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Famethrowa posted:I've always wanted a show without stakes. just hook me up to a dilaudid pump and put on Ted Lasso and let me die peacefully. 
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I remember season 2 they tried to make it an overarching plot point about how they needed to improve the team or something? But then its like somewhat tossed to the side or its handled in that episode. Can't remember correctly its been a while. They lose so much they get relegated to a lower league in the first season, and in the second season they win the lower league and get promoted back to the Premier League. This is, as I understand it, extremely common for lower-tier EPL teams and there is a handful of teams that are constantly floating between relegation and promotion. PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 18:43 on May 17, 2023 |
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PostNouveau posted:They lose so much they get relegated to a lower league in the first season, and in the second season they win the lower league and get promoted back to the Premier League. there are some teams that do it consistently but all you have to do is look at sunderland to see what would actually happen if a ted lasso like incident was happening in general the entire show is built on the idea that sports outside of america don't count so it's not a big deal
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May 17, 2023 18:47
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The newest episode, a 66-minute slog, hinges on their mediocre team (as well as West Ham, who have never done anything) being in the discussion for a new super league
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May 17, 2023 18:56
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ItohRespectArmy posted:there are some teams that do it consistently but all you have to do is look at sunderland to see what would actually happen if a ted lasso like incident was happening From what I've seen of Season 3, they are in contention for the EPL title, and I have no idea how likely or unlikely that is supposed to be for one of these bubble teams. The show doesn't explain it well other than that all the sports pundits pick them to be last place.
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PostNouveau posted:From what I've seen of Season 3, they are in contention for the EPL title, and I have no idea how likely or unlikely that is supposed to be for one of these bubble teams. The show doesn't explain it well other than that all the sports pundits pick them to be last place. They get a guy who is supposed to basically be Zlatan Ibrahimovic and win a bunch of games with him, then he suddenly retires and they lose a bunch, then they go to Amsterdam for a friendly with Ajax and Ted accidentally discovers the concept of Total Football after watching a 90s Chicago Bulls game at an America-themed restaurant, then completely alters their tactics to play that style a week later, then after some growing pains with it they start winning again. I have no idea how far along in the season it's supposed to be or where they're at on the table.
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Well, like Jeet Heer said in the critical article about the Koch faildaughter, if we're all traumatized then we're all on the same level and inequality doesn't really exist.
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May 17, 2023 19:22
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Before an entire episode about a TV show I’ve never seen: Felix seems a little down, hope he’s not too burnt out. After: he got that dawg in him
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PostNouveau posted:From what I've seen of Season 3, they are in contention for the EPL title, and I have no idea how likely or unlikely that is supposed to be for one of these bubble teams. The show doesn't explain it well other than that all the sports pundits pick them to be last place. leicester winning the title a few seasons after getting promoted is generally considered the greatest story in modern football, it simply wouldn't happen.
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What's funny about Ted Lasso isn't even the reasons they list for it being bad, but also how quickly it abandons it's own premise Like yes its twee, conflict-free bullshit about people having emotional breakthroughs and becoming better people, but there was already a built-in audience for that with stuff like Parks and Rec, Schitt's Creek, etc But its not even good at that anymore, because as the show has continued they accidentally made 'sagely American yokel uses his folksy wisdom to make Brits good at both soccer and mental health' into 'guy in his third year of coaching still refuses to learn absolutely anything about soccer, has panic attacks, is a loser, entire team does badly as a result' Which would be fine if it was actually funny or satirical or whatever but there's so few jokes and so many long monologues about respecting yourself that by S3 you're just watching the world's most sedate drama
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The most egregious thing that they didn't get into is that the team owner starts loving the youngest player on the team in season 2 and they eventually break up because the tabloids would have a field day if it got out, not because it's an extremely frought situation on its face. And in the current season the team captain finds out that a player is gay and becomes cold toward him, but then runs into the stands to confront a fan who shouts homophobic slurs from the stands and gets ejected from the game, leading to the gay player coming out to the rest of the team. Roy gives a press conference after where he basically says the fan had it coming but also that you can't do that, and also it's nobody's business why he did. Basically very smugly asserting that the proper response to someone being bigoted is...completely unclear.
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It's really great for a show to have a stance on issues that amounts to 'shrug'
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Parks and Rec was definitely saccharine a lot of the time but the show also had jokes in it.
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Henchman of Santa posted:They get a guy who is supposed to basically be Zlatan Ibrahimovic and win a bunch of games with him Oh god, I forgot how loving stupid this was too. They basically do not lobby the guy or talk with him at all. The owner and management just sit back and hope really hard that he'll pick them. When it looks like he's going to the big team, the owner gives him a lovely speech about how his legacy will be worse because he only played for top teams so he randomly announces at a press conference that he'll play for the tiny team. That's it. No courting him, no big deal talks, nothing.
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It’s insane the amount of discourse that has arisen from a TV show which is literally based on a few joke commercials for NBC Sports.
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"real football"
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Its very much a show where they hope slowing down how fast the actors talk and turning up the music will make a moment. But for anyone who's not prone to sudden bouts of weeping its entirely transparent manipulation. It worked for the first season because it came out year 1 of the pandemic when there were no vaccines and people were desperate for a warm blanket of a show. That and laughing at stereotypes of the english is always a winner. What was surprising was how fast the show was willing to castrate any conflict. I thought the guy who played jamey did a great turn as a total bastard for the ten minutes he was allowed to.
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May 18, 2023 00:42
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Americans' brains being pulverized into oatmeal to such an extent that they can't handle conflict or stakes in fiction is some End of Days poo poo. loving Doug had more catharsis than Ted Lasso.
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porfiria posted:Americans' brains being pulverized into oatmeal to such an extent that they can't handle conflict or stakes in fiction is some End of Days poo poo. loving Doug had more catharsis than Ted Lasso. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpOs6rORbc won't see this on tv today!
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The problem I have with all these shows mentioned (plus the office, community, etc) is as the longer they go on the writers become enamoured with their characters and want them all to win and be living their best lives, forgetting that the show was funny and good when the characters were weird losers failing around. Have no interest in Lasso but it sounds like they just skipped the part where it was good at first. Efficient!
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Blood Boils posted:The problem I have with all these shows mentioned (plus the office, community, etc) is as the longer they go on the writers become enamoured with their characters and want them all to win and be living their best lives, forgetting that the show was funny and good when the characters were weird losers failing around. The TV people are my friends, I just want them to be happy.
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Henchman of Santa posted:The most egregious thing that they didn't get into is that the team owner starts loving the youngest player on the team in season 2 and they eventually break up because the tabloids would have a field day if it got out, not because it's an extremely frought situation on its face. the best part is that the running into the crowd to hit a guy bit is stolen from a real thing that happened (eric cantona kung fu kicking a guy that was racially abusing him) which is way cooler, completely justified and cantona faced genuine real life and professional consequences for it. I think the ultimate problem with Ted Lasso compared to other shows like it is that sports are naturally cathartic. They basically always have real stakes and genuine closure when a season ends and Ted Lasso manages to neuter a sense of any competition even. Things just happen because the plot needs them to happen to get to the next disgusting twee monologue. Rocky didn't need an inspirational speech, it just needed a guy who had the poo poo beaten out of him screaming his girlfriends name. The homophobia thing is just taking current event and inserting it into tv show plot which is the laziest writing too.
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the latest movie mindset got me wanting to watch close encouters which ive never scene like besides one time on abc on a sunday afternoon so thisll be neat
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I fantasize about being the Richard Dreyfuss character from that movie like once a week. Pick me I’m ready to go.
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drat i kept thinking he was a douglas, took forever to find the movie
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an hour+ long episode of tv show should be a rare treat reserved for finales. an entire season of that is just miserable
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KoRMaK posted:the latest movie mindset got me wanting to watch close encouters which ive never scene like besides one time on abc on a sunday afternoon so thisll be neat Wait wasn’t the latest about body snatchers?
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Chakan posted:Before an entire episode about a TV show I’ve never seen: Felix seems a little down, hope he’s not too burnt out. Hearing him rant about this vapid tv show was like watching my cat play: is he having fun or just really pissed off
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susan b buffering posted:an hour+ long episode of tv show should be a rare treat reserved for finales. an entire season of that is just miserable everything is too fuckin long now!
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ItohRespectArmy posted:there are some teams that do it consistently but all you have to do is look at sunderland to see what would actually happen if a ted lasso like incident was happening For reference Claudio Rainieri got fired the season after he took Leicester City to then won a championship against “lions win the Super Bowl” odds when Leicester got near the drop zone again IIRC
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porfiria posted:Americans' brains being pulverized into oatmeal to such an extent that they can't handle conflict or stakes in fiction is some End of Days poo poo. loving Doug had more catharsis than Ted Lasso. Doug could kick Ted Lasso's rear end easily
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Pharmaskittle posted:everything is too fuckin long now! all Content is stretched out in an attempt to maximise value for investment.... like butter scraped over too much bread
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Breadallelogram posted:Doug could kick Ted Lasso's rear end easily
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Isentropy posted:For reference Claudio Rainieri got fired the season after he took Leicester City to then won a championship against “lions win the Super Bowl” odds when Leicester got near the drop zone again IIRC And are on the verge of being dumped out of the premier league again.
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I think that if a fan calls a player a homophobic or racial slur, the player should be entitled to invoke the Douchebag Rule, where two security guards hold the fan so the player can slug them in the face. If the UK can officially adopt whatever weird laws result in the king getting slathered in Jimmy Savile's pheromones at his coronation, they can give us this.
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Many worlds are colliding https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1659260475169808388
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porfiria posted:The TV people are my friends, I just want them to be happy. TV is a gutter to drain away empathy and compassion. Other things are too, but especially TV.
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AngryBooch posted:Many worlds are colliding bah gawd. this will be quality content.
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Just finished pentiment the other week. Can’t wait for this
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space uncle posted:I remember watching Ted Lasso in 2020 and enjoying the absolute lack of tension, the relentless positivity, and the immediate and inevitable conclusion of all conflict. My wife and I went down the opposite path and watched The Leftovers. Perfect time and place for that show. Wouldn’t have had it any other way.
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