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The Russians did the creeping Little Green Men thing to Ukraine for eight years, it seems fair that they should find out what "I'm not touching you!" on the national scale feels like in return.
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# ? May 23, 2023 17:38 |
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I mean if you're going to take advantage of neo-nazis having a shared enemity with the dudes that are shelling your country to hell sending them on a diversionary suicide mission has to be the least objectionable way to go about it
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# ? May 23, 2023 17:54 |
bulletsponge13 posted:Using Ukrainian equipment means little in that region, I would imagine- so much has been captured by both sides, I imagine that's part of the 'fun'. Technically speaking, according to Russian political propaganda, *all* the Ukrainians are just disaffected Russians.
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# ? May 23, 2023 18:54 |
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shame on an IGA posted:I mean if you're going to take advantage of neo-nazis having a shared enemity with the dudes that are shelling your country to hell sending them on a diversionary suicide mission has to be the least objectionable way to go about it Yeah. Treat them like unwanted change... drop them in a pocket and forget about them. Although you really want to be sure the suicide part of the plan to kicks in before they get near the nuke store. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 19:13 on May 23, 2023 |
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psydude posted:Of course it's a Ukrainian-run operation. They're denying it while winking just like they have with every other attack they've done on Russian soil. Pretty much. The only thing the Russians have left is nuclear weapons, which they are not going to employ.
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# ? May 23, 2023 19:39 |
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Cimber posted:Pretty much. The only thing the Russians have left is nuclear weapons, which they are not going to employ. And even with them it is a question mark how deep the rot is on their nuclear arsenal with the economic crisis of 90's and deep deep corruption afterwards, but for a very obvious reason no-one wants to find out the answer to that.
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Der Kyhe posted:And even with them it is a question mark how deep the rot is on their nuclear arsenal with the economic crisis of 90's and deep deep corruption afterwards, but for a very obvious reason no-one wants to find out the answer to that. Yeah, I don't think gambling on "absolutely, 100% of their nukes do not work/will not launch/will not detonate, and any attempted world ending will fail" is a good idea.
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# ? May 23, 2023 19:48 |
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Does anyone else remember National Security experts losing their poo poo after the fall of the USSR? I remember reading and hearing scare stories of Soviet SADM Rucksack Nukes and pilfered material. I wonder how many were accurate.
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# ? May 23, 2023 20:08 |
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Alan Smithee posted:the Finnish are already sending troops Russia started it, they Finnish?
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# ? May 23, 2023 20:18 |
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Alan Smithee posted:the Finnish are already sending troops Gotta avenge that one early volunteer's Best of Kake Randelin CD.
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# ? May 23, 2023 21:41 |
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bulletsponge13 posted:Does anyone else remember National Security experts losing their poo poo after the fall of the USSR? I remember reading and hearing scare stories of Soviet SADM Rucksack Nukes and pilfered material. I wonder how many were accurate. Turns out all the nuclear weapons that were missing from the stocks just never existed, but were invented to make things look good to high command. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1661122966334197760 quote:A large unit of 28 Russian soldiers surrendered to Ukrainians together with officers. After a defeat in Avdiivka by the UAF's 59th Motor Rifle Brigade on 21 May, surviving soldiers of the Russian 110th Brigade, assault platoons specifically, surrendered, and recorded a video accusing the Russian command of sending them to sure death. The most senior officer is in the rank of Captain. Feels like the first time I've seen surrendered officers. That's also a pretty big bunch to surrender all at once.
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# ? May 23, 2023 22:46 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Well, if they are truly independent of Ukraine we should probably all be hoping the Russians kill them before they can get to Belgorod-22. Well, Belgorod-22 is under control of the 12th GUMO since they store nukes there, and I doubt that 12th GUMO got hollowed out like the rest of the Russian military. (according to wikipedia, the unit in charge of Belgorod 22 is v/ch 34037 Graivoron p. Golovchino (Belgorod-22)) How can you go "muh nooks" if your troops guarding and handling the nooks are no more? They probably are pretty high on the hog as far as gear and training in the military, and assaulting Belgorod-22 would be a quick ticket to a body bag. Orrr it could be like the USAF dudes out at like Minot ND and they're miserable as gently caress, underpaid, underappreciated, and no-one gives a gently caress about them, their morale is poo poo and they have high suicides. Can't really tell because Wikipedia says they're more secretive than the fuckin GRU. If they somehow manage to reach Belgorod-22 yeah that's really bad though. They wouldn't be able to do poo poo with the weapons if they acquired them, but revolutionaries having access to nuclear material is really high on the "oh poo poo" list. orange juche fucked around with this message at 01:05 on May 24, 2023 |
# ? May 24, 2023 00:53 |
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psydude posted:I just find the notion of a band singing about World War I and World War II too cheesey, even by power metal standards. Listen to 1916 by Motörhead. I don’t see how you could call that cheesy.
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# ? May 24, 2023 01:07 |
And the band played waltzing matilda
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# ? May 24, 2023 01:14 |
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mlmp08 posted:Putting the image macro on, but leaving it all nazi symbols on the uniforms, 2/10. Good news! This was noted and addressed
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# ? May 24, 2023 01:28 |
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An interesting tidbit. Otherwise, today's DOD press brief didn't have much about Ukraine. There are only so many ways to ask "when will Ukraine get F-16s" and receive an answer of "Don't know yet" or ways to ask "Was defending Bakhmut worth it" and getting the answer of "Ask Ukraine, but Russia took a lot of casualties" in return. https://www.defense.gov/News/Transc...press-briefing/ quote:GEN. RYDER: You know, look, as I mentioned before, we have been working very closely with our allies and partners to help Ukraine build up its combat power. They have nine mechanized armored brigades that we've provided, they have significant air defense capability. The entire world has come together to ensure that they have ammunition, and importantly, we're also providing training and we're working very closely with them on sustainment and logistics aspects. And this bit: quote:Q: Thank you, General. Regarding to F-16s, what assurances do you have from Ukraine that they will not use these F-16s to fire into Russia -- I mean, their territory, which could widen this war? Thank you.
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# ? May 24, 2023 01:29 |
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bulletsponge13 posted:Does anyone else remember National Security experts losing their poo poo after the fall of the USSR? I remember reading and hearing scare stories of Soviet SADM Rucksack Nukes and pilfered material. I wonder how many were accurate. https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=33596 is a fun read regarding all the material laying around that needed to be got rid of, not least because it was still an ongoing task in like 2020
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# ? May 24, 2023 01:47 |
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https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1661037540076290048?s=20 Okay, this one made me check to see if it wasn't an imposter account
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# ? May 24, 2023 04:22 |
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1661037540076290048?s=20 Ukraine NOOOOO
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# ? May 24, 2023 05:09 |
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Carth Dookie posted:Ukraine NOOOOO It's trolling Girkin. He really loves Harry Potter to the point where a few months ago he wrote some extremely racist Harry Potter fanfiction in which Hogwarts was overrun by Chinese and Indian people https://vk.com/@iistrelkov-progulki-po-hogvartsu-s-ritoi-skiter
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HonorableTB posted:It's trolling Girkin. He really loves Harry Potter to the point where a few months ago he wrote some extremely racist Harry Potter fanfiction in which Hogwarts was overrun by Chinese and Indian people Just when I thought Girkin couldn't become sadder. I can't even hate him, even though he's a war criminal that killed civilians, he's just... such a loser.
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HonorableTB posted:It's trolling Girkin. He really loves Harry Potter to the point where a few months ago he wrote some extremely racist Harry Potter fanfiction in which Hogwarts was overrun by Chinese and Indian people As cringe as those AI photos are, it’s also an accidental trolling of JK Rowling as well. She’d love to retweet that and show support for Ukraine, but the thumbnail of the tweet is an actor who is staunchly pro-trans rights in direct opposition to JK’s bigotry so she’ll probably quietly seethe and pretend she never saw it.
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https://twitter.com/Sandbagger_01/status/1661329915113816064?s=20 Bestest of friends.
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Hannibal Rex posted:https://twitter.com/Sandbagger_01/status/1661329915113816064?s=20 Just like us and Israel.
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https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 So one thing I don't quite get, is that everything I've seen so far of marine drones seems to be operating on the surface. Wouldn't they be a lot harder to counter if they were under the surface? I.e. submarine drones? So what it is that that seems to make the surface-operating ones more common?
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Hannibal Rex posted:https://twitter.com/Sandbagger_01/status/1661329915113816064?s=20 Given the performance of Russia's hypersonic missiles so far, I think China might want to ask for their bribe money back.
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# ? May 24, 2023 17:31 |
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 Making things that go under water is really hard, including navigation and talking to it (ie target selection)
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 My best rear end-pulling guess is difficulty of radio communications under water.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 Underwater drones, a.k.a torpedos are some combination of slower and shorter range and more expensive. A boat floating on the surface lets you get a lot of speed and a lot of payload for cheap. Also, way easier to talk to from the surface.
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PurpleXVI posted:So one thing I don't quite get, is that everything I've seen so far of marine drones seems to be operating on the surface. Wouldn't they be a lot harder to counter if they were under the surface? I.e. submarine drones? So what it is that that seems to make the surface-operating ones more common? Communicating with a submersed partner is a lot harder then with a normal one. In practice that means that you would need impractically larger antennas on at least one end of the control loop.
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 E: beaten like a Wagner platoon
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All of your "Why not do X?" questions had been answered since 1997 with the initial rollout of the Mk48 Mod 5. The reason Ukraine isn't using them is that they're $4,000,000 a pop and require an equally capable launch platform.
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Thanks for the replies, that makes a lot of sense.M_Gargantua posted:All of your "Why not do X?" questions had been answered since 1997 with the initial rollout of the Mk48 Mod 5. And hey, Ukraine's been given a lot of expensive hardware few people expected so far, give it a couple of months and they might get these, too.
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https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1661388123354398723?s=20
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PurpleXVI posted:Thanks for the replies, that makes a lot of sense. They’ll kludge one together somehow, and once they can make it organically there won’t be much concern with giving them something purpose-built.
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# ? May 24, 2023 20:19 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:And the band played waltzing matilda
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# ? May 24, 2023 20:39 |
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Murgos posted:Listen to 1916 by Motörhead. I don’t see how you could call that cheesy. Iron Maiden's Paschendaele too.
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PurpleXVI posted:Thanks for the replies, that makes a lot of sense. Ukraine is working on it, though: quote:The Russian Navy has a new problem in the Black Sea. Ukrainian group Brave-1 have shown their Toloka weaponized UUV (uncrewed underwater vehicle). The design is evidently intended to operate as a form of loitering torpedo. http://www.hisutton.com/New-Ukraine-Underwater-Maritime-Drone.html
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PurpleXVI posted:https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1661382232190140416 Controlling something remotely underwater is a much more difficult engineering solution than making a big rc boat.
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Communication underwater is generally very very difficult because of all the water. Radio waves don't work so good under the waves (heh)
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