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sticksy posted:I realize i'm the op for this thread but for some reason it doesn't allow me to change the thread title, which it should now be: Video clip, though not about Barry  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9cJW9T9RAc
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mcbexx posted:Well, events of next week pending, there needs a pitch to be happening at HBO, stat. even if Hank dies the show can take place during the time skip
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May 23, 2023 00:26
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Show rules. Gene so easily turning on his supposed newfound principles the instant his ego is jerked off the right way... the shows misanthropic thesis that we can't reslly change and are doomed to perpetute cycles of abuse shouldn't be soil for such halirity and yet... Man Noho Hank for once just doing the bad guy thing straight in that last scene without mincing about really was a bit chilling in contrast since we seldom (never?) see him.that way.
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May 23, 2023 00:34
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Owlbear Camus posted:Show rules. It's rough because it makes you feel like the thesis isn't that we can't change, just that we can't change for the better.
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May 23, 2023 00:42
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Owlbear Camus posted:Man Noho Hank for once just doing the bad guy thing straight in that last scene without mincing about really was a bit chilling in contrast since we seldom (never?) see him.that way. Yeah, it’s what makes it so powerful when it happens since it punctures his usual cheery demeanor. there’s been a couple times off of the top of my head, like in S2 when he’s outside of the theatre and Barry calls him stupid, his tone immediately changes and he directly threatens Sally. That was one of the first times when you kinda realize the Chechen mobster with a heart of gold is still a Chechen mobster. In short: Owlbear Camus posted:Show rules. e: one thing I’m wondering if they’re going to resolve anything with the flashbacks to Barry as a kid or if that was just to show his weird homelife and compare/contrast to him being a parent now, also in a barren tract of land without friends or connections for his son.
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May 23, 2023 00:50
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Lmao is the coke that Hank gets from the old lady the same one that the son has later
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May 23, 2023 01:06
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I am going to be so drat sad when this and Succession end next week. *Also, can someone remind me where the $250k came into play? I can't remember how Barry got it, and at one point he gave it to Fuches. Hughmoris fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 23, 2023 |
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May 23, 2023 01:23
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mcbexx posted:Well, events of next week pending, there needs a pitch to be happening at HBO, stat. Okay this is reminding me of a TV show that did one episode with an alternate title sequence/name just for fun, does anyone know what this might have been?
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May 23, 2023 01:34
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ruddiger posted:Moss leaving Barry’s legs untied and alone all day seemed way too convenient and the stuff with the money is just too big of a stretch for him to care about, but I guess they needed to end it on a shot of Barry getting ready to go on a berserker frenzy to remind us why he’d be a perfect character for a Mark Wahlberg movie. I feel like this might have been set up for Barry to contact/get Sally, the last loose end of the case, but I can't be sure. But Moss also might feel like Barry was just an end to the means and believes Gene was the true mastermind to the entire thing. Then again, somehow Moss lost Barry before the 8-year jump which, given his hyper competence feels out of character? I dunno this all feels like way too much for a single episode to wrap up in a half hour. I have to imagine several people are going to straight up bite it.
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May 23, 2023 01:45
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Human Tornada posted:Okay this is reminding me of a TV show that did one episode with an alternate title sequence/name just for fun, does anyone know what this might have been? Man Seeking Woman did it for a couple episodes. drat, I miss that show.
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May 23, 2023 01:55
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Barry’s hand in that shot looked like a wound of Christ
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May 23, 2023 02:11
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GRRM: I can't get the time skip perfect, I will need to write everything that happens in excruciating detail Bill Hader: YOLO and it worked
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May 23, 2023 02:39
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Fancy Hat! posted:
He was in the right place at the right time, but likely didn't anticipate Sally going along with it. That's why Barry got away.
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May 23, 2023 02:56
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May 23, 2023 02:57
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Ghosthotel posted:I've never gotten the vibe that Barry is actually religious, it's just something he's latched onto because he thinks it'll make him a "good" person. It’s his new acting class. A distraction that he uses to both suppress and justify his violent/sociopathic urges.
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May 23, 2023 03:37
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They thing I don’t like about the time skip is we never got the honest conversation between Barry and Sally. That’s always the part of these shows that I live for, where a character stops lying and lays it all out. We got that with Barry and Gene last season, and I really wanted to see Barry come clean with Sally. Maybe we’ll get Fuques coming clean with Barry. If half the last episode is just them talking I’d be a happy man.
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May 23, 2023 03:46
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lifg posted:Maybe we’ll get Fuques coming clean with Barry. If half the last episode is just them talking I’d be a happy man. Same, honestly.
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May 23, 2023 03:48
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I feel a lot if y’all gonna be disappointed.
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May 23, 2023 04:47
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GreenNight posted:I feel a lot if y’all gonna be disappointed. Honestly I think so too. I love the show but it feels like maybe 1 hour of wrap up instead of a tight 30. I hope it sticks the landing but I have my hesitation.
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May 23, 2023 04:58
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lifg posted:Maybe we’ll get Fuques coming clean with Barry. If half the last episode is just them talking I’d be a happy man. Come clean about what? That he's a narcissist and thinks Barry is Rain Man? What does he have left to say to him?
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May 23, 2023 05:10
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As long as I’m entertained I’m ok. I don’t need it to answer everything. But I agree, I feel like there is more than one episode of material to mine. Either way I’m fine. The show has been a hell of a ride.
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May 23, 2023 05:12
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Barry has always rushed plot points. That and the 30 minute runtime are refreshing in the era of ~prestige television~
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May 23, 2023 05:31
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Hell yeah this is good TV! Like that Sally quote in acting class about people showing their worst ugly side etc, that's kind of what the show is, especially this season. We can all relate to and connect with that, even if we're not quite in their shoes. I think a show as grimly sharp and satirical as Barry isn't working on such a surface level to say the fans must know Barry et al are bad etc. Or that we need to see them punished. Since you can tell how much they love vintage cinema, think of those cool New Hollywood movies with the grim amoral stories etc. I don't think Barry is about us judging the characters. Say American Gigolo etc. It does seem to be saying everyone can be kind of selfish and broken, doomed by their upbringing. And maybe we should all be a bit more excellent to eachother, like Bill & Ted. And maybe it's also just a clever crime comedy satirical drama romp and it's not something with a big underlying message. Or maybe it is. From the first time we heard "starting now" I felt that really resonated, and a big part of the show seemed to be kind of saying wake up, quit thinking you'll change everything overnight. Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results or whatever. Wherever you go, there you are. Yabba Dabba Doo. I was entertained, that's for sure. I'll say I was expecting one of those classic TV conversation scenes with Moss in his famous garage, and we didn't get that. And I have no idea what they're doing with him, but I expect it'll land satisfyingly. Taking a sharp left turn is the Barry way. drat fine show. Also, I feel like Gene gets a somewhat disproportionate amount of guff is all, maybe because on paper he appears to be a less damned character, so people want to point out his flaws more. I'll say he sure is one of my fav characters. That he has these big flaws makes him all the more lovable and memorable of a character. Anyways, maybe that's just my bag, I like pointing out how the show is totally above good/bad it's about the human condition, told in a very heightened satirical way. And I'd like to point out this is one of the finest TV shows in some time. Also, the red curtains in the scary vision scene, I hope David Lynch got a free Bob's Big Boy shake from the Barry production. A tip of the cap to the czar of bizarre. One bit of critique, I don't think Sally hallucinating in the street scene really worked, it feels a little too easy of a shorthand to just have people seeing things like that so much. Especially when she seemed to be having a moment of clarity. But I like that the show is loose and feels like it's going with its gut. Anyways, I'm pumped for the final ep. Here's hoping for more writing and directing from Bill and friends. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 06:35 on May 23, 2023 |
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May 23, 2023 06:27
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EvilBlackRailgun posted:Barry has always rushed plot points. That and the 30 minute runtime are refreshing in the era of ~prestige television~ Too lazy to find the interview but it was pretty funny seeing him basically say "who cares" about the specifics of the time skip because it wasn't interesting
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May 23, 2023 06:49
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Yeah the show establishes early on that the world within the show is just a giant goof so you shouldn't try to read into it too much. Unfortunately, by becoming as dramatic as it has, that will cause people to want more depth out of it than it can offer.
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May 23, 2023 09:11
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This season's attitude towards some of the character logistics is a little jarring probably because aside from Hank rescuing Cristobal, it's been just season 4 where the show fully leaped into the characters going back and forth from LA to different locations off-screen and having significant time lapses between both scenes and whole episodes. Some of the disconnect is the show's tone as well. The first two to three seasons mostly played like Get Shorty as done by the Coen Brothers. But throughout Season 4, Barry now feels more like a goofier version of Inland Empire or Mulholland Drive, its comedic bits hewing more to the tone of Mulholland Drive's world's worst hitman scene, with a bit of Twin Peaks' Dwarf Assassin and the Gangland Arm Wrestling contest for good measure. I really like how Barry has progressed but I wonder, pending how the finale pulls it all together, if stepping away from Fuches, Moss, Hank, and for the most part Gene for a whole episode is what's making the show's final beats seem a bit rushed. CPFortest fucked around with this message at 09:23 on May 23, 2023 |
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Human Tornada posted:Okay this is reminding me of a TV show that did one episode with an alternate title sequence/name just for fun, does anyone know what this might have been? Psych did that a bunch of times. Also 30 Rock.
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Human Tornada posted:Okay this is reminding me of a TV show that did one episode with an alternate title sequence/name just for fun, does anyone know what this might have been? They didn't change the name but Girls had this great change up mimicking Enter the Void. Can't find it tho
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May 23, 2023 13:00
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Phoix posted:Too lazy to find the interview but it was pretty funny seeing him basically say "who cares" about the specifics of the time skip because it wasn't interesting I agree with him that the time skip is not interesting.
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May 23, 2023 13:11
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Robobot posted:I agree with him that the time skip is not interesting. Yeah, I don't find it particularly interesting either. Tell the story you've been telling for 5+ years, there is no need to try and switch it up at the end. Yes, I know, we've seen a few 10 second glimpses at a possible future throughout the series. I think I'm growing overly tired of time-jumps as a crutch for storytelling.
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Gentlemen can disagree but I think it's perfectly in keeping with the themes of the show. You stand in your own way of what you think you want or think you're supposed to want. There is no happily ever after. You can't change, at least not for the better. You're doomed to inflict what was done to you on others. By putting the characters in their "happily ever after" (escaped and with their True Love, the raven, sand mogul/mob boss, ostensiably freed from their showbiz narcasism) and showing they're still actually hosed up is perfectly in keeping, if misanthropic bordering on nihilistic. It's a credit to the writing they wring laugh out loud humor from such a bleak canvas.
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prediction 1: all factions kill each other. Again prediction 2: everyone pays barista guru guy a visit and the finale ends in one big namaste
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May 23, 2023 15:15
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Prediction 3: Not a single person dies in the finale
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May 23, 2023 15:20
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Barry's kid kills Hank and his crew in a fit of rage and the next scene is the Barry family moving into their new digs at nohohank
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May 23, 2023 15:25
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Next week isn’t actually the series finale, it was all a joke and they’ll surprise reveal another season in the last 30 seconds.
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May 23, 2023 15:33
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It will be the stealth pilot of the Noho Hank spinoff.
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I read that Anthony Carrigan was struggling with finding roles due to his alopecia, which made him just try even harder. It's interesting because if it weren't for his alopecia, he might've been lost in a sea of similar looking faces. The alopecia made him more suitable to play Victor Zsasz on Gotham, which is where I discovered him. I can't wait to see what he does next. He definitely deserves a lead role
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May 23, 2023 15:41
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He got this role by just making up an accent and they loved it.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Gentlemen can disagree but I think it's perfectly in keeping with the themes of the show. I think it’s a good idea, but it hasn’t translated well for me. It totally removed all the built up tension of the last five seasons and only added the kid as a new character (and I use that loosely). So far he’s just been there to kinda take abuse. Like a last ditch effort by the writers to wash away whatever sympathy for Barry and Sally the audience may have had. I get what they’re going for, and I think they’re doing it successfully. I just don’t think it was necessary and it’s kinda taken me out of the last few episodes. I’m sure on a rewatch I’ll be pleased as punch because everything is so well written. I’m just a bit disappointed in the direction they took the end game but I’m still excited to see the finale.
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