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I don’t know why we’re pretending Hank always had this in him. He was comic relief before. This reimagining of his character is the show reimagining itself. No more comic relief.
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eli4672 posted:I don’t know why we’re pretending Hank always had this in him. He was comic relief before. This reimagining of his character is the show reimagining itself. No more comic relief. Watch I think it's either S2E1 S2E2 where he very coldly and credibly and without any japes or effete mincing directly tells Barry that he insulted and disrespected him, and he will kill him and everyone in his acting class if he didn't do a job for him. Hell, watch this season where it's played for laughs but he condemns a dozen or so underlings to a really awful death drowning in sand. Hell, watch this season where he either by direct instruction or omission of calling his men off has the love of his life, Cristobol, killed when he becomes a liability. He can't face it, but he did it. As someone upthread said, he affects a very a friendly, goofy Chechen mob boss-- but at the end of the day he's a Chechen Mob boss, with all that implies.
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May 24, 2023 18:40
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My only quibble would be that he wasn't in charge when Cristobal was killed. That was his higher ups. Hank still bears some responsibility because he could have more proactively communicated to Cristobal what situation they were in. Not the same as it being his choice though.
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May 24, 2023 18:51
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Owlbear Camus posted:Watch I think it's either S2E1 S2E2 where he very coldly and credibly and without any japes or effete mincing directly tells Barry that he insulted and disrespected him, and he will kill him and everyone in his acting class if he didn't do a job for him. S2E1 at the end. I loved that scene because before that he was shown as mainly comic relief and the audience, like Barry, were supposed to see him as a joke. "Don't gently caress with me Barry, its not polite." Adding on the polite thing at the end makes it Hank. Of course fourse right afterwards you hear Hank's bubble gum pop music as he drives away because at the end of the day, its still Hank.
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May 24, 2023 18:56
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Alan Smithee posted:i have no doubt in my mind Barry will get away with everything cut to some time later, our new protagonist, John, is ready to take his first acting class
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May 24, 2023 19:01
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Wittgen posted:My only quibble would be that he wasn't in charge when Cristobal was killed. That was his higher ups. Hank still bears some responsibility because he could have more proactively communicated to Cristobal what situation they were in. Not the same as it being his choice though. Yeah I suppose that was right when Chechen Mob Management showed up to lay down the terms and conditions of his regional management role. I still give him half the blame for omission of action, however tore up he was about it. He could have done SOMETHING. My read was in part even though it wasn't explicitly said under the hurt he was letting Cristobol get "if I can't have you no one else ever will" -ed in the rage and pain of the moment. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 19:05 on May 24, 2023 |
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May 24, 2023 19:03
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He was letting Cristobal be free, it's what he wanted
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moist turtleneck posted:He was letting Cristobal be free, it's what he wanted the underlings should have cleaned up quicker and told Hank they took him to a sand farm up in Washington state to play and chase rabbits
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DaveKap posted:The show specifically stops playing trumpets during the title splash when they have decided this is more of a drama than a comedy. Man I miss that Soul sting  Would also have been acceptable if they had done like the Invincible cartoon and just slammed to the title the first time anyone says 'Barry' each episode:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwUM_cjpj0 Hader chatting about old movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNcXnZ_l30
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The Invincible comic rules by the way, highly recommend.Sivart13 posted:the only sensible way for this all to end is Barry being gunned down in his family barn some time in the future by his many antagonists Red Barry Redemption
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Alan Smithee posted:i have no doubt in my mind Barry will get away with everything "I'd like to see ol' Barry wriggle his way out of this jam!" * Barry wriggles his way out of the jam easily * "Ah! Well. Nevertheless,"
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Von Pluring posted:Chekhov's Coke. He is great in S1 of the HBO Perry Mason show as a fire and brimstone prosecutor, he does some fantastic scenery chewing.
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Hughmoris posted:I am going to be so drat sad when this and Succession end next week. It was Barry’s payment for blowing up the Bolivians with the user friendly bomb.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Gentlemen can disagree but I think it's perfectly in keeping with the themes of the show. 
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May 25, 2023 15:08
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Kinda hilarious that the two hbo shows about Hollywood actors are Barry and Entourage.
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ruddiger posted:Kinda hilarious that the two hbo shows about Hollywood actors are Barry and Entourage. Larry Sanders and Curb Your Enthusiasm spring to mind.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Gentlemen can disagree but I think it's perfectly in keeping with the themes of the show. I view it in a less pessimistic light: I don't think it's that "you can't change", but rather you can't erase or paper over your sins by deciding to "do good" or trade a good deed for a bad. It stays with you and comes home to roost. Would love to hear Bill Hader talk about what he thinks of Catholicism, lol. It's definitely about the cycle of violence and abuse, and how that perpetuates onward. It's a poison that seeps into people and spreads. I dunno if it was intentional but I think it's definitely thematically significant that this all begins with a US soldier murdering a family in the middle east. But not everyone is doomed or trapped. Gene's son seems remarkably well adjusted and forgiving considering what he's dealt with. Albert Nguyen seems alright considering what he went through and what he saw in Barry. It's definitely a fairly bleak story but I don't think it's completely cynical. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 16:37 on May 25, 2023 |
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The characters in Barry aren't hosed up trashfires who never get better because the show thinks it's impossible to improve as a person. They're that way because they refuse to put in the work. They just want to decide they're different ("starting now") and expect reality to accommodate.
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May 25, 2023 16:41
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ruddiger posted:Kinda hilarious that the two hbo shows about Hollywood actors are Barry and Entourage. What about the other two
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May 25, 2023 16:48
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Alan Smithee posted:What about the other two I think those are New York actors.
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Alan Smithee posted:What about the other two I was gonna say, The Other Two is really loving funny. I missed that it came back a few weeks ago and just binged through the S3 episodes that are out.
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May 25, 2023 16:58
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I have been down on the time skip, and it feels like they have lost the plot a bit. But the stuff with Hank in this last episode felt like classic Barry, so I hope they can wrap it all up in a satisfying way on Sunday.
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It’s gonna be a good finale because the time skip won’t matter at all besides whatever winds up happening with their son. I’m really curious what’s gonna happen with Sally. I don’t think they’ll kill her, but we’ll see.
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May 25, 2023 18:31
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If Barry lives through it all I think he should end up doing Dare ‘don’t do drugs/violence’ videos for middle schoolers from prison, completing his arc as a real ‘actor’
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May 25, 2023 19:08
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The last shot HAS to be an excerpt of the bio film, right?
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God I hope we get to see it. "low rent in universe dramatization of the events of the show" is a gag I loved in Game of Thrones and the Thor movies.
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May 25, 2023 19:37
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Gonna go for the long bomb theory that the show is a time loop and the guy who barry kills in the first episode is his son from the future who travelled back in time to make sure barry is on the path that leads to his birth.
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Narcissus1916 posted:The last shot HAS to be an excerpt of the bio film, right? It'll be a real crime if we don't get a follow-up Barry movie with DDL and Marky Mark
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barry will wound his other palm and his feet. then something sharp will pierce his side. & who ever could pull it out would be crowned king arthur
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As it turns out, Barry's only weakness and the way to defeat him is simple water.
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panko posted:barry will wound his other palm and his feet. then something sharp will berry into his side  WAIT Barry into his side  cant cook creole bream posted:As it turns out, Barry's only weakness and the way to defeat him is simple water. Beach scenes = death confirmed.
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I think my favourite Hank moments are when he almost pukes because he was faking being stoic in front of Barry pointing a gun in his face, and the quick run around at the big table in The Dave and Busters.
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When he's dancing in merriment with his henchman because Barry agreed to work for him
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Everybody dies They all go to the beach Beach party musical finisher
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When he shows up at Barry's work in that awful wig. I kind of hope he wears the Emily wig at some point now.
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Narcissus1916 posted:The last shot HAS to be an excerpt of the bio film, right? Dear lord if they get Daniel Day-Lewis and Wahlberg for quick cameos I will forgive the time skip.
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ruddiger posted:Kinda hilarious that the two hbo shows about Hollywood actors are Barry and Entourage. Even if it's mostly sports, I feel like Arli$$ was kinda Hollywood/fame-adjacent at points.
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