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Eat My Fuc posted:Okada is the best ever world champion maybe. Roman’s run is hurt by the fact that he rarely wins clean anymore. I think the best champion is cody 
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Tampa Bae posted:The biggest difference between NJPW title defenses and WWE title defenses is that NJPW will sneak in someone like Karl Anderson every now and then and have an incredible match while when someone in a similar role sneaks into a title match in the WWE it's because they're "too over" and get squashed as punishment I wonder if HHH's quad exploding changed him mentally. He didn't seem so protective of his spot before that. He did that awesome match with TAKA, did the same for Jericho around the same time. He let himself look silly in stuff like the Angle/Steph love triangle. Then when he came back it was just cranky grunting reign of terror poo poo for 10 years.
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Didn’t hunter personally nuke the love triangle angle lol
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projecthalaxy posted:champion 
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Seams posted:Didn’t hunter personally nuke the love triangle angle lol I though it was Steph that said it was unrealistic that someone like her would fall for Kurt Angle, but I'm sure he was a part of it. But he did the funny bits with Steph catching him training Trish and falling into the 69 in the ring and stuff like that during the feud and he never did silly stuff after the quad injury until like the DX reunion and even that was just burying everyone and everything around him.
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saying Trips put over Jericho is like saying Hogan put over Kidman they might have won a match but spent the entire rest of the angle looking like the world’s biggest geek loser
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they've gotten in trouble before for saying they expected a big rights fee increase and then not getting one. surely this time will be different.
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RealityWarCriminal posted:they've gotten in trouble before for saying they expected a big rights fee increase and then not getting one. surely this time will be different. So much trouble they ended up making more money in the end
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reminder: Pretty Deadly are Pretty Good https://twitter.com/TheEnemiesPE3/status/1659721067991113728
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Unless rights deals collapse completely I think the WWE gets a raise, especially from USA. Of course rights deals may end up collapsing what with streaming in flux and cable/broadcast TV dying
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I think Fox moves on, NBCU/USA pays up, and Peacock won't last much longer regardless
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Fox does have a feel like it's just giving up and slowly dying as a network/media company so I can see them just passing on big rights and just ridding cheap reality shows till they are completely dead. I really get the feeling they're going to be out on the next NFL rights deal
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Fox does have a feel like it's just giving up and slowly dying as a network/media company so I can see them just passing on big rights and just ridding cheap reality shows till they are completely dead. I really get the feeling they're going to be out on the next NFL rights deal I mean network tv, as a medium, is dying. The only people that sit and watch cable tv anymore are all old as hell and getting older all the time. Their audience is literally dying.
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It's kinda wild that we're in a time where network/cable television is slowly dying but at the same time streaming, the thing that was supposed to replace it, feels like a bubble that's about to burst any minute now. There's like no security either way anymore.
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If streaming ever had a chance (I don't believe it did, and this era is going down in flames like it deserves) it was definitely not helped by them mishandling it at every turn. Doing it intentionally wouldn't have hosed it up as bad as it's been hosed up at this point, and it's holding on by threads
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It’s almost as if infinite growth isn’t actually possible, but who are we to doubt number
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DarkstarIV posted:reminder: Pretty Deadly are Pretty Good cool can't wait to see them if they ever leave WWE
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bartok posted:cool can't wait to see them if they ever leave WWE Eddie Guerrero esque
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Maybe I’m missing the rules of that match but I don’t feel like doing a double team move in a tag match is that dastardly
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lol until seeing that clip I thought pretty deadly was the selfie guy and fandango
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Drakkel posted:It's kinda wild that we're in a time where network/cable television is slowly dying but at the same time streaming, the thing that was supposed to replace it, feels like a bubble that's about to burst any minute now. There's like no security either way anymore. Checks out for tech replacements *eyes Uber*
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Answers Me posted:Maybe I’m missing the rules of that match but I don’t feel like doing a double team move in a tag match is that dastardly I thought the same. It must be singles match? If it's a tag match, it makes no sense.
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Alan_Shore posted:I thought the same. It must be singles match? If it's a tag match, it makes no sense. no it was a tag match lol
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Kvlt! posted:no it was a tag match lol Sweet Christ
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turns out the Dudleys were cheating every time they won, who knew
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it is high time we institute instant replay for refs in pro wrestling!!
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Remember that one time WWE had a rule for like one week where if the non-legal man laid hands on their opponents for any reason it was an instant DQ no matter what
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Chris James 2 posted:If streaming ever had a chance (I don't believe it did, and this era is going down in flames like it deserves) it was definitely not helped by them mishandling it at every turn. Doing it intentionally wouldn't have hosed it up as bad as it's been hosed up at this point, and it's holding on by threads So what is the future?
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Same as it ever was. Quibli.
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Pillowpants posted:So what is the future? CG wrestling. Ever wanted to see Prime Hulk Hogan versus Roman Reigns? Buy the new WWE app for $17 per month to make it happen.
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Writer Cath posted:CG wrestling. Ever wanted to see Prime Hulk Hogan versus Roman Reigns? Buy the new WWE app for $17 per month to make it happen. I’d rather watch Satans Tv Network broadcasting Benoit and Guerrero vs Mr Perfect and Owen Hart for the tag titles
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Chris James 2 posted:A belt existing for 4 years and having both a) that cursed a history already of champs who either mean nothing or didn't stay (a full fourth of the talent that have won it, 6/24, abandoned ship; Sasha, the Iiconics, Kairi, Nia, Naomi) because they felt they meant nothing, and b) nobody ever holding it for even half a year because you can't be bothered to care about booking the division that stably for that long, feels like it'd be impressive if any other company pulled it off  I think, and I'm going to loop AEW into this as well, that American women's wrestling can't really support a tag team division because the end goal with every female wrestler is to be the main event solo star on some show somewhere at some point. There isn't any motivation to put two women together for a long run where they work together and develop their styles to compliment each other and work out good matches that they can pull off with a variety of opponents.
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projecthalaxy posted:Roman's long Universal reign, per cagematch (non snowflaked matches omitted): My takeaway of this is Dave grossly underrated Okada v Shibata
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Chris James 2 posted:If streaming ever had a chance (I don't believe it did, and this era is going down in flames like it deserves) it was definitely not helped by them mishandling it at every turn. Doing it intentionally wouldn't have hosed it up as bad as it's been hosed up at this point, and it's holding on by threads I'd rather pay $5 to rent a movie I want to watch on Amazon than pay $8-12 to get a streaming service I'll use once or twice that month.
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Why did the guy tie himself back up in the ropes instead of just sliding out of the ring or going back to his corner? 
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In my mind for a successful tag division you need a dedicated tag division. Wrestlers primary focused on tag wrestling and getting regular time. Bare minimum I think that’s enough teams to run a tournament so 8. Minimum. But yeah. Womens divisions in America are always a fraction of the mens to start with a disproportionately small amount of tv time. So if they then have them pulling double duty in a tag division with tossed together teams that are all means to an end of a singles push you’ve just got two bad divisions. Or one bad and one plot device.
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Pillowpants posted:So what is the future? I mentioned it elsewhere during a similar discussion a bit ago, basically a) this finishes falling apart as it's expected to, and we go back to the old ways/pre-streaming which were never bad or inconvenient or expensive and never resulted in en-masse memory-holing (unless companies were just careless as policy, which did happen but nowhere near as often as titles are just straight-up now being deleted forever, outside of piracy, with the reasoning being an imaginary tax benefit that lasts seconds in realtime on their accounts), or b) this finishes falling apart as it's expected to, and the companies react to their bluff and greed being called and vastly rejected by doubling down on panicking and agreeing to be sold off to the same two or three companies, the system of monopolies gets worse and sped up faster than they tried to make it during this period (instead of where it veered off a bit halfway through, where everyone decided they wanted to have their own chunk of the pie), and those 2-3 companies total are the only ones that have any say going forward when the dust settles How much their products cost, how long their library is able to be viewed, how accessible it is, how much promotion it gets; it just blends into the void at no mercy like everything else that particular owner swallowed. Essentially the Disney Vault but now applied to literally everyone and with a lot more more-recent stuff being memory-holed, which means actually anything released earlier than 1985 (as opposed to recently where it was just much harder to find stuff from earlier than the 60s) would be inaccessible barring early physical media or  , at a time when the courts are already trying to legitimately also wipe out the Internet Archive, and Google's already at least openly considering deleting all Youtube videos from accounts inactive longer than 1 year 364 daysObviously I'd rather have a) NorgLyle posted:There isn't any motivation to put two women together for a long run where they work together and develop their styles to compliment each other and work out good matches that they can pull off with a variety of opponents. I agree that this seems to be the case with how the US treats women's tag wrestling in general, and it sucks because there should be. Or at least the concept shouldn't have been treated as a roster-wide "who can we make the Shawn and who's the Jannetty out of these two" Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 06:49 on May 21, 2023 |
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Honestly even men's tag wrestling is still recovering from decades of WWE/WCW booking so Women's Tag Wrestling is starting even further back than that
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Fox does have a feel like it's just giving up and slowly dying as a network/media company so I can see them just passing on big rights and just ridding cheap reality shows till they are completely dead. I really get the feeling they're going to be out on the next NFL rights deal WWE is going to miss out on more than a billion dollars because Gordon Ramsay is bringing back Kitchen Nightmares.
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