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Omnicarus posted:Really cool to see a table top spinoff of the game, I think that's probably a first for a Total War game, although I guess a lot of historical TT games existed way before Rome, Medieval, etc. Apparently there was a Rome board game. I was thinking Total War Risk had to have been a thing, but I'm not pulling it up if so. Maybe Total War's popularity didn't quite line up with Hasbro's relentless IP flogging of its crappy old board games in the 2000s.
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Impermanent posted:people are in love with our bigass sprawling warhammer fantasy world due to the unprecedented success of a videogame tie in. let's do a new game set in that world without any of the unique or interesting things. Total War Historical games have their own fan base, and a(very vocal) subset dislike the Warhammer games. I’d appreciate if they kept making historical titles but leaned more into city/kingdom building mechanics from games like Crusader Kings to make up for the lack of zombie dragons and machine-gun toting rats. The need to do stuff to keep the historical titles fresh, and largely haven’t done so.
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May 23, 2023 19:49
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I had completely forgotten about the Rome board game lol just checked and it hasn't been delivered to backers yet, that explains why I haven't heard a thing about it
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May 23, 2023 19:56
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Total War Historical games have their own fan base, and a(very vocal) subset dislike the Warhammer games. yeah the heir system of 3k would work in a medieval setting. add more events and minor crisis events. the province system was also more nuanced
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Total War Historical games have their own fan base, and a(very vocal) subset dislike the Warhammer games. I watched a historical guy on twitch play high elves. He picked Tyrion, and kept him behind his armies as 'commanders should not fight.' He lost a lot of battles. It was loving amazing.
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May 23, 2023 20:14
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It's especially funny because even in most of the historical TWW games which don't feature one man army superhero characters, generals' bodyguards are tremendously powerful units that you should be utilizing constantly.
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May 23, 2023 20:16
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I have a feeling GW is going to barely support the Old World and quickly wash their hands of it like "welp we tried". Idk, remind me in two years
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May 23, 2023 20:51
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Third World Reagan posted:I watched a historical guy on twitch play high elves. He picked Tyrion, and kept him behind his armies as 'commanders should not fight.' He lost a lot of battles. It was loving amazing. the records of early islamic conquests are chock full of recountings of commanders deciding close battles by leading cavalry reserves into decisive actions, see also alexander, caesar etc. now there most likely is a healthy helping of propaganda/PR making up part of these stories but still 
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Total War Historical games have their own fan base, and a(very vocal) subset dislike the Warhammer games. Oh I was referring to the old world
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May 23, 2023 20:57
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I'm not interested in tabletop Warhammer but I might pick up some dwarf or wood elf figures just to use as desktop ornaments. I'm assuming they're going to be hellishly expensive and I don't really want to paint them either, though, so lol.
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May 23, 2023 21:09
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Randallteal posted:I'm not interested in tabletop Warhammer but I might pick up some dwarf or wood elf figures just to use as desktop ornaments. I'm assuming they're going to be hellishly expensive and I don't really want to paint them either, though, so lol. So just buy some already painted ones a hobbyist did.
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May 23, 2023 21:11
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May 23, 2023 21:18
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Kanos posted:They had a chance to do something like this with Troy and went with the most baffling half-measure possible that annoyed both historical purists and people who wanted Greek Mythology Total War. They did eventually make a total war mythology expansion for Troy called Mythos, I've never played it but I've heard it's decent if you're into that stuff.
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May 23, 2023 21:31
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bob dobbs is dead posted:75 bucks guaranteed lol kinda depends on level of quality but it shouldn't be that bad unless it's like a lord on a fancy mount
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Cythereal posted:Two races of short-sighted suicidal morons who rely on melee screens to hold the line (through sheer durability or numbers) while the heavy weapons do the damage, and a reliance on guns and artillery. Ikit doesn't need any infantry in his armies at all, you use menace from below and plague priests casting vermintide to catch anything that manages to get close. Clan Eshin has no line to hold everyone just scurries away when enemies get close. Throt uses genetically enhanced monsters.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Ikit doesn't need any infantry in his armies at all, you use menace from below and plague priests casting vermintide to catch anything that manages to get close. Clan Eshin has no line to hold everyone just scurries away when enemies get close. Throt uses genetically enhanced monsters. I don't have any of those DLCs.
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All I know is that the next historical TW is set in the waning days of New Kingdom Egypt and that is a loving dope setting. Bronze Age Collapse, hell yeah. There's gonna be a 25 dollar Sea Peoples DLC, isn't there?  Meanwhile, WARHAMS THE THIRD. I'm wondering what LH they're gonna drop on us with the skulls event promo.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Ikit doesn't need any infantry in his armies at all, you use menace from below and plague priests casting vermintide to catch anything that manages to get close. Clan Eshin has no line to hold everyone just scurries away when enemies get close. Throt uses genetically enhanced monsters. on the subject of Throt that might be my next campaign. he's surrounded by assholes now but that's just more juice for genetic experimentation I also just love Mutant Rat Ogres. the belly flop animation is adorable Cythereal posted:I don't have any of those DLCs. Skaven without any of their DLC is pretty anemic. like half their roster is missing and all the lords are crazy awesome
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Communist Thoughts posted:They did eventually make a total war mythology expansion for Troy called Mythos, I've never played it but I've heard it's decent if you're into that stuff. I'm playing Troy now and picked up Mythos thinking it might be some fun but then I loaded into a Hippolyta campaign to find that my badass, carry-the-early-game horsewomen got replaced by some lovely centaurs. I'm not playing the Amazons to have some nasty horsedudes in my army. 
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:Skaven without any of their DLC is pretty anemic. like half their roster is missing and all the lords are crazy awesome I'm okay with this. I'm playing a skaven game for completion's sake, nothing more. Although if the series is going on sale in a couple of days I may well just bite the bullet and pick up all the DLC.
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May 23, 2023 21:45
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Cythereal posted:I'm okay with this. I'm playing a skaven game for completion's sake, nothing more. I love all the factions and rotate through them or random picker each time. there's something they all do differently or have to approach situations differently what do you have left to try?
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quote:Empire of Man Is GW not launching Old World with Cathay and Kislev, the factions that have been almost universally applauded as OW breathing new life back into the franchise and introduced/expanded specifically for it?  Are they hidden under "Empires of Man"?
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Kanos posted:It's especially funny because even in most of the historical TWW games which don't feature one man army superhero characters, generals' bodyguards are tremendously powerful units that you should be utilizing constantly.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:what do you have left to try? Skaven (in progress) Dark Elves Greenskins Empire I do not own Wood Elves or Beastmen.
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Cythereal posted:Skaven (in progress) hell yeah you've got some fun ones left to do. I'd say those last two are high priority DLC's to get. you get a bunch of lords at once that way too
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Third World Reagan posted:I watched a historical guy on twitch play high elves. He picked Tyrion, and kept him behind his armies as 'commanders should not fight.' He lost a lot of battles. It was loving amazing. Since I love his blog, this series goes into it! https://acoup.blog/2022/06/03/collections-total-generalship-commanding-pre-modern-armies-part-ii-commands/ Basically, morale is very(very) important and if you don't have a way to influence the battle after it starts anyway you as the general will probably be in the fight since it can be the thing keeping your side from routing!
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:you must not have played in a while as beastmen got updated at the tail end of WH2 but yeah the herdstone mechanic is huge for them to feel viable and not one loss away from campaign ending So just to be clear, if I lose an army I don't lose all the buildings that were in it? Cuz that was what made me start woc like 4 times and quit.
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Noir89 posted:Since I love his blog, this series goes into it! sadly he mentions that commanders stopped doing this once gunpowerder was invented Long live Karl Franz and his guns
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Cpt_Obvious posted:So just to be clear, if I lose an army I don't lose all the buildings that were in it? Cuz that was what made me start woc like 4 times and quit. in wh3 after the Champions of Chaos update Warriors of Chaos now have capitals that are regular settlements for them with a unique chain of buildings. these are now your main recruitment centers and money makers your armies no longer have buildings attached to them and you can lose them as often as you want this was obviously a huge improvement for them and everyone is happier. I'm not sure I've seen people complain or wish for the old horde style to come back since it happened these new capitals are called Black Fortresses and some of them have the auto bonus of forcibly vassaling Norsca factions  these vassals are how you solve the whack a mole of factions colonizing ruins in your backyard
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That sounds awesome! Have there been any updates to norsca?
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:hell yeah you've got some fun ones left to do. I'd say those last two are high priority DLC's to get. you get a bunch of lords at once that way too If the series does go on sale this week, I'm strongly considering getting the whole kit and kaboodle. I just don't like skaven. I don't like their lore, I don't like their aesthetic, and they are way too funny to launch into orbit with a good rear cavalry charge.
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:in wh3 after the Champions of Chaos update Warriors of Chaos now have capitals that are regular settlements for them with a unique chain of buildings. these are now your main recruitment centers and money makers Minor settlements that have trade good buildings should be under your direct control, since the resource buildings provide buffs to your factions (ie iron gives your infantry more armor). Just an extra tip.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Have there been any updates to norsca?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:That sounds awesome! yeah they work like a regular faction now and can capture settlements. so it makes the faction easier to play they still need a rework. I feel like they should get marks for their units like the scrap system. so you get a bit more flavor but aren't straight giving them WoC stuff. I also wouldn't be mad with more trolls or monsters in general just think of it a Mammoth with a Mark of Slaanesh that acts like a giant chariot
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Nurgle ice trolls.
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I've bounced off Norsca within 20 turns every time I've tried to play them, because you're spending that time fighting other Norscans, and your entire shared roster is "here's a bunch of melee chaff you can't upgrade like WoC with the exact same troops, and then some ranged cav" which makes every fight feel grindy and bland. It would be nice if they felt complete in more ways than "well, you at least play the same game as other factions, on the world map," if their part of the IE map wasn't a dozen palette swaps of your own guys, and if your options were more varied than playing against the better version of your roster (by staying in the northern wastes and fighting WoC all day once you get through the viking wall around you) or going south and getting tarpitted into an eternity of Empire. But I guess that's what you get for a joke npc faction.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Does this game go on sale very often? I've played the first two extensively and desperately want to play an ogre campaign. The skull sale is coming Thursday!
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:I've bounced off Norsca within 20 turns every time I've tried to play them, because you're spending that time fighting other Norscans, and your entire shared roster is "here's a bunch of melee chaff you can't upgrade like WoC with the exact same troops, and then some ranged cav" which makes every fight feel grindy and bland. It would be nice if they felt complete in more ways than "well, you at least play the same game as other factions, on the world map," if their part of the IE map wasn't a dozen palette swaps of your own guys, and if your options were more varied than playing against the better version of your roster (by staying in the northern wastes and fighting WoC all day once you get through the viking wall around you) or going south and getting tarpitted into an eternity of Empire. But I guess that's what you get for a joke npc faction.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Take the new Sea Lane down the River Ruin to the Dragon Isles, get rich. Forsake Norsca itself. yeah vampire coast, dark elves and norsca benefit a ton from sea lanes. gently caress all of Norsca and go raiding
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I'm no fancy big city trailer maker, but maybe a piece of poo poo shouldn't be the main focus point of a trailer for your new product? This is a thing CA does with the historical titles. They do a lot of research and include a lot of super-nuanced details that 99% of people will miss. That whole beetle thing was ultra culturally significant to ancient Egyptians because they thought beetles to be the reincarnated form of the sun god and they represented the cycle of life and death. The scene with the beetle and the Pharoh was a nod to giga-nerds. They did similar things in their 3 Kingdoms trailers, like including obscure poem lyrics that basically only Chinese people would recognize.
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