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sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



Pain of Mind posted:

I am fine with 100 free Jade for a presentation I was not going to watch anyway, what blows my mind is the actual cost if you buy stuff. If you asked me to guess how much things cost from the store, I would have been at about 10% of what it actually is. $0.10 seems fair for a roll, what it actually is is insane. Spending AAA game money on a 50% chance to get some guy to play within the game.

welcome to gacha, it loving sucks

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big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Pain of Mind posted:

I am fine with 100 free Jade for a presentation I was not going to watch anyway, what blows my mind is the actual cost if you buy stuff. If you asked me to guess how much things cost from the store, I would have been at about 10% of what it actually is. $0.10 seems fair for a roll, what it actually is is insane. Spending AAA game money on a 50% chance to get some guy to play within the game.

What really loving sucks is that it works so well that people will ruin their loving lives spending all their money on it

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Much more than AAA games actually. To hit your pity at 90ish pulls with actual dollars it's gonna be like $150+ CAD

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Indecisive posted:

oof :( Guess you got 2 LC's? from what people have been saying I guess your next 5* should be a character guaranteed, but it does suck to have to wait that long for one since at this point normal ticket income is pretty slow

there is no such guarantee

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 4 days!)

I grew up on arcades so I don’t really bat an eye on spending $5 every now and then on a few continues for a few extra mats each day

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Pain of Mind posted:

I am fine with 100 free Jade for a presentation I was not going to watch anyway, what blows my mind is the actual cost if you buy stuff. If you asked me to guess how much things cost from the store, I would have been at about 10% of what it actually is. $0.10 seems fair for a roll, what it actually is is insane. Spending AAA game money on a 50% chance to get some guy to play within the game.
and the insane thing is that while rolls are pretty expensive in this game at least there's inbuilt pity. some games just let you spend 500 dollars and not even get the thing you want.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

or loving yearly sports games with insane mtx where not only is it insane gacha for mild stat boosts in online play but also every year your account gets reset

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Endorph posted:

or loving yearly sports games with insane mtx where not only is it insane gacha for mild stat boosts in online play but also every year your account gets reset

it's insanely funny (funny) how much credit card theft is involved with fifa ultimate team

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

UHD posted:

there is no such guarantee

That's how the standard banner works in Genshin and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work that way here

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Kild posted:

That's how the standard banner works in Genshin and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work that way here
it doesnt work that way here, for some reason.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Kild posted:

That's how the standard banner works in Genshin and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work that way here

i have yet to see any proof of this anywhere

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Endorph posted:

it doesnt work that way here, for some reason.

extremely hosed up

ultrachrist
Sep 27, 2008
Only character quests in 1.1? Think it’s time to start burning fuel since I can’t imagine I’ll hang on just doing dailies for another month.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

ultrachrist posted:

Only character quests in 1.1? Think it’s time to start burning fuel since I can’t imagine I’ll hang on just doing dailies for another month.
i mean there's also events

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

ultrachrist posted:

Only character quests in 1.1? Think it’s time to start burning fuel since I can’t imagine I’ll hang on just doing dailies for another month.

massive letdown

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

gacha devs are very aware that 99% of people who straight up spend money on pulls and get nothing are probably never gonna do it again, so they price it for the whales who get hooked and keep going.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
Edited my post to be a bit more of a generic complaint in that it seems exploitive, especially with an audience that might not be as worldly as real gamblers. Not sure how tightly it is regulated, but I would assume it is less than real gambling. You should be able to max out your account for a lot less money.

Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 02:20 on May 27, 2023

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Taking the gacha game companies side whenever someone complains about some lovely thing they’ve done under literally any circumstance always makes you a loser dweeb. Hope this helps clear things up.

They’ve got the single most predatory business practices this side of payday loans.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?




:negative: I already have this one..... this marks the third light cone I've gotten off the standard banner and no 5* characters. i know i should be happy because three 5*s in 100 pulls is nuts, but like.... i wanted a character..................

i assume i should still keep the two separate like 5* weapons in genshin, yeah?

Ghosthotel
Dec 27, 2008


ok im a destruction believer now



Seele's ult crit for something like 65k on gepard which is about 25k higher than I've ever hit running Hunt, even if I managed to pull every blessing. When she broke the shield in his final phase the damage that popped up was something absurd like 250k lmao

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Ghosthotel posted:

ok im a destruction believer now



Seele's ult crit for something like 65k on gepard which is about 25k higher than I've ever hit running Hunt, even if I managed to pull every blessing. When she broke the shield in his final phase the damage that popped up was something absurd like 250k lmao

Destruction produces bigger numbers than Hunt, but Hunt's gimmick is being usable more often through multiple means - recharge on kill, being able to stock two uses, most hunt blessings making you take more turns/go faster so you charge the meter more, etc.

Destruction is definitely very good overall, but I find it's kind of an all or nothing path where it's great if you get all the synergies going but it's pretty awful if you get unlucky and are stuck with a smattering of different blessing types.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

After my last SU failure I ground up my sampo...uh i mean I grinded him some levels and gear and went in with Nihility and getting 99 stacks of suspciion or whatever and having svarog just eat poo poo from dots at 55% health was pretty sayisfying.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

NieR Occomata posted:

Taking the gacha game companies side whenever someone complains about some lovely thing they’ve done under literally any circumstance always makes you a loser dweeb. Hope this helps clear things up.

They’ve got the single most predatory business practices this side of payday loans.

So criticize the predatory parts and/or don't play the game, both are totally reasonable, but complaining about not getting enough free poo poo for some mild inconvenience that doesn't affect you in any way is still big Karen energy.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
I don't think anyone cares about the inconvenience; if they didn't give us anything at all that might have gone without comment. The complaint is just about the standard practice of throwing pennies at us for whatever arbitrary reason.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

So criticize the predatory parts and/or don't play the game, both are totally reasonable, but complaining about not getting enough free poo poo for some mild inconvenience that doesn't affect you in any way is still big Karen energy.

As aforementioned taking the gacha game company’s side makes you, in fact, a big ol’ loser dweeb.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

NieR Occomata posted:

As aforementioned taking the gacha game company’s side makes you, in fact, a big ol’ loser dweeb.

If you say so, but playing the game while thinking you're any better seems a bit delusional.

ExtrudeAlongCurve
Oct 21, 2010

Lambert is my Homeboy
I just do all my SU with elation since my damage dealers are Clara and Jing Yuan.

This does seem to mean I'm suffering in content that wants me to clear in small number of turns and that's kinda annoying. Lightning Lord can only go so fast and Clara needs poo poo to constantly hit her.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

Guys guys guys, don’t go after the French royals okay. They let us make cake out of bread shavings. Yum yum yum. You don’t have to eat it you know, that makes you a Karen.

Araganzar
May 24, 2003

Needs more cowbell!
Fun Shoe
can we just agree everyone involved in any way is bad and move on

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

NieR Occomata posted:

Guys guys guys, don’t go after the French royals okay. They let us make cake out bread shavings. Yum yum yum. You don’t have to eat it you know, that makes you a Karen.

cool cool do you have anything to post about Honkai Star Rail or...?

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

aids

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

personally i love taking the gacha company's side. every day i log on and make a new account just to buy all the top up bonuses again. i dont even play it, i just do it to give hoyoverse some walking around money

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

woah... going after the chinese company just for trying to make money? uhm, red scare, much? like, good morning, president trump. thats a yikes from me.

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 4 days!)

Almost finished on relics with my yanqing. Holding out for an atk necklace off the 2-part set with at least a crit dam. Substat

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I honestly wouldn’t have complained about not getting gems for a delay in the stream lmao. But they did the equivalent of giving me 10 cents and telling me not to spend it all in one place kiddo.

It’s really not a big deal I made a comment and a bunch of MHY stans came out I guess.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


so how about those space trains

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




Not enough of them

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

So criticize the predatory parts and/or don't play the game, both are totally reasonable, but complaining about not getting enough free poo poo for some mild inconvenience that doesn't affect you in any way is still big Karen energy.

Boris literally karen'ed in Genshin by gloating about abusing some poor customer service person who probably doesn't know what a Genshin is outside of the company that hired them so

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

woah hold on you cant just leave that unexplained

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GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 4 days!)

life is the worst gacha

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