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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Needs a Corporate Kane addendum

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Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Rarity posted:

Needs a Mayor Kane addendum

:(

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

quote:

- Roman Reigns & Solo Sikoa, Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn

- Brawling Brutes vs. Pretty Deadly

- Zelina vs. Asuka

- Grayson Waller Effect with AJ Styles

- Rick Boogs & LA Knight vs. Street Profits

- Valentina Feroz & Yulisa Leon vs. Alba Fyre & Isla Dawn

- Austin Theory promo

- LWO vs. Usos

- The presentation of Grayson Waller Effect was to be the same as in NXT

- There was an AJ Styles tarot card produced for tonight.

- They had chef-inspired things brought in for Pretty Deadly to use at the tapings

- Michin vs. Lacey Evans is the pre show dark match.

- Bianca Belair is scheduled to be involved in Zelina/Asuka

- Austin Theory's segment is to also feature Sheamus

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011



Seriously? Yes. is my favorite part of these.

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.

Digital Jedi posted:


There was an AJ Styles tarot card produced for tonight.


what the gently caress is that supposed to mean?

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Bard Maddox posted:

what the gently caress is that supposed to mean?

It was with Kross and Scarlet. They got a whole tarot card thing going on since they came back

https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1659731571669123072?s=20

Also, Liv is injury so her an Raquel had to dorp the tag titles.
Updated my list of tag reigns
pre:
Champion(s)						Duration	Defenses
	[The Boss 'N' Hug Connection (Bayley & Sasha Banks)	49 days		1
	The IIconics (Billie Kay & Peyton Royce)		120 days	3
	Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross				62 days		3
	The Kabuki Warriors (Asuka & Kairi Sane)		171 days	4
	Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross (2)				62 days		3
	Bayley & Sasha Banks (2)				96 days		4
	Nia Jax & Shayna Baszler				112 days	3
	Asuka & Charlotte Flair					42 days		1
	Nia Jax & Shayna Baszler (2)				103 days	6
	Natalya & Tamina					129 days	2
	Nikki ASH & Rhea Ripley					63 days		1
	Carmella & Queen Zelina					132 days	1
	Naomi & Sasha Banks					47 days		2
	Aliyah & Raquel Rodriguez				14 days		0
	Damage CTRL (Dakota Kai & IYO SKY)			49 days		1
	Alexa Bliss & Asuka					5 days		0
	Damage CTRL (Dakota Kai & IYO SKY) (2)			114 days	1
	Becky Lynch & Lita					42 days		0
	Liv & Raquel						40 days		2		

Digital Jedi fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 20, 2023

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
I’m sure a feud with AJ will finally get Karrion Kross over especially if he is spooky!

edit: lol remember when Ronda was treated as a big deal

https://twitter.com/sharkosaur/status/1659738821028610052?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g

Seams fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 20, 2023

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

rare Magic card l00k posted:

Seriously? Yes. is my favorite part of these.

Matt Hardy is a fat loser and Matt Hardy ultimately revealed to be fat loser are very underrated

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.

Digital Jedi posted:

It was with Kross and Scarlet. They got a whole tarot card thing going on since they came back

https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1659731571669123072?s=20

Scarlett Bordeaux should learn slight-of-hand magic. it looks like she might have been trying a Snap Change but was just a lazy wipe instead. slight of hand in wrestling would bring the fans back I think

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


quote:

WWE women's tag titles:

Introduced
Bayley and Sasha win, hold for 2 months
Iiconics win, hold for 4 months
Alexa and Nikki Cross win, hold for 2 months
Asuka and Kairi win, hold for 5 months
Alexa and Nikki win, hold for 2 months
Bayley and Sasha win, hold for 3 months
Nia and Shayna win, hold for 3 months
Asuka and Charlotte win, hold for 2 months
Nia and Shayna win, hold for 3 months
Natalya and Tamina win, hold for 4 months
Nikki and Rhea win, hold for 2 months
Carmella and Zelina win, hold for 4 months
Naomi and Sasha win, vacate after walking out of the company 2 months in
Aliyah and Raquel win, hold for 2 weeks
Dakota and Iyo win, hold for 2 months
Alexa and Asuka win, hold for 4 days
Dakota and Iyo win, hold for 4 months
Becky and Lita win, hold for 2 months
Liv and Raquel win, vacate after an injury 2 months in

A belt existing for 4 years and having both a) that cursed a history already of champs who either mean nothing or didn't stay (a full fourth of the talent that have won it, 6/24, abandoned ship; Sasha, the Iiconics, Kairi, Nia, Naomi) because they felt they meant nothing, and b) nobody ever holding it for even half a year because you can't be bothered to care about booking the division that stably for that long, feels like it'd be impressive if any other company pulled it off

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!

Bard Maddox posted:

Scarlett Bordeaux should learn slight-of-hand magic. it looks like she might have been trying a Snap Change but was just a lazy wipe instead. slight of hand in wrestling would bring the fans back I think

I vaguely remember Phantasio, the slight of hand magician character who showed up during the new gen era, wrestled a single tv match that he won, and was then never mentioned again

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


SD spoiler for next week

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Chris James 2 posted:

SD spoiler for next week



Humiliation for loser viewers

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD

Chris James 2 posted:

SD spoiler for next week



:sickos:

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Bard Maddox posted:

slight of hand in wrestling would bring the fans back I think

This is why more people should be fans of Ace Austin

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Chris James 2 posted:

SD spoiler for next week



Okay this could legit go both ways, either Roman wins every belt in existence or Sami & KO retain and then get beaten up for heat.

It will be extremely funny if the tag belts are held hostage by Roman and not defended.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Digital Jedi posted:

It was with Kross and Scarlet. They got a whole tarot card thing going on since they came back

https://twitter.com/WWEonFOX/status/1659731571669123072?s=20

Holy poo poo, everything about that sucks. What is that hair? He's got the Nic Cage bird hair when he turns to the camera.

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.

imagine AJ just coming out and being like "bro is a fan he even bought my trading card" he'd bury him faster than adam cole did

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Seams posted:

I’m sure a feud with AJ will finally get Karrion Kross over especially if he is spooky!

edit: lol remember when Ronda was treated as a big deal

https://twitter.com/sharkosaur/status/1659738821028610052?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g

What the gently caress is that woman on the right wearing? That's a loving Ace Attorney outfit.

DarkstarIV
Apr 6, 2010

OFFICIAL RACIST

Seams posted:

I’m sure a feud with AJ will finally get Karrion Kross over especially if he is spooky!

edit: lol remember when Ronda was treated as a big deal

https://twitter.com/sharkosaur/status/1659738821028610052?s=46&t=AwMtDeZF_tX5DmOd53fE0g

Ronda no longer being treated like a big deal is pretty much entirely on her. She has negative levels of charisma and has regressed to the point where I don't think there is a single woman on this planet who could carry her to a watchable match. It's pretty clear she doesn't give a poo poo anymore, and Dave alluded in the latest newsletter that once she wins (and loses) the tag titles, she's taking a very long break from wrestling again.

It doesn't help that Ronda has this habit of going into interviews just to poo poo on her coworkers either.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

bebaloorpabopalo posted:

imagine AJ just coming out and being like "bro is a fan he even bought my trading card" he'd bury him faster than adam cole did

How did cole bury him I forgot.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

MJeff posted:

How did cole bury him I forgot.

Easier to just find the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBaI2fntvzI

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

lmao more belts for Roman not to defend

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

Roman has defended the championship 27 times in 930 days.

Okada defended 12 times during his 700 day reign.

It’s not true that Roman doesn’t defend the championship.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




What’s the snowflakes to defences ratio it’s the only way to determine who is the best

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

Okada is the best ever world champion maybe. Roman’s run is hurt by the fact that he rarely wins clean anymore.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



Okada also had over twice as many matches during his shorter reign than Roman has had so far

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
I wish it was true that Roman didn't defend his belt and was never around, then there'd be less of his horrible promos and matches.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


History Comes Inside! posted:

What’s the snowflakes to defences ratio it’s the only way to determine who is the best

Roman's long Universal reign, per cagematch (non snowflaked matches omitted):

1. Roman/Braun/Fiend-2.75
2. Roman/Jey-4.25
3. Roman/Drew-4.25
4. Roman/KO-4.5
5. Roman/KO-4
6. Roman/KO-4
7. Roman/Bryan-4.5
8. Roman/Bryan/Edge-4.5
9. Roman/Bryan-4.5
10. Roman/Cesaro-4.25
11. Roman/Edge-4.25
12. Roman/Cena-4.25
13. Roman/Finn-3.5
14. Roman/Finn-4
15. Roman/Brock-3
16. Roman/Seth-3.5
17. Roman/Goldberg-2
18. Roman/Brock-3.25 (Unified belts start here)
19. Roman/Riddle-4.25
20. Roman/Brock-4.5
21. Roman/Drew-4.75
22. Roman/Paul-4.75
23. Roman/KO-3.5
24. Roman/Sami-4.75
25. Roman/Cody- 4.5

average: 4.19 stars

Okada long reign:

1. Okada/Naito-4.5
2. Okada/Marufuji-4.75
3. Okada/Omega-6
4. Okada/Suzuki-4.75
5. Okada/Shibata-5
6. Okada/Fale-4
7. Okada/Omega-6.25
8. Okada/Cody-4.5
9. Okada/Evil-4
10. Okada/Naito-4.5
11. Okada/Sanada-4.75
12. Okada/Sabre-4.75
13. Okada/Tanahashi-5.5
14. Okada/Omega-7

average: 5.018

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
4.25 for Roman/Jey, gently caress off, Dave. That match was a dud at best.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

MJeff posted:

4.25 for Roman/Jey, gently caress off, Dave. That match was a dud at best.

Dave loves Roman matches

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
any match where Roman spends long periods of time monologuing at his opponent gets a guaranteed 4+ stars because ~storytelling~

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Dave got decades of criticism about his New Japan Tokyo Dome bias, it's only fair that within the last year or two he also give WWE a Reigns-monologue bias and AEW a superkick bias to balance it out

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!

MJeff posted:

4.25 for Roman/Jey, gently caress off, Dave. That match was a dud at best.

I feel like Dave grades WWE matches on a curve, so 4.25 Stars is him saying 'This is almost the best match you can get from WWE" and you can fill in the blanks from there

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Chris James 2 posted:

Nick Khan spoke at a conference

India event in September
TV rights exclusivity negotiation window is up so they're free to speak with others now about pursuing a deal. Singled out Amazon
SD could switch nights
Foresees 1.5x rights increase ($1.5bil for SD minimum)
Peacock also going to need to pay up big to keep them
https://twitter.com/TonyMaglio/status/1659260827529035777?s=20

Stocks went down big briefly Wednesday amid word getting out about a meeting. Fox was already aware of the bold/WWE wanting more than they got last time for everything, including SD, and that's why Fox hasn't agreed to a deal yet

https://www.postwrestling.com/2023/05/19/media-analysts-wwe-stock-tumble-was-due-to-panic-over-foxs-interest-in-renewing-smackdown/

quote:

Brandon Ross: That signal and the word around town, so to speak, is that FOX does not want to pay an increase on this, which makes sense in the context of —

Rich Greenfield: And “this” means Smackdown, to be clear.

Brandon Ross: Which makes sense of Endeavor coming back and saying, apparently, we weren’t there, but it’s what set the stock panic off that they’re [Fox is] not a good partner and we don’t want to do a deal with them. And so now you have a situation where, if FOX isn’t willing to pay an increase on SmackDown, who is the bidder that is going to step in? And it isn’t immediately obvious to the street who that bidder is.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER

Eat My Fuc posted:

Okada is the best ever world champion maybe. Roman’s run is hurt by the fact that he rarely wins clean anymore.

Anymore? He almost never did unless it was to make somebody look worse.

Drakkel
May 6, 2007

IT'S LIKE I CAN TOUCH YOU!
It'd be pretty amazing if Smackdown loses it's tv deal because Nick tried to Big Dick the network and they just went "No."

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Yeah the great thing about Okada's god reign is every finish was not only clean but also made the other guy strong and left you thinking "If they only did this than they would of been able to beat Okada"

Roman's reign is just some variation of ref bump spot/interference leading to a visual pin before Roman wins the same way

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


Also I've been wrong about every prediction I've made about Smackdown on Fox but....given the numbers it pulls and the demo and the costs I think either Fox caves cause nothing could replace the numbers Smackdown does or it just doesn't renew cause the overall Fox Network is gonna be cut to the bone.

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Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have
The biggest difference between NJPW title defenses and WWE title defenses is that NJPW will sneak in someone like Karl Anderson every now and then and have an incredible match while when someone in a similar role sneaks into a title match in the WWE it's because they're "too over" and get squashed as punishment

except that bizarre Triple H vs Taka match

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