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that may be but if you search logged in and out and even use incognito mode to whatever extent that works, the results are different across every google property i've used
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jemand posted:It's pretty clear dude had an absolutely incorrect understanding of what was going on. I.e., thought he was talking to an actual no-poo poo artificial intelligence who had direct and ongoing access to vast legal databases. calling it artificial intelligence makes people who don't spend all their time around computer stuff think it's some kind of artificial intelligence?? next you're going to tell me tesla's autopilot can't actually drive the car reliably without me monitoring it, ridiculous
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May 27, 2023 19:26
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there are some subjects where nazis have basically seo-ed themselves to the top of the results regardless of any personalizations for example, be real careful about what you click on if you're trying to learn about the Leo Frank trial and lynching
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May 27, 2023 19:59
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obviously the solution is generative AI
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May 27, 2023 19:59
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Sagebrush posted:now i don't think that this 30 year veteran lawyer used chatgpt to intentionally fabricate cases, brazenly thinking that nobody would check up on them or something. oh my god I hadn't even thought about that. I had just gone for a couple of "looks like it's right but is actually wrong" cases to try and damp down the enthusiasm from various people at work (in legal no less lmao)but I hadn't even considered someone being dumb enough to use it like that.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:oh my god I hadn't even thought about that. I had just gone for a couple of "looks like it's right but is actually wrong" cases to try and damp down the enthusiasm from various people at work (in legal no less lmao)but I hadn't even considered someone being dumb enough to use it like that. really? cuz everyone's using it like that. i pointed out a little while ago how people were saying poo poo like "i searched for it on chatgpt" and how that's a fun terrifying new sentence we're gonna be hearing a lot of
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May 27, 2023 20:33
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journalists have done that too. i don't have a specific link but i've seen more than one tweet from people saying a (made up) quote was attributed to them that the person writing the article "found on chatgpt" people are using it like a search engine because the real ones are so bad now
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May 27, 2023 20:39
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Beeftweeter posted:journalists have done that too. i don't have a specific link but i've seen more than one tweet from people saying a (made up) quote was attributed to them that the person writing the article "found on chatgpt" also more importantly because it's being irresponsibly pushed as a magic oracle by everyone involved
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May 27, 2023 20:46
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Shame Boy posted:also more importantly because it's being irresponsibly pushed as a magic oracle by everyone involved
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May 27, 2023 20:48
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yep. i think most people see it somewhere between "this is like google, but it always gives you the answer you're looking for, so convenient" and "this is an artificial intelligence that knows everything about everything." this is what happens when you let engineers ("engineers") release poo poo out into the world without doing any ethical, psychological, human factors, or safety analysis on what they've built.  "this thing you've made is neat, but how is an untrained user likely to use it? are there improper or unacceptable uses? what happens if they use it in those ways? how could the system be misused out of ignorance, and would doing so have negative outcomes? what are the foreseeable risks of this technology?" "i don't care"
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May 27, 2023 20:58
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I can't remember but wasn't there some disclaimer you have to click through the first time? I could be thinking of bing or Google bard though
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May 27, 2023 21:04
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well you do not get billions in investments by doing stuff in a regulated and cautious way. and anyway, if anything goes wrong, all you have to say is "we hear you and we take full responsibility" and that's it.
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mystes posted:I can't remember but wasn't there some message you have to click through the first time? i think there is but  also in this particular case you know that the 30 year partner got some 2L intern to set it up for him and never saw that message, if he would even have cared
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May 27, 2023 21:06
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mystes posted:I can't remember but wasn't there some disclaimer you have to click through the first time? the fact you can’t remember what was in the disclaimer sums up the whole problem with just telling people it’s shortcomings once in a disclaimer though, doesn’t it?
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hey they might update the disclaimer and let everyone know by changing the date or revision number
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Sagebrush posted:this is what happens when you let engineers ("engineers") release poo poo out into the world without doing any ethical, psychological, human factors, or safety analysis on what they've built. yeah same with biases in the results. it’s always “we’ve found that our ai never generates black people. this is a problem for the future” then you strangely never hear about it again.
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May 27, 2023 21:22
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multiple coworkers of mine consider gpt4 an authority on technical matters, as in “i checked to see if that’s possible but gpt4 says it isn’t  “
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If you think that chat gpt is already sophisticated enough to do your job for you then I guess your employer should just fire you and use chat gpt
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May 27, 2023 21:32
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Sagebrush posted:yep. i think most people see it somewhere between "this is like google, but it always gives you the answer you're looking for, so convenient" and "this is an artificial intelligence that knows everything about everything." google nuked their entire ai ethics team because jeff dean didn’t appreciate the most milquetoast ‘maybe don’t boil the ocean’ critique
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look, no technological ethics committee has ever actually worked, we still have nuclear arsenals and gas weapons and cluster bombs. i guess we add these fuckin things to the mix at least the death count is not even in the hundreds yet, and prolly not gonna hit hundreds of thousands easily
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the only technology we’ve effectively suppressed is human eugenics
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hey, it only took them a few decades to mostly ban leaded gas
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idk genetic modifications are already possible, its just that nobody's figured out how to make us all hyper buff supertall geniuses with it. of course nobody in yospos needs such a thing,
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BMan posted:hey, it only took them a few decades to mostly ban leaded gas sagebrush doing cessna loops over the valley is praxis
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in a well actually posted:sagebrush doing cessna loops over the valley is praxis i have flown low over the oracle, facebook, and google headquarters many times  rotor posted:the only technology we’ve effectively suppressed is human eugenics and that only took the largest war in history and around 50 million dead
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they're in the middle of whacking tay-sachs disease from jewish peeps by pre-implantation egg diagnosis, and the peeps who are doing it make real fuckin sure not to call it eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevention_of_Tay%E2%80%93Sachs_disease but, uhh....
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Sagebrush posted:and that only took the largest war in history and around 50 million dead the eugenics is coming from inside the america
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mystes posted:I can't remember but wasn't there some disclaimer you have to click through the first time? I believe that went through multiple versions without a way for me to look up what it used to say.
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in a well actually posted:google nuked their entire ai ethics team because jeff dean didn’t appreciate the most milquetoast ‘maybe don’t boil the ocean’ critique https://twitter.com/timnitgebru/status/1662525394342522880
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Sagebrush posted:and that only took the largest war in history and around 50 million dead 
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can't argue with that because i don't know what you're saying, you got me
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em waves and untreated schizophrenics bein nuts have gone together since the air loom guy
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i really like the thought that the reason we have wars is because each country's president meets the other president in a room together to like, discuss a trade deal or something, but then accidentally says the wrong words and then the other guy challenges them to a country duel
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Shame Boy posted:really? cuz everyone's using it like that. i pointed out a little while ago how people were saying poo poo like "i searched for it on chatgpt" and how that's a fun terrifying new sentence we're gonna be hearing a lot of asking questions like "explain X to me" sure but not like, "can you provide references to back up my argument that.." because lmao oh my god that is gonna return some wild poo poo
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bob dobbs is dead posted:thats, uh, thats personalized results nah I remember the MLK front page thing too from 2001ish era google. there was a front page search result for the Vietnam war that explained that the US definitely won and soldiers loved it over there. the algo was easy to bait back in the day, then it good better, now it’s bad again.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:thats, uh, thats personalized results nah, it wasn’t that. neo nazis bought the domain martainlutherking dot org and created a fairly subtle white supremacy website. It used to rank very highly for the relevant search terms. https://www.thedailybeast.com/martinlutherkingorg-is-owned-by-neo-nazis I think it’s been pretty much banned from most terms not but back when SEO highly prioritized domain names it was top of the list
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they're in the middle of whacking tay-sachs disease from jewish peeps by pre-implantation egg diagnosis, and the peeps who are doing it make real fuckin sure not to call it eugenics i think it’s quite a slippery slope to go from peeps voluntarily eradicating their own genetic diseases to forced sterilization but idk
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