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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Kchama posted:

Nice article from March. Yes, we know that armies fight with shovels as melee weapons all the time blah blah who cares?


Thks coincides with them talking about ammo shortages on Russia 1/ Solyov's show. He was sporting the mao suit while talking about running out of ammo and having problems keeping all the units loaded up.


Also the loss of planes is really going to ruck with Russia. Like I. A big way. They will get to a point where they can't put a jet over Ukraine without it being eradicated.



Also Ukraine has destroyed 100 artillery pieces in the last 3 days, putting Russia another step backwards percentage wise.

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Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

An interesting fact is that while Russia was bragging about a hypersonic weapon, the US successfully tested an actual one that worked; after updating everyone on previous failures

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-successfully-tested-lockheed-hypersonic-missile-this-week-sources-2022-07-13/

I remember seeing that video of the Kinzals flying over and thinking "seems awfully slow for being hypersonic" and well, has anyone considered the idea that maybe they aren't actually hypersonic?

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Oldsmobile posted:

I remember seeing that video of the Kinzals flying over and thinking "seems awfully slow for being hypersonic" and well, has anyone considered the idea that maybe they aren't actually hypersonic?

Lies, malicious western lies and Wehrkraftzersetzung. This is a post that might actually be illegal in Russia and get you jail time if the judge has had a bad day

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Oldsmobile posted:

I remember seeing that video of the Kinzals flying over and thinking "seems awfully slow for being hypersonic" and well, has anyone considered the idea that maybe they aren't actually hypersonic?

They aren't, Russia insists they are. Kinzhals are cruise missiles.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

I mean, if you showed a bunch of military brass your new wonder weapon and said it's "really really fast" and showed them "big BIG number" on screen, how could they verify that? They'd just have to trust you. So you and your team get bonus and to keep whatever money was spent on the project.

You get a dacha, you get a dacha, EVERYONE GETS A DACHA!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

MrQwerty posted:

They aren't, Russia insists they are. Kinzhals are cruise missiles.

Aren't kinzhals air-carried iskander ICBMs? So they should be hypersonic, but who knows, it's Russia, and they are currently putting their missile scientists on trial for reason, so things probably aren't going well

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Anyway,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CDu1hYXxk

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

steinrokkan posted:

Aren't kinzhals air-carried iskander ICBMs? So they should be hypersonic, but who knows, it's Russia, and they are currently putting their missile scientists on trial for reason, so things probably aren't going well

I'm just saying, if Patriots are intercepting them at the rate they are, they're fancy expensive cruise missiles.

Bluemillion
Aug 18, 2008

I got your dispensers
right here

steinrokkan posted:

Aren't kinzhals air-carried iskander ICBMs? So they should be hypersonic, but who knows, it's Russia, and they are currently putting their missile scientists on trial for reason, so things probably aren't going well

For *treason*, but Russia putting people on trial for reason is still plausible.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-says-ukraine-war-could-last-decades-ria-agency-2023-05-26/

Medvedev said the quiet part aloud and what Russia's plan in case of a truce would be: 3 years of rearmament and then going for Kyiv again

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

TulliusCicero posted:

It's wildly pathetic beyond words, especially for the supposed "2nd best military in the world".

Oh I see the confusion. It's actually "the number two army in the world".

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
Making number twos is Putin's CO power.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1661976084131217409
Go gently caress yourselves.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Oldsmobile posted:

I remember seeing that video of the Kinzals flying over and thinking "seems awfully slow for being hypersonic" and well, has anyone considered the idea that maybe they aren't actually hypersonic?

Once they hit the lower, denser parts of the atmosphere they'll lose a lot of speed through friction.

For ICBMs that's likely still hypersonic but for smaller weapons with a lower maximum altitude they might be below that threshold. It might even be necessary for them to hit their targets, I'm not sure how well precision guidance systems work when sheathed in plasma.

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

Viller posted:

They aint touching Nato countries anytime soon or touching swedish anything, Putin may be crazy but he aint stupid enough to commit national suicide.

Why is it that everyone keeps making this same goddamned mistake. Over, and over, and over again.

Putin aint stupid enough to commit national suicide, he says, while Putin is committing national suicide, leaning into it super hard, and accelerating. There is no reason to believe Putin will not do staggeringly stupid poo poo, to the detriment of everyone, including himself. He's a goddamned sonichu naruto runner of national suicide.

Idiot: Putin is surely too smart to do that.
Meanwhile putin: :holy:

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Kinzhal is pathetic when you realise it's stated joke range of 1900km includes being ferried 1500km by its launching aircraft.

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

Drone_Fragger posted:

Kinzhal is pathetic when you realise it's stated joke range of 1900km includes being ferried 1500km by its launching aircraft.

I can run a marathon after being carried 42 kilometers.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.
Vladimir Putin shits his pants daily, which is fitting given that he's a huge piece of poo poo.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Viller posted:

They aint touching Nato countries anytime soon or touching swedish anything, Putin may be crazy but he aint stupid enough to commit national suicide.

He may have already done that.

fizzy posted:

Bad news for Russia - Wagner forces in Bakhmut are short on ammunition and forced to fight with shovels


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-troops-fight-shovels-ammo-shortage-bakhmut-prigozhin-wagner-rcna73501

This bullshit again. The use of entrenching tools in close combat is a thing and has been for over a century. It says nothing about ammo supplies to a unit that found itself in close quarters trench fighting, ganking someone with an entrenching tool is a really good way to put them down.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


GABA ghoul posted:

[what Russia's plan in case of a truce would be: 3 years of rearmament and then going for Kyiv again

Time to sanction Russia down to its natural technological state of donkey carts and wheat flails being the closest they get again to tanks and AK's for a hundred year interregnum to give the populace a chance to hatch anew with no living memory of when they were mighty enough to be global shitheels.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Oldsmobile posted:

I remember seeing that video of the Kinzals flying over and thinking "seems awfully slow for being hypersonic" and well, has anyone considered the idea that maybe they aren't actually hypersonic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gne7beWy8fU

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
Challenger 2 tank vs. copelerones

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1661901212168617984

propagandist moaning about frozen assets, because they would be spent on bridges and schools... yeah, right

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1661995630959509505

Another propagandist: "Russia haven't even started yet! We can build up qualitatively!" sends technical with a 80-year old Soviet naval gun welded on top

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1661972050058067968

Dwesa fucked around with this message at 08:50 on May 26, 2023

Tarquinn
Jul 3, 2007

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you
my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
Hell Gem
I can't get over of how much of a joke those Russian anti-tank obstacles are.

They made such a big deal out of them. :v:

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

It still blows my mind that the Challenger 2 is 50% heavier than a T-90 and has the same top speed.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Are you surprised? The specs probably called for them to be one metre longer and bedded into the ground properly, like the original nazi designs (lmao).

But the inspection teams can only see what is above ground. So dont add 70% of the concrete, pocket the difference and golden dacha toilet here we go.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006


we'll see these robots in combat before armata

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/tsologoub/status/1661980334232317953
What was the use of lying now that the truth is out there for all to see?

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005


Well, yes, pushing aside a single row of unobserved, unguarded dragon's teeth without tank mines or trenches full of dug in Russians shooting at you isn't very hard.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

beer_war posted:

Well, yes, pushing aside a single row of unobserved, unguarded dragon's teeth without tank mines or trenches full of dug in Russians shooting at you isn't very hard.

Well yes that's the russian defenses so it makes sense to train for that

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65615184

Don't assume it's gonna be as easy as the Belgorod raid where the Russians clearly weren't expecting an attack.

To be clear, I hope the Ukrainians smash through their defences as much as anyone. But let's not pretend it's gonna be a cakewalk.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1662007043681665025

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Biolabs!!!

beer_war posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65615184

Don't assume it's gonna be as easy as the Belgorod raid where the Russians clearly weren't expecting an attack.

To be clear, I hope the Ukrainians smash through their defences as much as anyone. But let's not pretend it's gonna be a cakewalk.
That's the trick, you attack where they don't expect it!

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

beer_war posted:

Well, yes, pushing aside a single row of unobserved, unguarded dragon's teeth without tank mines or trenches full of dug in Russians shooting at you isn't very hard.
Yes, dragon's teeth are just one small part of defensive lines. But it can be said they probably won't be much of an issue and there are bigger issues.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

beer_war posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65615184

Don't assume it's gonna be as easy as the Belgorod raid where the Russians clearly weren't expecting an attack.

To be clear, I hope the Ukrainians smash through their defences as much as anyone. But let's not pretend it's gonna be a cakewalk.

It’s the line on the Kherson and southern front that was shown by Russians themselves to be engineered poorly and lacking any additional elements.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

beer_war posted:

Well, yes, pushing aside a single row of unobserved, unguarded dragon's teeth without tank mines or trenches full of dug in Russians shooting at you isn't very hard.

The supporting line of defenses is two mobiks asleep in a border guard post

E: pundits keep writing "it's plain to see that Russia is finally getting their poo poo together!" only for Russia to prove them wrong every time.

steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 09:45 on May 26, 2023

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Mokotow posted:

It’s the line on the Kherson and southern front that was shown by Russians themselves to be engineered poorly and lacking any additional elements.

Makes sense given the Ukrainians are on the other side of the Dnepr.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1661669704375627777
Who'd a thunk it? :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/mexic0la_/status/1661570244799004672
:troll:

zone fucked around with this message at 10:36 on May 26, 2023

Force de Fappe
Nov 7, 2008

Arc Hammer posted:

McCain being dead is less of an "only sane man" situation and more of a "Worst person you know just made a great point"

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018


why was putin driving so slow?

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zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1662030629020549124

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