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Fil5000 posted:Looks as though he kept going and didn't respond to any of the criticism beyond renaming the video to "How will the Chris Tyson situation impact Mr Beast?". His more recent videos look like they have lower view counts than previous ones but still generally >1m views per video He's one of those people that is supported by several big name "commentary" youtubers and the whole ordeal was excused in a "Oh well, HE ONLY HAD A FEW HOURS TO MAKE IT BEFORE THE WINDOW OF RELEVANCE WENT AWAY" sort of way, so his average audience didn't give much a drat about it. Meanwhile Illuminaughty's audience are people who wanna see more munecat type stuff, so their standards are high enough to mind that sorta stuff. For those that like just putting stuff on the background, 80sCommercialVault is about to hit their 1000th video. Kunster fucked around with this message at 13:03 on May 28, 2023 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:The big reasons that the illuminati person is suddenly tweeting are because at least one big sponsor dropped her and she's lawyering up lol she could just do the sunny v2 thing of posting through it and ignoring even Mr beast Uh if she does sue the person she by her own admittance in the video said was very vulnerable that moves this from lovely person to actual monster. I think there are laws in many states that try to prevent a random rich person trying to put a vulnerable person through the legal ringer, but you can’t just keep trying to destroy someone just because you can’t post on Nebula anymore or whatever.
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May 28, 2023 14:54
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Shinji2015 posted:Yeah, a streamer I used to watch a lot of started playing FF14 after letting her chat talk her into playing it on stream, went hard into it, and now that she's done with it and moving on from it being an every stream type of thing, her numbers have dropped quite a bit. She was primarily a variety streamer before she got bit by the FF14 bug, but now that she's transitioning back to variety streaming, her numbers are lower than they were before she started playing FF14 to begin with. It's depressing watching a streamer feel like they're trapped by a game, although FFXIV is probably better for it than trying to play a game that purports itself to be competitive with toxic communities like asymmetrical horror games.
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May 28, 2023 14:57
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Dawgstar posted:It's depressing watching a streamer feel like they're trapped by a game, although FFXIV is probably better for it than trying to play a game that purports itself to be competitive with toxic communities like asymmetrical horror games. What is asymmetrical horror? Complex polyhedrons?
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May 28, 2023 14:59
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Grassy Knowles posted:What is asymmetrical horror? Complex polyhedrons? It's stuff like Dead by Daylight where the two "teams" play completely differently.
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May 28, 2023 15:03
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Grassy Knowles posted:What is asymmetrical horror? Complex polyhedrons? Something like Dead by Daylight or whatever, I assume. A game where you have like four survivors and one killer.
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May 28, 2023 15:04
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Grassy Knowles posted:What is asymmetrical horror? Complex polyhedrons? think something like dead by daylight where there's powerful killers and scrappy underdog survivors but both roles are manned by players e: lol double beaten
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May 28, 2023 15:04
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RatHat posted:It's stuff like Dead by Daylight where the two "teams" play completely differently. Veotax posted:Something like Dead by Daylight or whatever, I assume. A game where you have like four survivors and one killer. Catgirl Al Capone posted:think something like dead by daylight where there's powerful killers and scrappy underdog survivors but both roles are manned by players Thanks y’all that was fast
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May 28, 2023 15:06
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Dawgstar posted:It's depressing watching a streamer feel like they're trapped by a game, although FFXIV is probably better for it than trying to play a game that purports itself to be competitive with toxic communities like asymmetrical horror games. I can't speak to how toxic the DBD community is since I've never had any interest in it, but yeah, it is. My mom watches this one CoD player who I'm convinced hates CoD because he never looks like he's having fun playing Warzone, he hates Activision-Blizzard and refuses to give them money, but he has thousands of viewers watching his streams and he recently had a kid, so he keeps playing it. Way my mom tells me, he talks about how much he likes PUBG and Halo but never streams them, which makes me think that he tried to and his numbers tanked
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May 28, 2023 15:58
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Shinji2015 posted:Way my mom tells me, he talks about how much he likes PUBG and Halo but never streams them, which makes me think that he tried to and his numbers tanked Could also be a “I do not want kill my actual fun with becoming financially dependent on it again” situation
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May 28, 2023 16:09
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In regards to worldbuilding, I think there was criticism about Final Fantasy XIII where they threw terms like "fal'Cie" or "l'Cie" at us constantly when the game started and we had no idea what any of them meant, and all the backstory that explains this was hidden away in some lore index you had to search for in your menu.
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May 28, 2023 16:27
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Mraagvpeine posted:In regards to worldbuilding, I think there was criticism about Final Fantasy XIII where they threw terms like "fal'Cie" or "l'Cie" at us constantly when the game started and we had no idea what any of them meant, and all the backstory that explains this was hidden away in some lore index you had to search for in your menu. I’ve finished it and by like halfway through you can pick out what they’re talking about. They just named them too similarly for some reason so it scrambles your brain for awhile.
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May 28, 2023 16:29
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Grassy Knowles posted:Could also be a “I do not want kill my actual fun with becoming financially dependent on it again” situation The grind to being 'financially solvent at streaming' is real and it turns even your favorite game into a job if you have to play it 6+ hours a day. Even if you don't play your 'main' game you might not lose out not on only subs and donations and whatnot but people even stop following the channel if they see you playing something else. This is on top of how much of a cut Twitch takes from regular tier 1 subs and since it's technically considered a small business in the US the taxes on it are really high which generally means that people who make a living at Twitch are already financially solvent or have spouses who are. So you're slugging it out in a game for hours most days where you'd rather play like anything else dealing with the percentage of the community that's toxic who'll stream snipe for the lolz or hate raid because you have the tag 'LBTQA' or even just 'Ally' and all sorts of things.
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May 28, 2023 16:42
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Shinji2015 posted:My mom watches this one CoD player no words have ever made me feel older
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May 28, 2023 16:51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McEWh87szQY Does anyone remember Idubbbz? Honestly his humour reminds me a lot of this site before we matured.
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May 28, 2023 16:54
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Dawgstar posted:The grind to being 'financially solvent at streaming' is real and it turns even your favorite game into a job if you have to play it 6+ hours a day. Even if you don't play your 'main' game you might not lose out not on only subs and donations and whatnot but people even stop following the channel if they see you playing something else. This is on top of how much of a cut Twitch takes from regular tier 1 subs and since it's technically considered a small business in the US the taxes on it are really high which generally means that people who make a living at Twitch are already financially solvent or have spouses who are. So you're slugging it out in a game for hours most days where you'd rather play like anything else dealing with the percentage of the community that's toxic who'll stream snipe for the lolz or hate raid because you have the tag 'LBTQA' or even just 'Ally' and all sorts of things. It honestly depends on the audience, but even on variety streamers I've seen a fair share of cases where a streamer straight up stopped playing an old RPG they happened to really like because it tanked their audience horribly. Sometimes there's a lucky break where being really good and engaging with one title means you can transfer the same attributes to other areas, and I know of one where several fighting game streamers decided to make a small retirement period where all they played was MahJong on stream. I will say that Hitbox\Smashcast was far worse on the hate raids than Twitch was.
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May 28, 2023 17:23
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Violet_Sky posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McEWh87szQY I remember watching a few videos of his back in the day. Definitely an interesting message from him, and wow is that a big L from Charlie.
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May 28, 2023 17:27
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Mraagvpeine posted:In regards to worldbuilding, I think there was criticism about Final Fantasy XIII where they threw terms like "fal'Cie" or "l'Cie" at us constantly when the game started and we had no idea what any of them meant, and all the backstory that explains this was hidden away in some lore index you had to search for in your menu. As bad as FF13 was about it, Bungie games are easily the worst for my dumb brain. Whether it's Halo or Destiny, their games become a mess of in-universe terminology. "Guardian, we must use your Light and go to The Library so that we can ask The Illuminator about how to deliver The Crucible to The Kiln so that we can defeat The Didact, The Covenant, The Forerunners, The Taken and win The Deuteronomic War." I've played every Halo game and I genuinely don't know what the plot is a for a number of them.
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May 28, 2023 17:32
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:As bad as FF13 was about it, Bungie games are easily the worst for my dumb brain. Whether it's Halo or Destiny, their games become a mess of in-universe terminology. if you think it's bad now Marathon was like 1000x more cryptic
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May 28, 2023 17:38
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Grassy Knowles posted:Could also be a “I do not want kill my actual fun with becoming financially dependent on it again” situation Very possible, especially if he dislikes CoD as much as I think he does. FuturePastNow posted:no words have ever made me feel older If it helps, my mom is in her late 60's and has been a gamer all my life. When she was pregnant with me (I'm her oldest and in my 40's), she used to make my dad take her to a local bar all the time just so she could play Donkey Kong there. Her all-time favorite series is Halo, and all she watches on Twitch is either art streams or various FPS shooters Shinji2015 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 28, 2023 |
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May 28, 2023 17:41
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Kunster posted:It honestly depends on the audience, but even on variety streamers I've seen a fair share of cases where a streamer straight up stopped playing an old RPG they happened to really like because it tanked their audience horribly. Sometimes there's a lucky break where being really good and engaging with one title means you can transfer the same attributes to other areas, and I know of one where several fighting game streamers decided to make a small retirement period where all they played was MahJong on stream. I will say that Hitbox\Smashcast was far worse on the hate raids than Twitch was. It's true I think Twitch streamers are hip to ways to shut down hate raids now more than they used to be but still, little brings down the vibe like even a couple of racist assholes whose fallback for doing bad at a video game is to come in and yell "heated gamer moments" at the chat.
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May 28, 2023 17:46
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The Saddest Rhino posted:The big reasons that the illuminati person is suddenly tweeting are because at least one big sponsor dropped her and she's lawyering up lol she could just do the sunny v2 thing of posting through it and ignoring even Mr beast Wait, did she really? I was wondering if all of this would actually see any consequences for her beyond social Dawgstar posted:The grind to being 'financially solvent at streaming' is real and it turns even your favorite game into a job if you have to play it 6+ hours a day. Even if you don't play your 'main' game you might not lose out not on only subs and donations and whatnot but people even stop following the channel if they see you playing something else. This is on top of how much of a cut Twitch takes from regular tier 1 subs and since it's technically considered a small business in the US the taxes on it are really high which generally means that people who make a living at Twitch are already financially solvent or have spouses who are. So you're slugging it out in a game for hours most days where you'd rather play like anything else dealing with the percentage of the community that's toxic who'll stream snipe for the lolz or hate raid because you have the tag 'LBTQA' or even just 'Ally' and all sorts of things. All this sounds depressing as hell. It's why I'm glad people like Slowbeef and Voidburger have a dedicated following that are down for anything they do. I know they both have outside employment so they're not super dependent on streaming, leaving them free to do more or less what they want. Like, I can't even imagine streaming for several hours on a game you have grown to hate and then...what? Get off stream and then not even have the mental energy to play a game you like? Sounds like a nightmare
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May 28, 2023 17:59
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Grassy Knowles posted:What is asymmetrical horror? Complex polyhedrons? Pyramid Head is a playable character in Dead by Daylight, so kinda, yeah. Edit: speaking of, whoever it was on DBD's team who figured out how to get a bunch of famous horror characters on their roster is a loving genius. They even got the greater horror legend of them all: Nicolas Cage Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 28, 2023 |
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May 28, 2023 18:35
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I much rather watch a variety streamer than just a single game. Or even "play X game on Tuesday, Y game on Thursday, and Z game on Friday." Though the dude who does a bunch of crosswords on Sunday ( which I cannot watch now because I work on Sunday ) is some of my favorite time streaming. And, IDK, the dude who constantly does dumb TTS - one literally sounds like someone masturbating - but not banned because the streamer gets a cut of those TTS is the worst part of watching streams.
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May 28, 2023 18:39
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Twincityhacker posted:I much rather watch a variety streamer than just a single game. Or even "play X game on Tuesday, Y game on Thursday, and Z game on Friday." Different streamers have different audience interaction things and some of them can be pretty funny though. Like Snamwiches works on a bunch of hard achievement hunting and his viewers can give twitch bits or whatever the currency is to make him just YOLO an attempt. So he’s planning real hard about this fight and the bits get paid and it’s just like “OKAY I GUESS HERE WE GO OVER THE COVER” the best times are when the yolo strats actually work
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May 28, 2023 18:43
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And yet people here keep telling me that paying for audience interaction just isn't a thing in streaming any more.
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May 28, 2023 18:49
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Mraagvpeine posted:In regards to worldbuilding, I think there was criticism about Final Fantasy XIII where they threw terms like "fal'Cie" or "l'Cie" at us constantly when the game started and we had no idea what any of them meant, and all the backstory that explains this was hidden away in some lore index you had to search for in your menu. And now, codexes are much more prolific. DOOM has one, Mass Effect had one, Hades, Dragon Age, etc Hel posted:And yet people here keep telling me that paying for audience interaction just isn't a thing in streaming any more. There's like 700 million streamers, it's hard to say that '0% of people are doing this'
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May 28, 2023 19:14
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Hel posted:And yet people here keep telling me that paying for audience interaction just isn't a thing in streaming any more. Who's saying that? People love the whole 'every five subs means I ram a Carolina Reaper pepper into my mouth.'
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May 28, 2023 19:15
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Dawgstar posted:Who's saying that? People love the whole 'every five subs means I ram a Carolina Reaper pepper into my mouth.' And in less real life masochism, there's a twitch plugin thing called Crowd Control that ties into the streamers game somehow where people can pay money to gently caress with the streamer or even give him powerups and stuff. Don't know how it works, I've only really seen it with like old emulated games like mario 64 and zelda oot.
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May 28, 2023 19:40
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RareAcumen posted:And now, codexes are much more prolific. DOOM has one, Mass Effect had one, Hades, Dragon Age, etc ME and DA released before FFXIII, so it's kind of weird to have them as evidence it's more profilic now. But also ME/DA didn't hide what a spectre/Grey Warden was in the codec, it was part of the main narrative pretty early. That said I do feel people overreacted to the whole L'Cie , Fal´Cie thing, because it's not like you can't understand what basic blueprint they are pulling from pretty easily. Dawgstar posted:Who's saying that? People love the whole 'every five subs means I ram a Carolina Reaper pepper into my mouth.' Thought it was in this thread, but can't find it with search and I can't remember where else I talked about streaming on here.
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May 28, 2023 19:54
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Hel posted:ME and DA released before FFXIII, so it's kind of weird to have them as evidence it's more profilic now. But also ME/DA didn't hide what a spectre/Grey Warden was in the codec, it was part of the main narrative pretty early. That said I do feel people overreacted to the whole L'Cie , Fal´Cie thing, because it's not like you can't understand what basic blueprint they are pulling from pretty easily. Well, we did just have Mass Effect remastered fairly recently, so that's why I ended up thinking about them. Replace those with Witcher 3, Life is Strange, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Dishonored I think, Assassin's Creed and maybe Ghost of Tsushima? Those last two are assumptions, I haven't played an AC game since 3 and I've never played GoT but it feels like it'd have a lot of separate writing on life before the war and etc.
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May 28, 2023 20:24
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I do think it's more prolific, but mostly because every big game now is an open-world collectathon stuffed to the gills with journals, notes, and lore. They might not call it a Codex, but dangit they paid someone to write all those excerpts so there's gotta be someplace in the menus for them to sit unread and forgotten.
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May 28, 2023 20:31
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Really, FF13's biggest mistake is not giving everyone bespoke enough titles. Instead of fal'Cie and l'Cie it should've been Ainur and Maiar which are the Istari, a subset of the Maiar, which serve the Valar, all created by Ilúvatar.
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May 28, 2023 20:38
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Violet_Sky posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McEWh87szQY Ian always stuck out as having a lot of...I dunno if talent or potential are the right words, but he had a pretty good idea of how to be funny and make a good point somewhere in there. But gently caress me if it wasn't miserably slathered in edgy, racist 4chan dogshit and it's why I both kept his content at arms' length to start with and then eventually gave up on it entirely. It's heartening to see him, long and short of it, grow the hell up and own up to it. Meanwhile Charlie seems to have terminal Youtuber brain.
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May 28, 2023 21:17
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Violet_Sky posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McEWh87szQY He’s my favorite YouTuber and his growth has been amazing to watch. I’m glad he made the Apology video and I’m excited to see what he has in store. Ice Cream Man is an amazing doc and I’ve been loving all the docs he’s done for smaller or forgotten YouTubers (besides that fat pus man sam Hyde)
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May 28, 2023 21:55
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charlie's response really is so weirdly off-base. ian outright says basically "i relied on people to be able to pick up and read my intentions, but i became uncomfortable when i saw that there were people who couldn't, so i wanna finally say that poo poo was bad and dumb and there's a reason i stopped doing it, sorry to everyone who caught strays" and charlie just is like "well he didn't mean to be racist sooooo why's he apologizing???" e: also 'charlie and the hot take factory' is a great video title
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May 28, 2023 22:08
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Charlie's response only makes sense if you put it through the lens of him, or those in his orbit, being made uncomfortable with the implications of creators having to reckon with content put out in the past. That's his issue, less anything about the specifics of Ian's situation at all.
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May 28, 2023 22:41
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Shinji2015 posted:I can't speak to how toxic the DBD community is since I've never had any interest in it, but yeah, it is. My mom watches this one CoD player who I'm convinced hates CoD because he never looks like he's having fun playing Warzone, he hates Activision-Blizzard and refuses to give them money, but he has thousands of viewers watching his streams and he recently had a kid, so he keeps playing it. Way my mom tells me, he talks about how much he likes PUBG and Halo but never streams them, which makes me think that he tried to and his numbers tanked I'm genuinely curious, why is your mom watching Call of Duty streamers? From your regdate it seems like she'd be a few decades off from the type of person who watches CoD streams.
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May 28, 2023 22:45
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And then he made another video where he tries to reiterate on how he was actually praising of his growth and that the critics were just being mighty unfair to him. Which I don't know, if he switched off his Troom Troom Narrator demeanor for a single video, this point could have flown better, if it actually existed. He frames Idubbz's change as more of being bored with his previous work + a weird attempt at rebranding himself and tries to pin it to his own existence and not let's say, him having a nasty moral breakthrough that was sparked by both meeting fans and how the general reaction to his current wife. SomeOrdinaryGamers's Muta also made a response to this and ... surprise, despite having a more conservative view, he bothers to actually GET to the main issue as to why Idubbz's bothered to have this response, and his support is framed in a "I honestly hope you actually keep to this, since its such a daring move, and not just some sort of rebranding to gather a more modern audience". Better response to their audience, no weird condenscension to the viewer, and actually bothered to wait a day or two before running to the camera to freestyle a take. Kunster fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 28, 2023 |
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May 28, 2023 22:46
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Charlie was better when he was just doing silly swears over winnie the pooh's home run derby. I remember him starting to comment on youtube videos of stupid people and then i guess he just fell into the awful hole that just talks about youtube people getting mad all the time
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May 28, 2023 22:50
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