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Air Skwirl posted:Good news, it's getting rebooted with a different creative team. Well, at least it's not being written by Tom King (yet).
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Azubah posted:God dammit, did I jinx it? It was announced a while ago, Simon Spurrier writing with Deodato on art. 800 will be the last issue with the current team.
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May 16, 2023 19:07
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Azubah posted:God dammit, did I jinx it? It was already dead.
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I think I figured out what was bugging me about the Dawn of DC Catwoman run (reading a month behind on Infinite): I've kinda always assumed Catwoman didn't really have a secret identity? Like, she's clearly been in prison a few times, so like... I figured it was public knowledge she was Catwoman? But this run definitely implies that people think Catwoman is a separate individual (and ALSO that people know Eiko's not the real one) until Selina tells them otherwise.
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May 18, 2023 00:11
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Gaz-L posted:I think I figured out what was bugging me about the Dawn of DC Catwoman run (reading a month behind on Infinite): I've kinda always assumed Catwoman didn't really have a secret identity? Like, she's clearly been in prison a few times, so like... I figured it was public knowledge she was Catwoman? But this run definitely implies that people think Catwoman is a separate individual (and ALSO that people know Eiko's not the real one) until Selina tells them otherwise. Has catwoman been in prison post COIE?
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I think the idea of the public knowing Selina Kyle is/isn't Catwoman has been done so inconsistently throughout her history that I can't even apply the word "retcon" to it. Like you can have one issue be "Selina Kyle, also known as the Catwoman, robbed a jewlery store today...." and a year later have a story go "Selina Kyle, the wealthy socialite whos riches remain a mystery..." without any explanation between how people know/don't know who she is. edit: she was framed for attempted murder of Jim Gordon in Officer Down and I'm pretty sure they knew who she was.
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May 18, 2023 01:32
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I don’t know a lot about the Titans outside Nightwing and Flash (I know most about them from the teen titans cartoon). I enjoyed the first issue. Obviously the plan is to undo the thing that happened, that’s the solution to the mystery.
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May 18, 2023 01:41
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Yeah, Titans was enjoyable. Interesting they pulled the trigger on Beast Boy and Raven which felt like they toyed with for ages but never did before. Admittedly the last few Titans series have been kind of dreadful so if it happened there I wouldn't be surprised.
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Madkal posted:I think the idea of the public knowing Selina Kyle is/isn't Catwoman has been done so inconsistently throughout her history that I can't even apply the word "retcon" to it. Like you can have one issue be "Selina Kyle, also known as the Catwoman, robbed a jewlery store today...." and a year later have a story go "Selina Kyle, the wealthy socialite whos riches remain a mystery..." without any explanation between how people know/don't know who she is. It also doesn't help that she interacts with the Bats a lot, as they all know so it's easy to assume everyone does. I feel like a writer needs to be very explicit about her identity status if it's a plot point.
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I'm quite sad that this is basically the end of the Jeremy Adams Flash run. I wish it had been more popular, had more people supporting or buying it so he could've actually gotten to his long term plans. Compared to Williamson's roundabout of mediocrity it was a breath of fresh hair and got less then half the time. I hope Spurrier's stuff is good but I am already not a fan of the Deodato art we've seen (it always looks like a loving badly rendered CGI still frame to me I dunno) and I was skeptical of Spurrier coming in.
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May 19, 2023 08:41
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Big agree but at least he got moved to Green Lantern so it could get the fun breath of fresh air that might keep it from failing yet again. First issue does a good job of making Hal a cocky likeable guy instead of the blandest person whose only character trait is fearless.
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Mr Hootington posted:Has catwoman been in prison post COIE? But then she escaped before Batman could bring her to Blackgate and helped Holly skip town under an assumed identity and it turned out she was systematically murdering 237 members of a terrorist cell and ended up captured by the League of Assassins in retaliation and ended up in Arkham Asylum I guess on the 237 counts of murder charge. But then... she was in cahoots with Bane the whole time! Maybe! She got to appear in the group shot of everyone conspiring against Batman and Bane's throne of skulls in Batman #50 and hasn't been seen since. All of which is to say that I assume that Selina Kyle's identity was revealed to the world when she/Catwoman was arrested and tried and convicted for a couple hundred murders, but re-reading the story most of that happens off-panel so maybe it didn't make the news?
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Edge & Christian posted:At least as recently as Rebirth, she was tried and convicted of murdering 237 people in Tom King's Batman. It was revealed that she was framed for the 237 murders by Holly Robinson, who I guess was a serial killer? But Selina felt bad that she let her childhood friend turn into a serial killer so she took the fall for 237 murders and was tried and sentenced to being kept in Arkham until her execution date. Then Batman formed his own Suicide Squad and chose Selina to be on it, after which she had her sentence reduced from the death penalty to life in prison in Blackgate. This sucks. Edit: what you described. Not the posy. Appreciate the answer.
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Edge & Christian posted:All of which is to say that I assume that Selina Kyle's identity was revealed to the world when she/Catwoman was arrested and tried and convicted for a couple hundred murders, but re-reading the story most of that happens off-panel so maybe it didn't make the news? This is terrible and feels like an awful use of Holly, but then Tom King.
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Dawgstar posted:This is terrible and feels like an awful use of Holly, but then Tom King. It did remind me about when Ed Brubaker used her in Catwoman and literally forgot she'd been killed off.
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May 19, 2023 14:32
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Holly is clearly becoming the unpopular middle child Catwoman between Selina and Eiko
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Azubah posted:Flash needs to stop being such a fun comic, I'm not used to DC running something so joyful.  
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I need to know more about this purple pro wrestler.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:I need to know more about this purple pro wrestler. He's just one more reason to read Green Lantern, and one more reason to be bitter about the new Flash creative team.
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Mr Hootington posted:This sucks. The two parter Rooftops that resulted from this was excellent though.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:I need to know more about this purple pro wrestler. Wally teamed up with him for a wrestling match and he's always ready for a good fight.
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Please tell me that's just DC making Rasslor official.
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Basically. He's a really good dude.
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I'm around 9 issues into Adams' run on Flash and the writing is pretty great; the only drawback is that the art is not as good. If this run had more interesting artists, it would have gotten more attention
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Yeah the art was definitely the down side. If it had a big name artist it might've caught more support. I imagine DC just thought it was a fill in for awhile and got surprised by positive reactions.
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You're reading the Batman Underworld Unleashed stuff I assume. I remember the Mindbender arc in Detective Comics being one of those comics I read til the covers came off. I think the Batman issue had Mr. Freeze and Robin was Killer Moth.
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Madkal posted:You're reading the Batman Underworld Unleashed stuff I assume. I remember the Mindbender arc in Detective Comics being one of those comics I read til the covers came off. I think the Batman issue had Mr. Freeze and Robin was Killer Moth. I read the main crossover. It was bad. I haven't read the Batman issues yet, but I see this is when Mr freeze receives his make over and retcon.
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Mr Hootington posted:I read the main crossover. It was bad. I haven't read the Batman issues yet, but I see this is when Mr freeze receives his make over and retcon. The Flash tie-in involving the Rogues is usually well regarded.
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How long was Killer Moth literally a giant killer moth, anyway? Did Charaxas have a notable tenure?
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Scuba Trooper posted:How long was Killer Moth literally a giant killer moth, anyway? Did Charaxas have a notable tenure? Underworld unleashed until infinite crisis when he was torn in half.
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Jesus. Just let Killer Moth be silly
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They love to take goofy bad guys and make them into hosed up killers, but it would be way more fun to do the opposite
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I recently got a copy of Chase, a late 90's DC title that had an interesting premise that went absolutely nowhere in its own title. The most famous thing about the title is that it was drawn by J.H Williams III. It is interesting to see plotting and pacing for a title pre-2000s where everything became multi issue arcs for trades, though Chase is really a bad case of the opposite. Outside a few 2 or 3 parters in its 10 issue run the comic feels really disjointed. The premise is Cameron Chase works for the Department of Extranormal Operations, a government organization who are very mysterious (or not) in what they actually do. Chase is a regular person (or is she) who is hired to keep tabs on heroes. It is hinted (and shown) that Chase has some weird powers of her own that she isn't fully aware about. This plotline goes nowhere and seems to be dropped/forgotten. Three issues of it's 10 issue run are flashback issues, two of which are basically Chase and her friends going "remember that time when....". There doesn't seem to be any planning on storyline and any cool ideas are dropped by the next issue. It's really a shame because there are some fun ideas in the plot of Chase but these ideas are never explored. I wonder if the title was cancelled before anything could be fully fleshed out, but it did get a 10 issue run and didn't really do much, so.... Overall, nice artwork. I was looking forward to more though, and it just felt like wasted potential. As much as a rag on the early 2000s type of story telling which required a 6 issue arc for anything to happen (usually issue 4 onwards) this just felt so disjointed and meandering.
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Madkal posted:I recently got a copy of Chase, a late 90's DC title that had an interesting premise that went absolutely nowhere in its own title. The most famous thing about the title is that it was drawn by J.H Williams III. It is interesting to see plotting and pacing for a title pre-2000s where everything became multi issue arcs for trades, though Chase is really a bad case of the opposite. Outside a few 2 or 3 parters in its 10 issue run the comic feels really disjointed. The premise is Cameron Chase works for the Department of Extranormal Operations, a government organization who are very mysterious (or not) in what they actually do. Chase is a regular person (or is she) who is hired to keep tabs on heroes. It is hinted (and shown) that Chase has some weird powers of her own that she isn't fully aware about. This plotline goes nowhere and seems to be dropped/forgotten. Three issues of it's 10 issue run are flashback issues, two of which are basically Chase and her friends going "remember that time when....". There doesn't seem to be any planning on storyline and any cool ideas are dropped by the next issue. A lot of concepts were spun out of this series. It was quite influential for how short the run was.
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Madkal posted:I recently got a copy of Chase, a late 90's DC title ... The premise is Cameron Chase works for the Department of Extranormal Operations, a government organization who are very mysterious (or not) in what they actually do.
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Iirc, Chase got a DC One-Million issue of all things alongside Resurrection Man who was probably someone's pet character at the time.Gripweed posted:They love to take goofy bad guys and make them into hosed up killers, but it would be way more fun to do the opposite Harley Quinn does a little bit of that in her current canon series with Zsasz and Two-Face.
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Xelkelvos posted:Iirc, Chase got a DC One-Million issue of all things alongside Resurrection Man who was probably someone's pet character at the time.
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