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NATO please do not liberate Karjala and hand it back to us, make them go independent or something. We really do not need a providence with million Russian refugees living in places where regular maintenance ended in 1944.
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:38 |
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VDV? Nonono Send the DVD Of Steven seagal fearsome moves to boost morale
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:39 |
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Alan Smithee posted:putin drawing so many red lines he could make a carpet Keep drawing, Vova AI on Internet, 2021
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:39 |
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Ikasuhito posted:You know, if there is one thing I appreciate about this war, it's that it showed all those years of endless hand ringing over "escalation" for the impotent cowardice it always was. Here's the quiet part out loud: There's a greater than zero chance that the Patriot missile system could shoot down Russia's launched nukes. That would make Russia even more impotent, would it not?
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:51 |
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Western nations supplying Ukraine with F-16 planes carries enormous risks... to Russian forces. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:52 |
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zone posted:sending MANPADs carries enormous risks! just give ukraine back their nukes already. then good loving luck nuking ukraine, russia
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# ? May 20, 2023 17:55 |
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:Here's the quiet part out loud: A patriot would not be likely able to shoot down an intercontinental ballistic missile that's firing off MIRVs on re-entry. A cruise missile is one thing, they travel relatively slow. Even kinzhals and other hypersonic missiles travel relatively slow. ICBM warheads re-enter the atmosphere at 4 to 5 miles per second. That's 22,000-29,000 km/h or 13,000-18,000 mph. Kinzhals travel at 7,600 mph at their absolute ideal fastest. By the time the warheads even reached an altitude low enough for a Patriot to intercept it, it's seconds away from an airburst detonation anyway. A patriot would be able to shoot down strategic bombers like the Bear and the Blackjack. It could shoot down nuclear capable Iskander, Tochka-U, and Kinzhal missiles. It might even be able to shoot down the Belgorod-class nuke sub's missiles. It cannot do a drat thing about ICBMs and neither can any other air defense system. The only way to deal with ICBMs is to shoot them down in their boost phase as it leaves the silo or launch platform. And even then you've got a window of maybe 45 seconds to do that before they hit orbital injection HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 18:01 on May 20, 2023 |
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HonorableTB posted:this parody never gets old, like most vdv paratroopers Tube suggested a 2022 VDV song when watching that classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odFgNbxmFd8
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:01 |
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NAFO: One Year of Fighting VatniksKyiv Post posted:
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/17303 I love my fella :3 In seriousness, NAFO is the primary reason why Russian disinformation and misinformation propaganda campaigns have never been able to seriously take hold in social media about this war. It just gets drowned out by a bunch of shitposting cartoon dogs everywhere it shows up and it's remarkably effective. Information warfare is just as important as any other kind, and when your military is as dependent on international aid and keeping your friends happy as Ukraine's is, controlling the information space in that way helps safeguard your relationships with allies by reducing the amount of bullshit that gets fed to the people helping keep you alive Edit: if you want a good example of what I'm talking about, consider that supporting Ukraine is one of the only remaining bipartisan agreements in American politics today. Even a majority of the chuds want to keep supporting Ukraine, and I would argue that's attributable to their braindead voters encountering little pro-Russian propaganda in their news feeds telling them to hate the ukroglobohomonazis because it's buried under an avalanche of memes HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 20, 2023 |
# ? May 20, 2023 18:05 |
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HonorableTB posted:The only way to deal with ICBMs is to shoot them down in their boost phase as it leaves the silo or launch platform.
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:13 |
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Cugel the Clever posted:Could always hit them before the Strategic Rocket Forces even know anything's going on it was on the table back before the ussr had nukes https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/from-1945-49-the-us-and-uk-planned-to-bomb-russia-into-the-stone-age
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:19 |
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Also I have a strong feeling this is why Ukraine finally let Wagner take the rest of Bakhmut City proper: https://abcnews.go.com/International/russia-lack-reserves-respond-ukrainian-counteroffensive-officials/story?id=99423993 Russia ain't got the boots anymore after Bakhmut, it served its purpose Scraping the barrel posted:Western officials said Russia’s forces in Ukraine are so badly depleted that Russia may lack the reserves to effectively respond to a major counteroffensive from Ukrainian troops in the coming weeks. Zaluzhny is going to go down as one of the most effective and skilled military commanders of the last 100 years
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:21 |
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Alan Smithee posted:putin drawing so many red lines he could make a carpet Putin drawing so many red lines he emptied the red paint stockpiles left over from the USSR.
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:21 |
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spankmeister posted:https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1659906652139601921 https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1659977239893508096?s=20 Subtitled. As said, I'm not really caught up on whether they captured 98%, 99% or 100% percent of Bakhmut, but it appears Prigozhin is, so by all means troll the poo poo out of him. Hey Prigozhin, you missed a spot. He also says he and Wagner will peace the gently caress out on May 25. Then it's off to Sudan, I guess.
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# ? May 20, 2023 18:51 |
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Months of fighting and deaths above six-figures (with many more injured) to take roughly 40 km2 of land that's basically useless now. At that rate they will only need about 1.5 billion troops to take the rest of Ukraine. The_Franz fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 20, 2023 |
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HonorableTB posted:A patriot would not be likely able to shoot down an intercontinental ballistic missile that's firing off MIRVs on re-entry. A cruise missile is one thing, they travel relatively slow. Even kinzhals and other hypersonic missiles travel relatively slow. Not sure about the Patriot system, but the Aegis ballistic missile defense-equipped SM-3 Block II-A missile demonstrated it can shoot down an ICBM target on 16 Nov 2020. The US Navy SM-3 missiles demonstrated over 2 years ago the ability to knock down a ballistic missile target after re-entry. So while you might be absolutely correct about the Patriot system, it also wouldn't surprise me if they were more capable than anyone outside of the top-secret circles actually knows. In any case, it is doubtful that Russia would be using long range ICBM's on Ukraine, but rather air launched or short/medium range missile launched warheads.
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# ? May 20, 2023 19:17 |
HonorableTB posted:The only way to deal with ICBMs is to shoot them down in their boost phase as it leaves the silo or launch platform. And even then you've got a window of maybe 45 seconds to do that before they hit orbital injection This isn't 100%, there are some options. e;fb Sedgr fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 20, 2023 |
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# ? May 20, 2023 19:22 |
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The_Franz posted:Months of fighting and deaths above six-figures (with many more injured) to take roughly 40 km2 of land that's basically useless now. Do we have a Ukraine deaths? I mean its nice I guess the 40km hasn't been taken, but... Armchairing war should be bathed in some reality
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# ? May 20, 2023 19:32 |
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Wee posted:Do we have a Ukraine deaths? I mean its nice I guess the 40km hasn't been taken, but... Wikipedia (citing NATO) puts Ukraine's casualties at 1:5 to Russia's. Russia is also probably experiencing a higher killed:wounded ratio in their casualty makeup.
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# ? May 20, 2023 19:44 |
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Sedgr posted:This isn't 100%, there are some options. We can shoot Willo567's balls into space, to attract all of the nukes and explode harmlessly in orbit .
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:17 |
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whatever happened to those mobile incinerators? were those just more vaporware?
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:35 |
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That's it. I'm going over there, and I'm taking your nukes. Little boys don't get to have big boy rockets. Only big boys get to have big boy rockets.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:38 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:whatever happened to those mobile incinerators? were those just more vaporware? Those are called "T-72B3". Single-use though.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:39 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:whatever happened to those mobile incinerators? were those just more vaporware? I was wondering about this too. The mobile war-crime vacuum cleaners that you only pack if you're doing war crimes. Real Big Brain stuff.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:42 |
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tiaz posted:Wikipedia (citing NATO) puts Ukraine's casualties at 1:5 to Russia's. Russia is also probably experiencing a higher killed:wounded ratio in their casualty makeup. youre joking thats youre stats and source.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:43 |
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Wee posted:youre joking thats youre stats and source. There aren't going to be any great stats until the war is long over. Nobody knows fully, and the groups who know the most won't share.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:47 |
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I know them
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:51 |
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Storkrasch posted:There aren't going to be any great stats until the war is long over. Nobody knows fully, and the groups who know the most won't share. With how cagey people are about intel, you'd think there was a war on.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:55 |
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Storkrasch posted:There aren't going to be any great stats until the war is long over. Nobody knows fully, and the groups who know the most won't share. Its not world war one dude. They are known, If youre being hidden from them thats strange, because Russia and the Ukraine military and US advisors know.
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:56 |
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If it was peacetime they'd be like oops we misplaced precisely 263,731 individual persons existentially which is a real bummer, but they don't do they, heh gotcha krumblins!
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:57 |
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Wee posted:Its not world war one dude. They are known, If youre being hidden from them thats strange, because Russia and the Ukraine military and US advisors know. Post em if you dare. not the leaked poo poo ofc
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:58 |
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Wee posted:youre joking thats youre stats and source. no, both can be valid sources of information. also you asked in the first place so I will not be accepting poo poo from you wrt sources, if you have better let us know the "real" numbers
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# ? May 20, 2023 20:58 |
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Hang on let me dial into SIPRNet and log into the ol' JWICS to get the latest numbers.
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:01 |
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Gentlemen, you can't disclose top secret files in here! This is the war thunder room!
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:04 |
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Dandywalken posted:Post em if you dare. Exactly. And its not my battle with reality, its just me being weirded out with yours. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:04 |
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Wee posted:Its not world war one dude. They are known, If youre being hidden from them thats strange, because Russia and the Ukraine military and US advisors know. Hmm yes maybe they are hiding them just like they hid the real Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin in the Cheyenne Mountain Complex before replacing them with actors and/or alien ghosts???
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:05 |
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Storkrasch posted:Hmm yes maybe they are hiding them just like they hid the real Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin in the Cheyenne Mountain Complex before replacing them with actors and/or alien ghosts??? Ukranian soldiers have parents and sometimes wives and children. They are also soldiers. If they die in war people know. You can count them. Wee fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 20, 2023 |
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Karate Bastard posted:That's it. I'm going over there, and I'm taking your nukes. Little boys don't get to have big boy rockets. Only big boys get to have big boy rockets. follow me I have a secret route over the Bering I've been using to sneak there and poo poo in putins diaper
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:14 |
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Wee posted:Ukranian soldiers have parents and sometimes wives and children. They are also soldiers. Ok, thank you for your productive contributions???
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# ? May 20, 2023 21:20 |
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Wee posted:Ukranian soldiers have parents and sometimes wives and children. They are also soldiers. I'm sure someone in the Ukrainian military can conjure up some kind of estimate (including TDF? foreign fighters? paramilitary organisations? only confirmed deaths or including MIAs? POWs presumed dead?), but why would that be released publicly while the war is still going on, or even to the US officials? Russia will have to work for its intel, I doubt Ukraine will just give away valuable intel for the fun of it. The estimates that are released publicly are all clearly not correct, and the ones in in the US leaks have considerable margins of error. There aren't even known numbers of civilian deaths yet, so I doubt any real numbers will come out until any such numbers no longer hold any intel value.
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