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DynamicSloth posted:..... He claims to have voted for Obama, Clinton, and Biden all of these are lies because musk is a stupid southpark fuckboy that gets blackout high on election day (aka just another tuesday ). also for everything post 2016, isnt he regged in TX and their BoE records have it public info if a person "checked in" or not? and he never showed up.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Cry for the coin that never was For imagining, platinum trillion. Never minted.
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the_steve posted:That, and hasn't she herself said (during her lucid moments) that they'd pretty much have to pry the job out of her cold dead hands? What I was trying to say, but more delicately, is that her hands have a good chance of being cold & dead after a few more Senate vacations, when she no longer has to be wheeled through the hidden chambers or give the appearance of being at least somewhat sentient.
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PhazonLink posted:all of these are lies because musk is a stupid southpark fuckboy that gets blackout high on election day (aka just another tuesday ). also for everything post 2016, isnt he regged in TX and their BoE records have it public info if a person "checked in" or not? and he never showed up. I'm having trouble understanding this post; could you clarify your point(s)? eta: Someone else translating it for me would be fine, too. etaa: ok, I think I've got it: Musk is a liar who lies about voting. Still don't get the southpark fuckboi stuff or how it's relevant to the convo. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 18:29 on May 24, 2023 |
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Willa Rogers posted:What I was trying to say, but more delicately, is that her hands have a good chance of being cold & dead after a few more Senate vacations, when she no longer has to be wheeled through the hidden chambers or give the appearance of being at least somewhat sentient. I mean, I believe you're discounting the possibility of some sort of corpse ventriloquism.
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PhazonLink posted:all of these are lies because musk is a stupid southpark fuckboy that gets blackout high on election day (aka just another tuesday ). also for everything post 2016, isnt he regged in TX and their BoE records have it public info if a person "checked in" or not? and he never showed up. Daily Beast has it that he voted in 2020 but not in the 2022 general election, which is when he famously claimed he was going to start voting for Republicans. Is that what you're remembering?
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s 100% abuse. She clearly hasn’t been competent to do this job for some time and everyone around her knows this. She’s not able to make those kinds of decisions.
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cat botherer posted:IDK about abuse. It's really good for dementia patients to keep them as active as possible.
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FlamingLiberal posted:She clearly doesn’t know what’s going on and she’s stuck in a job In other news, some congressional Dems are angry at the Biden administration's debt messaging: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/24/democrats-angry-debt-limit-messaging/ quote:Some Democrats, especially those who face tough reelections next year, have privately groused that the White House has bungled the messaging, is putting Democrats in a terrible negotiating position and could be forced to eat most of McCarthy's demands.
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm having trouble understanding this post; could you clarify your point(s)? "South Park Independent" is a common term the kind of too-smart-for the-room GenX dudes who insist both sides totally suck because the right wants awful things sude but the left is boring and annoying even when they're right, so really it's smart to not take sides in politics . After all, it's fundamentally just sports teams, right? But in the end they'll always go with the right because "you might have to change your attitudes and behavior for the sake of others" is a bridge too far.
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May 24, 2023 19:00
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"No they LIKE to be abused" has been tired since before the beginning of the previous century
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Killer robot posted:"South Park Independent" is a common term the kind of too-smart-for the-room GenX dudes who insist both sides totally suck because the right wants awful things sude but the left is boring and annoying even when they're right, so really it's smart to not take sides in politics . After all, it's fundamentally just sports teams, right? But in the end they'll always go with the right because "you might have to change your attitudes and behavior for the sake of others" is a bridge too far. they're republicans who like their money but don't want to feel bad about hurting other people.
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cat botherer posted:IDK about abuse. It's really good for dementia patients to keep them as active as possible. Someone should just tell her that remote voting is a thing and give her little buttons to push from home instead of letting rapidly declining geriatrics make our national government even more intransigent and dysfunctional.
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Ok, understood, but what does being a fuckboi have to do with the way Musk votes?
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I think a big part of why the situation with Sen. Feinstein is intractable is not only that it's common practice to keep people "serving" for well passed their ability to functionally do so, but also that setting a ground rule that all in office need to be aware and cognizant of reality kind of rules out a lot of current senators at a baseline. One of the key factors about dementia is that people lose their ability to orient towards people, locations, and times, and ... I mean. It's not uncommon to come away from someone like MGT, Louie Gomert, or Ted Cruz and think "holy poo poo, this person has no tether to reality at all." Kinda the same thing with why we can't really ban nazi rhetoric without banning a large part of republican talking points. And then there's also the issue that arises from restrictions like this where people with accreditation power can make it impossible for certain people (or certain types of people) from ever meeting whatever standards end up getting set. I mean, I'm sure it's possible to have a competency test that doesn't end up being used to keep the 'wrong' people out of power, but historically speaking we're not very good at that. Willa Rogers posted:Ok, understood, but what does being a fuckboi have to do with the way Musk votes? Ershalim fucked around with this message at 19:09 on May 24, 2023 |
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Tim Scott gave a long sit-down interview with NBC. Most of it was fluff, but some interesting statements. Invading/bombing Mexico seems to be a mainstream Republican belief now. quote:TOM LLAMAS: In your speech you-- you mentioned what sounded like using the U.S. military to take out cartels. Did I understand that correctly? Scott doesn't know why he is running for President or what he offers that is different from Trump. quote:TOM LLAMAS: So explain that a little more to me, ‘cause it sounds like you’re trying to draw a contrast there. What will you offer voters that former President Trump will not? Still fumbling on abortion and hasn't figured out a better response after his initial bumble on this last month. He somehow rambles on and gives an even worse answer than he originally did and answers the reporter's question about a woman asking him for control over her body by saying they are "stuck on abortion." quote:TOM LLAMAS: --I wanna start there. There’s been some back and forth. I wanna know what-- and you’ve spoken so much in the campaign trail about abortion, and yet today in your announcement the-- there were only a few words it sounded like. Where do you stand on abortion? quote:TOM LLAMAS: Governor DeSantis signed into law a six week ban for abortion. Do you think that’s a good idea? quote:TOM LLAMAS: Where-- where is Governor Tim Scott? There’s been 12 weeks in some states, six weeks in other states. Where do you stand? quote:TOM LLAMAS: Former President Trump has said the six week, or at least he’s signaled that six week ban, it may be too harsh. What do you say to that? Is it too harsh? Is six weeks too much? quote:TOM LLAMAS: If you had a chance, now according to your plan if it went through Congress, would you be in favor of a federal ban on abortion? quote:TOM LLAMAS: What would you say to a female voter who says, “I like Senator Tim Scott. I wanna turn the page from Trump, but I don’t want him messing with my body”? My favorite bit is one of the fluff questions where he says that he only started believing in God once he missed 6 weeks of football season in high school. That was proof that God existed and was directing him to something bigger. quote:TOM LLAMAS: Can you share with-- can you share with me the moment where you gave your life to Christ? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/read-transcript-nbc-news-exclusive-interview-tim-scott-rcna85675
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Ershalim posted:I think a big part of why the situation with Sen. Feinstein is intractable is not only that it's common practice to keep people "serving" for well passed their ability to functionally do so, but also that setting a ground rule that all in office need to be aware and cognizant of reality kind of rules out a lot of current senators at a baseline. One of the key factors about dementia is that people lose their ability to orient towards people, locations, and times, and ... I mean. It's not uncommon to come away from someone like MGT, Louie Gomert, or Ted Cruz and think "holy poo poo, this person has no tether to reality at all." Bluntly, there needs to be an age limit, and it's loving absurd that ageism can only go one way and there are minimum age limits for service. Wonder if that has something to do with who makes the laws!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Tim Scott gave a long sit-down interview with NBC. What a bumbling clown, buffoon. Hardly deep analysis I know but I can’t read that mess and think anything else.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Tim Scott gave a long sit-down interview with NBC. first we bring back the spanish flu, then we bring back the pancho villa expeditions. a trench based war in europe on a scale not seen for generations is being fought by a decaying colonial power worried about the implications of a large bloc alliance opposed to its expansionist interests. if we're going to just repeat a previous century, the 20th seems like a very poor choice
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The GOP looked at the Russian invasion of Ukraine and said, ‘can we have some of that?’
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:first we bring back the spanish flu, then we bring back the pancho villa expeditions. a trench based war in europe on a scale not seen for generations is being fought by a decaying colonial power worried about the implications of a large bloc alliance opposed to its expansionist interests. if we're going to just repeat a previous century, the 20th seems like a very poor choice Maybe the discovery of Relativity2: 2Real will do something useful enough to make up for the first half of the bad century with all the genocides and whatnot. Professor Beetus posted:Bluntly, there needs to be an age limit, and it's loving absurd that ageism can only go one way and there are minimum age limits for service. Wonder if that has something to do with who makes the laws! I'm kinda down with that idea, but I think because DC is so cliquey and so much is done through networking and established deep ties through lobbyists and special interest megadonors you run the risk of a lot of people just simply not being able to compete if they don't get in really early. If we cut all that poo poo out then yeah, sure. I think term limits will make the problem of power and wealth concentration in politics a little better if we establish it and wait like 3 generations, but that sucks. Personally I don't think the problem gets solved without the underlying capital structure being curbed or expunged. But I'm a wild unreasonable extremist, so. 
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US versus Mexico could be the next forever war? Didn't see that coming. How would the cartels handle something like that. Don't they also have their own military forces also?
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Chaos like that would probably be great for the cartels, and I'm sure the CIA could get a good taste too.
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Ershalim posted:I'm kinda down with that idea, but I think because DC is so cliquey and so much is done through networking and established deep ties through lobbyists and special interest megadonors you run the risk of a lot of people just simply not being able to compete if they don't get in really early. If we cut all that poo poo out then yeah, sure. I think term limits will make the problem of power and wealth concentration in politics a little better if we establish it and wait like 3 generations, but that sucks. Personally I don't think the problem gets solved without the underlying capital structure being curbed or expunged. But I'm a wild unreasonable extremist, so. Oh yeah, it would absolutely need to be in conjunction with a huge number of other election reforms in order to truly rectify the problem. But it is a significant problem in both mental incompetence, and the fact that the incompetence leads to people who have never been elected in charge of the senator's actual business and decisions. Or you know, sponsoring whatever bills the donors are putting in front of them.
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Bombing/invading Mexico is an absolutely insane idea. It most likely wouldn't dramatically impact the cartels unless you keep it up nonstop forever - which nobody is going to do. It would probably just ensure that the cartels operate out of border towns they basically control already so that the U.S. couldn't bomb them. Mexico would flip out and cancel voluntary participation in the border/customs management at minimum. I'm pretty sure that the idea of invading/bombing Mexico becoming a mainstream Republican belief is because Trump was trying to one up everyone on immigration 9 years ago and said he would invade Mexico. So everyone else slowly latched on to the idea and it somehow became a thing. It is literally a policy that came into existence because Trump was trying to win a "I would be a million, no, billion, no, infinity times better!" contest.
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Much like Tim Scott, I'm not really sure what Tim Scott is trying to offer or really even running on. It just seems like a mishmash of vague policies and a refusal to confirm any of them. And then, when pressed to be more specific, he just says, "I'm so good at persuading" and closes the series of questions by telling the interviewer "they are stuck on abortion" and not going to try and convince him. Just a wild decision. DeSantis has a short time window and the rest of the other Republican candidates are no-hopers or people who haven't had a career in office for decades, so they at least have a reason to jump on the pyre. Scott had a career in Senate leadership and could have hung around for a while. It makes no sense why he decided to run and even he doesn't seem to know.
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i guess there's something to be said for the existential dread that must manifest when a career politician realizes they probably can't be nominated even in the weakest field in their lifetime. jumping into the contest with no actual plan or hope to quiet the voice in their head telling them that they'll never be able to hook that shiny brass ring
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Much like Tim Scott, I'm not really sure what Tim Scott is trying to offer or really even running on. Soft transition to overpaid talking head
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Tim Scott apparently has Larry Ellison as his sugar daddy primary funder so I’m sure those fat checks are what made him run
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Let’s hope Desantis gets upstaged by Tina Turner dying right in the middle of his announcement. Not that she was in the room but, you know.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Much like Tim Scott, I'm not really sure what Tim Scott is trying to offer or really even running on. I am quieter Trump and that means I am sane, please vote for me?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Let’s hope Desantis gets upstaged by Tina Turner dying right in the middle of his announcement. Not that she was in the room but, you know. Wait, what? Edit: gently caress
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Gort posted:Wait, what? No info on cause of death, but she was in her 80's and had cancer, a stroke, and kidney problems all in the last few years. Age + all those complications probably what did it. https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1661450722729250817
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Microsoft found out that China had uploaded malware through a U.S. Air Force base network in Guam that has been spread across many different private and public networks, including home routers. The malware is a backdoor program that allows remote access to the servers and networks the infected devices are connected to. They don't believe it has been used for any offensive attacks, but has been copying information. They discovered it when someone was apparently attempting to make changes to the network at a U.S. port computer system. The malware was installed with great stealth, sometimes flowing through routers and other common internet-connected consumer devices, to make the intrusion harder to track over a long period of time. Microsoft and the NSA will be publishing a joint document on how to check networks and block the malware today. The U.S. has adopted a new policy of making any network security flaws public as soon as possible to attempt to burn the hacking networks instead of monitoring them because hackers were generally able to stay ahead and monitoring provided minimal useful information. There is also a process being implemented to update cybersecurity protocols at major U.S. infrastructure across the country. This process began a year ago, but they are attempting to speed it up and expand now. They are expected to require private power plants and other private facilities that are deemed "critical infrastructure" to adopt the standards and upgrades on a faster timetable, but exactly when is unclear. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1661454921835728911 quote:Around the time that the Federal Bureau of Investigation was examining the equipment recovered from the wreckage of the Chinese spy balloon shot down off the South Carolina coast in February, American intelligence agencies and Microsoft detected what they feared was a more worrisome intruder: mysterious computer code that has been popping up in telecommunications systems in Guam and elsewhere in the United States. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:46 on May 24, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Much like Tim Scott, I'm not really sure what Tim Scott is trying to offer or really even running on. Trump needs a new VP and Kari Lake is a loser. He'll pick the sell out from South Carolina so he can go "see I'm not a racist".
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Microsoft found out that China had uploaded malware through a U.S. Air Force base network in Guam that has been spread across many different private and public networks, including home routers. “Execute floss dance 66”, I intone ominously onto Tiktok, triggering the end of global telecommunications.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Much like Tim Scott, I'm not really sure what Tim Scott is trying to offer or really even running on. The interview was "stuck on abortion" because the candidate wouldn't answer the simple of question of "would you sign a bill that says ______________ if it were to cross your desk?" It's a hypothetical, but relatively simple question and Scott just kept saying "culture of life" and "persuading the American people".
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s 100% abuse. She clearly hasn’t been competent to do this job for some time and everyone around her knows this. She’s not able to make those kinds of decisions. There's no provision for someone else to make the decision for her. Whether she's competent to make the decision or not, it's effectively impossible to forcibly remove her before 2024 if she insists on saying. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Bombing/invading Mexico is an absolutely insane idea. It most likely wouldn't dramatically impact the cartels unless you keep it up nonstop forever - which nobody is going to do. It would probably just ensure that the cartels operate out of border towns they basically control already so that the U.S. couldn't bomb them. The US has been normalizing the idea of using military force among drug traffickers for ages. For a long time, we've pushed countries in Central and South America to take more aggressive measures, culminating in things like the Colombian aerial herbicide spraying campaign. And in Afghanistan, the military was deeply involved in anti-opium operations. During the Trump campaign, the US military even resorted to carrying out an aerial bombing campaign against suspected drug operations. Combine that with increasingly scary (and nonsensical) rhetoric about drugs and cartels from right-wing leaders using them as a boogeyman to justify border crackdowns, and it's not hard to see how we end up at "invading Mexico". I'm sure they don't expect it to be a serious war, of course. Another thing that's long been normalized in the US is the idea that we can just go freely bomb whatever we want with no repercussions because no country would ever dare to challenge the unstoppable US military.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Microsoft found out that China had uploaded malware through a U.S. Air Force base network in Guam that has been spread across many different private and public networks, including home routers. This is the type of stuff that worries more than anything as the nature of what constitutes warfare moves into the digital age. I'm 100% convinced that "WW3" or "the next 9/11" is going to be an attack on our digital infrastructure. Banks, utilities, energy and things like that. Seems like it's only a matter of time before something very serious breaks through and really cripples a giant part of our modern society and it seems to me that it'll basically come down to millions of people not being able to withdrawal money, fill up their tank or turn on their your lights rather than anything like a huge bomb. There's not one facet of our lives that's not dependent on the internet and all someone would need is a serious virus aimed at out largest banks or power companies to quickly send us into Lord of the FLies territory
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