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Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
When a data engineer job lists "fin-tech" experience as a nice-to-have, what do y'all reckon that means? I have a shitload of experience so I'm sure I've done something adjacent to most of the things going on in fintech, but I'd love some context from anyone who has actually worked in fintech.

here are some guesses that come to my mind:
* fintech transaction data is big: ive worked in ad-tech so i've done big transaciton logs
* regulatory compliance: i worked in adtech before/during/after gdpr and built the stuff to make us comply
* systems integration: i've integrated with (and made) a shitload of apis
* financial product knowledge: this is probably my worst area but i have learned stuff about markets and mechanisms quickly in the past so i could probably cram for this

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


All of the above and you have to guess which things they care about the most. They might also really want candidates who've been in a fintech company (which is perfectly logical because ???).

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Corla Plankun posted:

When a data engineer job lists "fin-tech" experience as a nice-to-have, what do y'all reckon that means? I have a shitload of experience so I'm sure I've done something adjacent to most of the things going on in fintech, but I'd love some context from anyone who has actually worked in fintech.

here are some guesses that come to my mind:
* fintech transaction data is big: ive worked in ad-tech so i've done big transaciton logs
* regulatory compliance: i worked in adtech before/during/after gdpr and built the stuff to make us comply
* systems integration: i've integrated with (and made) a shitload of apis
* financial product knowledge: this is probably my worst area but i have learned stuff about markets and mechanisms quickly in the past so i could probably cram for this

based on my experience on tech teams in finance company back offices i'd guess it's almost entirely 4

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Corla Plankun posted:

When a data engineer job lists "fin-tech" experience as a nice-to-have, what do y'all reckon that means?

they want domain knowledge, and are also hoping you will bring some insider knowledge of someone elses technologies, ie "well this is how we did it at blackrock"

Its a Rolex
Jan 23, 2023

Hey, posting is posting. You emptyquote, I turn my monitor on; what's the difference?
i just got off a call with an academic who i thought was looking for a founding engineer.

instead, i got a PI who was talking down to me for an hour for being more interested in building the software their mega-lab is trying to push out than publishing papers in a field i have no experience in. i was told they wanted a software dev, and when i said i wanted to work on a greenfield project, they got defensive about why i didn't say i was excited to publish papers.

when i said i can't give a hard number i'd be happy with without knowing the full position and responsibilities, they got aggy asking what other things i needed to take into account. when i told them it depends on if they want someone autonomous designing the systems or just a machine they feed a prompt and get back code, they basically threw up their hands and said "well what do you want?" idk dude, you're the one signing the checks, it's your bullshit project, i thought you'd know what you needed.

it's nice to get reminders of how much i hate dealing with academics, and especially how awful megalabs are at academic institutions

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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Nap Ghost
you cant become that sorta peep without winning a vicious knifefight. i sorta imagine dealing w top prizeighters and actors and stuff is just as bad

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Corla Plankun posted:

When a data engineer job lists "fin-tech" experience as a nice-to-have, what do y'all reckon that means? I have a shitload of experience so I'm sure I've done something adjacent to most of the things going on in fintech, but I'd love some context from anyone who has actually worked in fintech.

here are some guesses that come to my mind:
* fintech transaction data is big: ive worked in ad-tech so i've done big transaciton logs
* regulatory compliance: i worked in adtech before/during/after gdpr and built the stuff to make us comply
* systems integration: i've integrated with (and made) a shitload of apis
* financial product knowledge: this is probably my worst area but i have learned stuff about markets and mechanisms quickly in the past so i could probably cram for this

companies (claiming to be) under the fintech umbrella range from hedge funds to payday loans to accounting, it's pretty meaningless at this point. the more relevant thing is what the target company does and if you have relevant experience/knowledge for them

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

bob dobbs is dead posted:

you cant become that sorta peep without winning a vicious knifefight. i sorta imagine dealing w top prizeighters and actors and stuff is just as bad

As the dissertation defense unfurled, it carried the vicious gravity of a street-side knife duel under a flickering neon sign. The lowly candidate, ensnared in the harsh fluorescent spotlight at the room's center, grasped his laser pointer like a blunt dagger against the predatory scholars. His thesis, a hastily assembled shiv compared to their obtuse hammering questions, was his only shield against the academic warlords waiting to crush him for their own egos. The room stank of looming defeat and the bitter tang of fear, a chilling overture to the inevitable butchery of the candidate's work. As he presented his opening slide, a silent signal, the onslaught commenced — probing inquiries and criticisms flew from the professors' ruthless grips. Each attack was met with a flimsy defense, each counterargument falling short of a convincing parry. Sweat dripped from his brow, the dread equivalent of blood spilling from a fatal wound, while his eyes held the grim acceptance of impending defeat. Despite the desperate dance of doctorate combat, the inevitability of the candidates rejection weighed on his shoulders, turning the academic fray into a chilling theater of lost battles.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/faq-the-snake-fight-portion-of-your-thesis-defense

Chopstick Dystopia
Jun 16, 2010


lowest high and highest low loser of: WEED WEE
k

ultrafilter posted:

I really don't see how an audiobook of that would work, but you do you.

it worked great for me, it's actually a pretty well done audio book

I passed the 4 technicals, onto the culture fit poo poo

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
hey yall im feeling extremely bad about getting ghosted after a technical challenge last week (recruiter told me it was a "no" and the interviewer didn't even reply to my followup email, woof), would any of y'all mind looking at a (python, docker compose) repo and giving me some feedback?

i am too goddamn old to be this upset about it but i think me and cpcolin were just talking about how much this sucks like last month and i have not grown at all since then

i don't want to post it widely in case the company cares (there's some bits in it that are very specific to the company) but i could really use some feedback that isn't just going from "can't wait to meet with you again!" to refusing to even email me. There's no way my submission was THAT bad but all my brain can think about is what if it was though???

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I'm going to be away from screens all weekend but I'd be willing to take a look when I get back

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe

Corla Plankun posted:

hey yall im feeling extremely bad about getting ghosted after a technical challenge last week (recruiter told me it was a "no" and the interviewer didn't even reply to my followup email, woof), would any of y'all mind looking at a (python, docker compose) repo and giving me some feedback?

i am too goddamn old to be this upset about it but i think me and cpcolin were just talking about how much this sucks like last month and i have not grown at all since then

i don't want to post it widely in case the company cares (there's some bits in it that are very specific to the company) but i could really use some feedback that isn't just going from "can't wait to meet with you again!" to refusing to even email me. There's no way my submission was THAT bad but all my brain can think about is what if it was though???

Sure, link it.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

cover letters don't matter right? my bf is spending a lot of time on his cover letter. trying to convince him the time is better spent on the resume or interview prep

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

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cover letters are an ideal task for mr geoffrey pontus terrance the fourth

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Juul-Whip posted:

cover letters don't matter right? my bf is spending a lot of time on his cover letter. trying to convince him the time is better spent on the resume or interview prep

I think it's worth spending time to write "categories" of cover letter. I have two categories of cover letter, one for privacy engineering roles and one for software engineering roles. It takes me 2 mins to swap out the company names in the letter for an application.

I don't think it's worth time spending a lot of time on one cover letter for a specific role unless you really want to work at that company and your writing skills are better than geoffrey pontus terrance.

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



the truth is that when I'm hiring I rarely read a cover letter and when I do it's not making a difference unless it's full of slurs or something

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Juul-Whip posted:

cover letters don't matter right? my bf is spending a lot of time on his cover letter. trying to convince him the time is better spent on the resume or interview prep

i just got out of an interview where the guy was like "wow usually people don't submit cover letters, i really like yours it's very thoughtful!" but i think that's probably not a universal experience by any means lol

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

and like, i literally used the cover letter template in the BFC resumes and interviewing thread OP so lol

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...
you should do it, because getting rejected for something silly would suck

it shouldn't be high effort and One Goon not reading them doesn't condemn the entire exercise across the industry. categories with max 30 minutes customization per company is fine

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

alright sounds good. it’s the first thing he’s applied for in a while so there’s no template to quickly customize. so not a complete waste of time then

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Juul-Whip posted:

alright sounds good. it’s the first thing he’s applied for in a while so there’s no template to quickly customize. so not a complete waste of time then

there is a template, it's here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3553582

quote:

Cover letters are simple. "I'm applying for your position of CHOCOLATE TEAPOT MAKER. I would be a good fit for this position because of my experience with SKILL #1 FROM JOB DESCRIPTION and SKILL #2 FROM JOB DESCRIPTION I gained at PRIOR EMPLOYER. In fact, I RELEVANT STATISTIC ABOUT A SKILL IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION THAT SOUNDS IMPRESSIVE. I am excited about this position with COMPANY NAME HERE because of TIDBIT FROM WEBSITE. I look forward to speaking with you."

i just took that and adjusted it to fit what i was applying for and added like one or two lines i thought would work well and make me sound more appealing and bam

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
doing a cover letter makes you stand out a little bit from the vast mass of applications that dont have cover letters

if you are cold applying to listings (and not working your network of contacts) then its a numbers game and anything that has a chance of bumping your response rate, even by a little, is worth doing

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
see also: sending thank-you notes after an interview

Truman Peyote
Oct 11, 2006



JawnV6 posted:

it shouldn't be high effort and One Goon not reading them doesn't condemn the entire exercise across the industry. categories with max 30 minutes customization per company is fine

Reading this makes me realize that my earlier post makes it sound like I don't think it's worth having a cover letter at all. I do; I just don't think it's worth putting a lot of effort into. A good resume will do more to secure an interview than a good cover letter in most cases.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
exactly. get gilbert polonius theramin to do it

the requirement is posed in mediocre faith, respond in mediocre faith to it

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

FMguru posted:

see also: sending thank-you notes after an interview

how do you get the interviewers emails? i send a general thank you email to the recruiter but i never get the interviewers emails to send one directly to them.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

KidDynamite posted:

how do you get the interviewers emails? i send a general thank you email to the recruiter but i never get the interviewers emails to send one directly to them.

ive only had a few people do this to me, but when they have, they've just sent it on linkedin as a DM or whatever they call it.

tk
Dec 10, 2003

Nap Ghost

Truman Peyote posted:

the truth is that when I'm hiring I rarely read a cover letter and when I do it's not making a difference unless it's full of slurs or something

Same but also having a cover letter won’t hurt so you should do it.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

KidDynamite posted:

how do you get the interviewers emails? i send a general thank you email to the recruiter but i never get the interviewers emails to send one directly to them.

at the end there's usually a moment that's like

them: "do you have any other questions for me?"

me: "not off the top of my head, but could i get your email if you don't mind in case something comes to me later?"

I've been doing that the last few rounds of interviews :shrug:

KidDynamite
Feb 11, 2005

got another not senior enough but the team really liked you and the hiring manager said they will get more headcount soon and we'll revisit and they will hire you then rejections. this is loving absurd.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


KidDynamite posted:

got another not senior enough but the team really liked you and the hiring manager said they will get more headcount soon and we'll revisit and they will hire you then rejections. this is loving absurd.

I had one of those once so I wrote a polite "please get in touch when it may be possible" as a response to that and never heard back lmbo. And then when I tried applying to another position with them some months later (we're talking about a company that might or might not be HP here, they have other positions) I got told it's too soon after a rejection.

Not saying it's definitely the case but some places just say that to everyone I assume.

e: thankfully that was before the current troubles

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 00:00 on May 26, 2023

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


we were this || close to extending offers to two people and the higher ups slammed the door shut. we’re in a hiring freeze too for the foreseeable future. sorry to everyone who hasn’t been able to find a chair now that the music has stopped. i give it 50/50 odds ill still have mine a year from now

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


lol

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


what's a good not computer career

lord fifth
Dec 26, 2019

LUCK ???
well they all require going to work, so

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

KidDynamite posted:

got another not senior enough but the team really liked you and the hiring manager said they will get more headcount soon and we'll revisit and they will hire you then rejections. this is loving absurd.

sorry this keeps on happening to you homie

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
april seems like just about the worst time i could've been laid off. the big firms had already laid off a shitload of people so i was extremely late to the job hunting party and everything is moving glacially. previously my longest period of unemployment was two weeks and i'm coming up on two months now

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

to add to the interviewing woes i keep on getting contacted by recruiters, but after i refuse to give them a number i never hear from them again

AnimeIsTrash fucked around with this message at 00:45 on May 26, 2023

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i am a moron
Nov 12, 2020

"I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on it’s that Penn State and Michigan both suck and are garbage and it’s hilarious Michigan fans are freaking out thinking this is their natty window when they can’t even beat a B12 team in the playoffs lmao"
There’s so few recruiters left and so many candidates they probably aren’t spending time on anyone who isn’t jumping through their hoops

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