper beer and sanitary products, as he claimed the economy was looking up and people’s household incomes were “hugely outperforming” expectations. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/17/rishi-sunak-cites-cheap-beer-and-sanitary-products-as-benefits-of-brexit Can't speak for sanitary products as I am well past that age.
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luckily beer and sanitary products are the only two items anyone needs in order to live, so that's fine
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sinky posted:Avocados no longer the standard for profligate spending This is wild. I really should be shoplifting cheese.
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Fumble posted:https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23528028.king-charles-portrait-jimmy-savile-medal-shown-brighton/
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However people with orbs in their profile are some of the greatest Ponderers of our era
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Z the IVth posted:It's the USA, that's what the pop up chaingun turret in the roof is for, turning paparazzi into yesterday's news. dshk on the back of a toyota hilux remains the great leveler of our time.
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Nettle Soup posted:
That’s been true forever though Cheese and coffee have always been weirdly hot options for nicking
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History Comes Inside! posted:That’s been true forever though I was always filling jars to take home from my previous employer - it was the good poo poo too. 
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History Comes Inside! posted:That’s been true forever though everything else in a supermarket which is more than a fiver is security tagged
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