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I understand people not liking weapon durability in BOTW. They're wrong, but there's a wrinkle of truth that by endgame there will be encounters that are simply not worth chipping your weapons on, and it takes a while to get enough slots to feel ok with dedicating a couple to utility stuff like breaking rocks. TOTK I feel is basically perfect. Half of your weapons' stats and properties are in your infinite pockets. You don't need a hammer to go spelunking, you just need a dandy stick and either a boulder lying around or a moblin horn. If you didn't pick up good weapons for a while your floor ATK is like 6+whatever the strongest mob you've killed was, so easily hitting ATK 30 weapons out of trash. This feeds into Koroks being less annoying, too. You were borderline forced to hunt the fuckers down to get your inventory to not feel tight. I think I fed 40 seeds to Hetsu this time and I've been extremely comfortable for the past 30 hours of gameplay.
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May 23, 2023 22:47
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LifeSunDeath posted:shield surfing shouldn't chew up my shield so fast, it's lame...that said minecart shield surfing rules but should also last much longer. I really wish I had a mod on hand to track durability, using carts or sleds "feels" like it should last way longer but zonai mechanisms also chew up shield durability and I don't know what's "better" for shield surfing, if anything I also don't know what the new friction values are, botw's ancient shield used to be The Sledding GOAT but I don't know if unbound zonai ones are the new ones or not
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May 23, 2023 22:53
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I really wish I had a mod on hand to track durability, using carts or sleds "feels" like it should last way longer but zonai mechanisms also chew up shield durability and I don't know what's "better" for shield surfing, if anything There’s only one way to find out  Do time trials on the sweet virgin powder slopes of the Hebra Mountains
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May 23, 2023 22:56
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Khanstant posted:Yeah man so don't do it. I stopped smashing rocks even before I got infinite bomb buddy or thunder breaker pal. This game is so good because you don't have to do the things that suck. You don't need to climb, you never need to see the link slip while climbing animation, you don't need to plink rocks with your swords. You need to remember or discover fun solutions and use those. Bomb buddy is on a timer and it sucks standing there for five seconds waiting for him to charge up so you can blast the rock again because they're almost always 2-3 bombs "deep" That's when he's immediately standing next to you of course, because normally he's not and instead his pathfinding has bugged out in the adjourning cave passage and I have to go run and get him around something. I don't know how you have 30 bombs in your inventory, I have far less, and am not interested in exploiting a glitch. Also once again wasting bomb flowers on walls instead of monsters sucks. Using zonai devices to destroy terrain obstacles or mine rocks once again sucks as much as using weapons or items to do it: ie it feels wasted when I'd rather be using those things to smash baddies. Basically my argument is that the whole mechanic of constantly having to blow up rock walls every five feet is just tedious busy work that isn't fun no matter what method you use to go about it, and the most practical method wasting weapon durability or zonai devices compounds this. Just give me a zero damage, infinite durability pick axe that can do all this poo poo and doesn't take a weapon slot. Or better yet just go the Monster Hunter route where you walk up to the rock and press A and boom you've mined it without needing to futz around with weapons.
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May 23, 2023 22:58
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Paraglider isn't picked up in any%. And weapon durability is *worse* in this game *because* of the fusing poo poo.
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May 23, 2023 22:58
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Sydin posted:Bomb buddy is on a timer and it sucks standing there for five seconds waiting for him to charge up so you can blast the rock again because they're almost always 2-3 bombs "deep" That's when he's immediately standing next to you of course, because normally he's not and instead his pathfinding has bugged out in the adjourning cave passage and I have to go run and get him around something. I don't know how you have 30 bombs in your inventory, I have far less, and am not interested in exploiting a glitch. Also once again wasting bomb flowers on walls instead of monsters sucks. Using zonai devices to destroy terrain obstacles or mine rocks once again sucks as much as using weapons or items to do it: ie it feels wasted when I'd rather be using those things to smash baddies. I mean, there's the Goron sage ability for infinite use
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May 23, 2023 23:00
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Sydin posted:Bomb buddy is on a timer and it sucks standing there for five seconds waiting for him to charge up so you can blast the rock again because they're almost always 2-3 bombs "deep" That's when he's immediately standing next to you of course, because normally he's not and instead his pathfinding has bugged out in the adjourning cave passage and I have to go run and get him around something. I don't know how you have 30 bombs in your inventory, I have far less, and am not interested in exploiting a glitch. Also once again wasting bomb flowers on walls instead of monsters sucks. Using zonai devices to destroy terrain obstacles or mine rocks once again sucks as much as using weapons or items to do it: ie it feels wasted when I'd rather be using those things to smash baddies. yes, basically every solution to mining rocks is just more annoying than mining it with a weapon. I'd rather fuse 3 rock swords in a cave than waste bomb flowers or stand around for a few minutes waiting for yunobo to clear everything MorningMoon posted:I mean, there's the Goron sage ability for infinite use that is literally what MorningMoon is talking about in the first sentence
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May 23, 2023 23:00
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I misread that, oops. IDK I like how he blows up. Deffo feels as strong as using a bomb, so it's doing more damage to the rocks faster than most weapons.
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May 23, 2023 23:02
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the paraglider design station launching you up so you can see how it looks is great touch
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May 23, 2023 23:03
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jackofarcades posted:And weapon durability is *worse* in this game *because* of the fusing poo poo. nah it's way better
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May 23, 2023 23:04
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Can you redo a shrine? I just did the shrine in Kakariko and want to go back and blueprint the catapult you make so I always have a handy way of flinging Koroks around.
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May 23, 2023 23:05
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Steve Yun posted:There’s only one way to find out some quick tests in akkala indicate that the durability usage per second is broadly unchanged, having a cart/sled just changes the friction values and lets you treat things like rocky road surfaces as grass or snow so dupe a hylian shield and stick a cart on it I guess
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May 23, 2023 23:06
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I would alternate between thunder girl and bomb buddy for clearing rocks and it would go really fast, usually I keep a boulder hammer around just for ores and rock walls, crates too when I don't feel like using gravity to open them. I never played BOTW so I was never as traumatized by weapon durability as some people seem to be, I think this system is perfect because you can easily fill up with all kinds of weapon hilts and you either stockpile massive amounts of weapon heads in your infinite pockets or you attach something fancy from a boss you can't fit in the pockets, enemies becoming damage sponges doesn't matter that much because you'll get a really good weapon head from their head and start getting inventories full of 60-80 damage weapons. Also think of every +attack item or food also as +durability because fights will end faster. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 23:10 on May 23, 2023 |
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May 23, 2023 23:07
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Sydin posted:Bomb buddy is on a timer and it sucks standing there for five seconds waiting for him to charge up so you can blast the rock again because they're almost always 2-3 bombs "deep" That's when he's immediately standing next to you of course, because normally he's not and instead his pathfinding has bugged out in the adjourning cave passage and I have to go run and get him around something. I don't know how you have 30 bombs in your inventory, I have far less, and am not interested in exploiting a glitch. Also once again wasting bomb flowers on walls instead of monsters sucks. Using zonai devices to destroy terrain obstacles or mine rocks once again sucks as much as using weapons or items to do it: ie it feels wasted when I'd rather be using those things to smash baddies. blowing walls up with cannons is fun OP, you should try it instead of jealously hoarding a resource that isn't at all scarce.
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May 23, 2023 23:09
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if you feel exceptionally strongly about weapon durability you can glitch the infinite durability master sword out of the prologue and zuggle an assortment of rock-busting fuse items onto it if you're so inclined https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZNiUJK5Edk not to interrupt a very interesting relitigation of weapon durability that's as fun now as it has been every time it's come up in the last 7 years
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May 23, 2023 23:10
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Frankston posted:Oh cool, wonder how much I have  I thought I was around half that before the hour count showed up!
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May 23, 2023 23:11
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Cannon on a spear, aim with R, let go to fire. I've been mining a ton in the Depths and I've only had to make three so far, they last a good while.
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May 23, 2023 23:15
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weapon durability is good now, sorry
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May 23, 2023 23:17
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I have no idea how people are running short on arrows, the game throws them at you in comparison to BOTW, where I frequently had around 30 and was constantly indulging Beedle's interest in entomology to buy his spares. I've been firing them willy-nilly and have like close to 500.
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May 23, 2023 23:18
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The only bad thing about durability is that I can't surf on my minecart shield forever and eventually have to make more minecart shields
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May 23, 2023 23:18
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Away all Goats posted:The only bad thing about durability is that I can't surf on my minecart shield forever and eventually have to make more minecart shields This is true.
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May 23, 2023 23:22
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Rochallor posted:I have no idea how people are running short on arrows, the game throws them at you in comparison to BOTW, where I frequently had around 30 and was constantly indulging Beedle's interest in entomology to buy his spares. I've been firing them willy-nilly and have like close to 500. I think a large part of it comes down to - Are you in BotW mode of buying arrows from everyone you run across - Are you breaking every box you see If you're doing one you're Fine, if you're doing both you're Loaded, if you're doing neither you're dropping into gleeok fights and realizing you have 4 arrows left e: Also "have you realized you can just throw things and not just fuse things to arrows" e2: Also "have you realized you can use rewind in a bunch of cases that you'd normally use arrows to fling projectiles back at things at a distance"
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May 23, 2023 23:23
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Rochallor posted:I have no idea how people are running short on arrows, the game throws them at you in comparison to BOTW, where I frequently had around 30 and was constantly indulging Beedle's interest in entomology to buy his spares. I've been firing them willy-nilly and have like close to 500. I'm always running low
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May 23, 2023 23:24
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Rochallor posted:I have no idea how people are running short on arrows, the game throws them at you in comparison to BOTW, where I frequently had around 30 and was constantly indulging Beedle's interest in entomology to buy his spares. I've been firing them willy-nilly and have like close to 500. I've also been collecting them from every enemy that drops them and looting them from chests and such.
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May 23, 2023 23:26
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I haven't bought a single arrow and I have 763.
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May 23, 2023 23:32
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I had like 100 arrows after murdering a bunch of lynels but then I went into the depths and fought a bunch of stuff and used them
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May 23, 2023 23:38
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The important mods are starting to release:
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May 23, 2023 23:42
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I was keeping pretty even on arrows, hovering between 100-150, until I went on a long monster hunting spree, but gaining back those arrows by hitting up the merchants wasn't bad aside from the cost. It helps that it seems they did away with merchants going out of stock if you had "too many" of whatever they're selling, or else they made the threshold a lot more relaxed. Used to be that in BOTW if you had something like 50 or 60 arrows then no shop would restock them after you bought them out, so if you didn't plan your numbers carefully you wouldn't be able to stock up at town/stable before going on a journey.
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May 23, 2023 23:47
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:if you feel exceptionally strongly about weapon durability you can glitch the infinite durability master sword out of the prologue and zuggle an assortment of rock-busting fuse items onto it if you're so inclined Sadly, you cannot fuse stuff onto the infinite durability Master Sword without a separate glitch so it's not as convenient.
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May 23, 2023 23:47
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Do the big destroyable boulders ever respawn? I've been trying to collect materials for battery upgrades today, I went to some mines down in the depths but it looks like only the smaller breakable rock shards have come back. I'll be sad if that's the case, the boulders seemed like they had a million times better return rate for farming zonaite.
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May 23, 2023 23:47
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you're better off holding onto your zonaite and farming crystallized charges directly you can grab them from: 1. depths minibosses (20 charges per, or 1/5th of a bar) 2. chests in the depths in yiga places or abandoned mines (also 20) 3. boss refights in the depths after you finish a temple - there's 3 per boss, and they drop an entire bar's worth, so you can get 4 batteries full from just beating them if you care about 100% armor and stuff you'll need a lot of large zonaite for that
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May 23, 2023 23:54
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Just Andi Now posted:Sadly, you cannot fuse stuff onto the infinite durability Master Sword without a separate glitch so it's not as convenient. that's what zuggle is, yes it's a hassle but you fuse it once and you're done so Captain Hygiene posted:Do the big destroyable boulders ever respawn? I've been trying to collect materials for battery upgrades today, I went to some mines down in the depths but it looks like only the smaller breakable rock shards have come back. I'll be sad if that's the case, the boulders seemed like they had a million times better return rate for farming zonaite. don't think so, no
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May 23, 2023 23:57
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jackofarcades posted:you're better off holding onto your zonaite and farming crystallized charges directly Good to know, thanks. I guess it does add up a lot faster that way, even if I'm not sure how much zonaite I'll end up using directly for armor or whatever. I haven't seen any boss refights, but I'm in a position where I could get some upgrades pretty quick that way.
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May 23, 2023 23:59
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Captain Hygiene posted:Good to know, thanks. I guess it does add up a lot faster that way, even if I'm not sure how much zonaite I'll end up using directly for armor or whatever. I haven't seen any boss refights, but I'm in a position where I could get some upgrades pretty quick that way. once you know what they look like on the map you'll probably be able to spot the rest of them.
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May 24, 2023 00:02
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I got most of my batteries from farming minibosses. Specifically beating up Flux Constructs, then fusing their cores on claymores to make hammers to kill Froxes. They're probably the most danger-free to fight once you figure out the patterns for them. Don't forget to mine the zonaite deposits guarded by the Froxes after you kill them. They seemed to drop more Large Zonaite than regular deposits, but I can't prove it jackofarcades posted:once you know what they look like on the map you'll probably be able to spot the rest of them. Yeah, the ones for Colgera especially stand out like a sore thumb
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May 24, 2023 00:25
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Sydin posted:Bomb buddy is on a timer and it sucks standing there for five seconds waiting for him to charge up so you can blast the rock again because they're almost always 2-3 bombs "deep" That's when he's immediately standing next to you of course, because normally he's not and instead his pathfinding has bugged out in the adjourning cave passage and I have to go run and get him around something. I don't know how you have 30 bombs in your inventory, I have far less, and am not interested in exploiting a glitch. Also once again wasting bomb flowers on walls instead of monsters sucks. Using zonai devices to destroy terrain obstacles or mine rocks once again sucks as much as using weapons or items to do it: ie it feels wasted when I'd rather be using those things to smash baddies. Idk how you're low on anything and I've never done any dupes, poo poo is everywhere you get so much crap all the time lol. Bombs are in every cave, and like 3 of them around every other tree in the depths. Likewise you get so much currency to dump into gumball machines you should be so flush with the crap you don't mind pulling out a bunch of crap and changing your mind and not even using it. I use bomb arrows sometimes on awkward places taluses but mostly use rocket or time bomb arrows if I want to blast a camp rather than muddle them or other arrows. A lot of this friction is self created through imagining a need to "save" resources out of fear of having a bad time later by not having that resources... Which creates a bad time now when you're actually playing. Just use your poo poo and if you find yourself in a situation later where you're out of something, then just use different poo poo. The game can only do so much to save you from yourself
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May 24, 2023 00:25
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I want to stress that I am having a ton of fun with the game and after like 50 hours feel like I have not even scratched the surface, I just wish every cave didn't make me sigh knowing I'm to spend the next ten minutes doing more rubble demolition than I am exploring or bonking monsters.
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May 24, 2023 00:32
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Zelda’s Domain if there isn’t a side quest where Link is the best man at Sidon’s wedding I will be most displeased 
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May 24, 2023 00:43
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timestamp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCztbxYdGdY&t=722s
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May 24, 2023 00:48
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Sydin posted:I want to stress that I am having a ton of fun with the game and after like 50 hours feel like I have not even scratched the surface, I just wish every cave didn't make me sigh knowing I'm to spend the next ten minutes doing more rubble demolition than I am exploring or bonking monsters. If by rubble demolition you just mean smacking the ore veins, tbh anything besides the rare veins is almost not worth bothering with and those I just smack with master sword that's what it's there for lol.
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May 24, 2023 00:49
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