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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? They jack off to cartoons but are also racist op
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May 29, 2023 06:37
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I'm pretty sure he's right wing, actually
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May 29, 2023 06:44
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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? You have Jewish fascists helping the GOP. You had Milo. The history of fascism is full of fascists who were from groups marked for extermination who, in their hubris and idiocy, convinced themselves that they were different because they were the protags of reality and that they would, somehow, be spared the purge after the fascists won.
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May 29, 2023 06:50
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Not even the original fascist in-groups are safe since fascism needs to turn inward for new enemies once the external enemies have been dealt with, either literally or within their own fiction.
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May 29, 2023 06:56
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lmao remember when Milo got hacked and one of his passwords was LongKnives1488 they are well aware of what happened to gay nazis, but somehow think that their contribution to the cause will earn them more leniency than the founder of the Sturmabteilung got
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May 29, 2023 07:01
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Mr Scumbag posted:Not even the original fascist in-groups are safe since fascism needs to turn inward for new enemies once the external enemies have been dealt with, either literally or within their own fiction. Correct. Fascism is not an ideology in the traditional sense. It's more akin to a mental illness or aberrant personality type. It's my contention that most fascists in history as people would generally use the term were not, they were just extreme conservatives. I think America is somewhat unique in that most of our fascists are actually fascists. Fascism, to me, is what happens when conservatives get so extreme that they start confusing the map and the territory. Violence and terror cease to be the first and best means of accomplishing goals, and instead become the goals themselves. Fascism is, in its simplest terms "I like hurting people and believe violence is an ends unto itself." Conservatives already disdain reason and introspection as weakness, but fascists openly and proudly deny reality as part of performative fascism. Any and all attempts to understand fascism from a reason-based standpoint are doomed to failure because it's literally akin to trying to reasonably parse the delusions of a person with severe untreated mental illness. "Violence is an ends" is not something a sane person can really parse, and it's the loving starting point.
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May 29, 2023 07:04
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Kevin DuBrow posted:This was in the replies to the quote Musk posted. This just goes to show that for the true sycophants it'll be easy to replace musk with a generative AI model.
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May 29, 2023 07:07
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Tea Party Crasher posted:This just goes to show that for the true sycophants it'll be easy to replace musk with a generative AI model. Few, if anybody, like Musk. Just like with Trump. They like that he acts like they act and so they can live vicariously through them. His success is their success. Plus, especially in Trump's case, he hurts the people they want destroyed. Remember when Trump got booed at one of his rallies for encouraging vaccines and taking credit for them? The moment the current fascist idol ceases to behave sufficiently like his base, they will drop him and move on to some other ghoul.
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May 29, 2023 07:10
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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? Same way a gay person who's not a furry becomes a right-wing rear end in a top hat? If you're gay, you're gay, that's a neurological fact, so that part is kind of immutable, but being a right wing rear end in a top hat is a learned behavior and politics often trumps biology and neurology. See Caitlyn Jenner, coming out as trans didn't do a thing to dislodge any of her lifelong held lovely political beliefs. Or people like Scott Pressler, who's probably the gayest person I've ever seen that wasn't a cartoon stereotype who has made it his life's work to elect people who would put him up against a wall and drill a bullet clean through his head if they could get away with it purely because he wants to pay less taxes and he thinks they'll accept him as one of "the good ones" if he helps them get into power. tl;dr: delusion. A lot of self-deceiving mental gymnastics.
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May 29, 2023 07:23
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It’s because of pro trump stuff being slipped into sissy hypno porn
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May 29, 2023 07:25
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Ziv Zulander posted:It’s because of pro trump stuff being slipped into sissy hypno porn This is why I only watch butch hypno porn.
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May 29, 2023 07:36
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This is why I only watch butch hypno porn. That's just a Carl's Jr commercial on repeat
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May 29, 2023 07:50
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theres always talk that these types think they'll be accepted as "one of the good ones" if the takeover happens, but is that even true? Do they even think that far ahead? Its tough to imagine the headspace some of these people are in
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May 29, 2023 07:57
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Renreeja posted:theres always talk that these types think they'll be accepted as "one of the good ones" if the takeover happens, but is that even true? Do they even think that far ahead? Its tough to imagine the headspace some of these people are in historically jews tried to align themselves with the nazis but that didn't last very long https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ellen-feldman-nazi-germany "In April 1940, the directive came down to purge the military of all Jewish blood. Jews and part-Jews—Mischlinge to the Nazis, Mampe among themselves (after a cocktail popular in Berlin at the time that was half-sweet and half-bitter) were told to turn themselves in." another popular one is buck angel, a ftm transman and a pornstar. he goes out of his way to refer to himself as the outdated "transsexual" term and says it that way to distance himself from "trans" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVCw97P-o7I
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May 29, 2023 08:02
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Correct. fascism isn't delusional, fascism is about power that's why it usually appears when people are afraid they may lose power, to minorities or socialists. they seize power and rhen take every last bit of it because they're so afraid of losing it they've decided no more sharing at all violence and killing is used because it's effective at increasing power or removing threats to it the ideological part is all nonsense every time but there is a logic to it, it's a strictly functional one, they'll use violence if it works, they'll use anything if it works they always infight because fascism isn't an ideology with like, views or beliefs. it's a shared hunger for power and viewing all forms of power as zero sum the only time you don't attack something you think you can defeat is if there's a better target first, they're stronger than you or can help fighting another enemy first. you can look at every fascist state or group and they've all followed those rules domestically and internationally, externally and internally you also don't have to be a conservative. fascist groups & members increasingly conservative over time but fascism can draw in all kinds at the edges, it's got a deeeeeep recruiting track these days in the u.s., they're going after kids in fortnite, roblox, Minecraft w/ memes and poo poo that ain't straight up nazi kkk stuff but adjacent and then that scenes next to the groypers and so on its hella creepy tbh
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May 29, 2023 08:03
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It's important to note that Milo never got cancelled, or abandoned. He got *deplatformed* and it's important to remember that. Once he lost his Twitter account, which was massive and growing fast, he lost all utility to the right. He had no real traction or leverage anywhere else, and wasn't able to create any traction of leverage elsewhere once his Twitter account got nuked. Sure, there were other little things that helped drag him down as well, but with his Twitter active he could have gish galloped his way through all of it. Deplatforming works, and Milo proves it.
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May 29, 2023 08:08
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Renreeja posted:theres always talk that these types think they'll be accepted as "one of the good ones" if the takeover happens, but is that even true? Do they even think that far ahead? Its tough to imagine the headspace some of these people are in Pretty sure someone like milo would just thinks of it as scamming them for an easy pay check. Just thinking of the world as being full of scammers and people getting scammed so why not be the former, and nothing more than that. Ideology and strong beliefs and what not only being held by idiots. If nothing in the world matters sure help the nazis, end of the day who cares, not going to change anything I get to fund my lifestyle whatever. Like there's penty of people who latch on to nazis even though their hated by that ideology for different reasons -particular when/where ever there's no money around for it- but with the alt right money train that was happening for a while, think there was a few of those sorts around. With just conservative groups being the token representative of a minority group far more often seems to be something that can be cashed in on.
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May 29, 2023 08:10
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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? I asked a Gay Furry I know and basically it came down to, that he gets off having "daddy" telling him what to do and self shame of being a gay femboy. So basically a shame and submission fetish.
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May 29, 2023 08:27
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I saw gay furry once on diners drive ins and dives
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May 29, 2023 08:29
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1657106269432582144?s=20 An older tweet, but it got missed that elom is there cry laugh emojiing at Rowling's embracing of her villain arc. Because of course he is.
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May 29, 2023 09:06
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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? Sadly, some gay men - especially white gay men - are absolutely loving horrible when it comes to pulling the ladder up behind them.
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May 29, 2023 09:21
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It’s seriously the hypno sissy porn. It’s all poisoned with right wing garbage these days
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May 29, 2023 09:28
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Furries are infantile idiots with a lot of spending money and most of their cultural intake are cartoons and memes
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May 29, 2023 09:29
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Sadly, some gay men - especially white gay men - are absolutely loving horrible when it comes to pulling the ladder up behind them. In the UK at least, 40 year old white gay men are currently one of the biggest groups in organised online transphobia. The gays love the attention, and get to be bitchy misogynists yelling at trans-inclusive women while being patted on the head by TERFs for their defence of women's rights. It's the worst kind of performative and self-destructive case of "pick-me" attention seeking for social media likes.
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May 29, 2023 09:43
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The "can't criticise kids with cancer as a political absurdity" is actually pretty funny But coming from the hand of Elon it's of course unclear if he was trying to make some weird racist point about minority groups or the (((elites))) I can imagine a well written comedy routine about it, but Elon just fuckin broken clocked his way into a kinda funny idea (if executed well)
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May 29, 2023 09:47
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Parkingtigers posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1657106269432582144?s=20 god she is such a disgusting piece of poo poo.
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May 29, 2023 09:48
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Well the biggest reason for that gay furry boy being a right wing shithead is right there in the tweet actually. He's Dutch.
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May 29, 2023 09:56
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Ziv Zulander posted:It’s seriously the hypno sissy porn. It’s all poisoned with right wing garbage these days
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May 29, 2023 10:04
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Parkingtigers posted:In the UK at least, 40 year old white gay men are currently one of the biggest groups in organised online transphobia. The gays love the attention, and get to be bitchy misogynists yelling at trans-inclusive women while being patted on the head by TERFs for their defence of women's rights. It's the worst kind of performative and self-destructive case of "pick-me" attention seeking for social media likes. Yeah, I know of at least two gay men who are transphobic pieces of poo poo. One of them doesn’t like bisexuals either because he thinks they’re just unwilling to admit that they’re gay and holding on to the other half of their sexual preference as some type of social acceptance or something. Completely unable to understand other people in slightly different circumstances- both conservative, of course, even though one hangs in a very Liberal crowd and would likely lose their friends and career if their colleagues found out half the poo poo they actually believe.
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May 29, 2023 10:15
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I mean to be generous to some of the more quietly bigoted gay folks and whatnot, I think some of it is what you just have always historically seen where a minority tries to help obtain or secure its rights by contrasting itself to some other, even more detested, minority group. Like how in many ways the history of racism in the US can be summed up sort of "I may be Irish, but at least I'm not black!" "I may be Italian, but at least I'm not Irish!" etc etc. "I may be gay, but at least I'm not trans!" is the modern reflection of that. Of course it's morally wrong and also practically wrong as well, as it's predicated on the absurd and incorrect assumption that the hate stops with one group and wont move on to the next. That somehow the bigots will be satisfied once transpeople have been wiped off the face of the Earth and that gay folks aren't up on the chopping block after that. I mean, hell, it's even dumber with queer issues than racial ones since yeah, the Right tends to conflate it all anyway. Like just look at media even from the early aughts; homosexuality and transexuality are in many ways interchangeable where offensive comedy is concerned.
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May 29, 2023 10:21
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Parkingtigers posted:https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1657106269432582144?s=20 Why are there so many real-life villain arcs but so few real-life redemption arcs? I can’t actually even think of a real redemption story despite how prevalent they are in fiction/myth.
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May 29, 2023 10:56
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Halisnacks posted:Why are there so many real-life villain arcs but so few real-life redemption arcs? I can’t actually even think of a real redemption story despite how prevalent they are in fiction/myth. if you turn it backwards oj simpson has a pretty strong redemption arc. those naked gun movies really turned his image around!
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May 29, 2023 11:01
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Jestery posted:The "can't criticise kids with cancer as a political absurdity" is actually pretty funny He’s made the “funny” point by posting a neo-Nazi quote, then again after having that pointed out to him. Is it really unclear?
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May 29, 2023 11:04
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Renreeja posted:theres always talk that these types think they'll be accepted as "one of the good ones" if the takeover happens, but is that even true? Do they even think that far ahead? Its tough to imagine the headspace some of these people are in you're thinking of the crazies. A decent majority of right leaning/etc people are only that way because they've never critically thought about their beliefs, and the sum total of their political opinions is basically word for word what some 'trusted' authority figure has told them is the correct interpretation. It's a common conservative line to say 'I don't hate gays, I just hate X' because to them, they genuinely believe that, because they genuinely think there is some Perfidious Other, the horrible no-good purple haired LGBTQIA+ who wants to make all children trans and exterminate the white race. And that all the other gays are just regular ol' people like you and me who just want to find a nice husband and settle down in a comfortable middle class suburban lifestyle. They don't care to for whatever reason to re-examine whatever nonexistent line of evidence led them to believing that, they just were fed it and moved on with their lives. they're not even aware of any ideas of Overton Windows or w/e, that that line of thinking is prepping them to accept further and further hatred of non-cis white Christian individuals. it's just what they think is the Correct Opinion and that's the reality conservative LGBT folks live in. to them, they've never genuinely experienced or witnessed any kind of actual hatred that came about as the result of their sexual/gender identity, it's always been people talking about the Perfidious Other. and they probably have all kinds of shitlord alt right friends they play games with, who accept them as one of the bunch, and there maybe is a little bit more rizzing as a result of them being gay/etc but it's all excused because what are friends if not to constantly give each other poo poo. there's no 'oh no i must Act Like This to be accepted', it's 'why would i ever not act like that in the first place, what do you think i am, some purple haired SJW? gently caress off'. I said it in my last post, but really. People are inherently hypocritical in their beliefs and trying to interpret any kind of consistency in their opinions will just put you further from understanding how they operate.
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May 29, 2023 11:37
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:He’s made the “funny” point by posting a neo-Nazi quote, then again after having that pointed out to him. Is it really unclear? I am not handing it to elon just pointing out that what ever potential humor he might have been able to squeeze out the premise was just obliterated by his oeuvre and delivery
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May 29, 2023 11:41
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Renreeja posted:theres always talk that these types think they'll be accepted as "one of the good ones" if the takeover happens, but is that even true? Do they even think that far ahead? Its tough to imagine the headspace some of these people are in look at suella braverman, it's honestly a real mindfuck
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May 29, 2023 11:43
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TulliusCicero posted:Can someone explain to me how someone becomes a gay right wing furry? In Richard J. Evans' books about the rise and fall of the Nazis he makes note of some pro-Nazi Jewish people in Germany pre-1933. It turns out that if you hate leftists/progressives, fascism starts looking pretty appealing as nobody is more serious about ending the influence if leftists than fascists. It won't work out for the alt-right furries, either.
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May 29, 2023 11:51
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Lol he is such a little dipshit
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May 29, 2023 12:02
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Ziv Zulander posted:It’s seriously the hypno sissy porn. It’s all poisoned with right wing garbage these days Sorry about your fetish, sir
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Elon Musk is a twerp. It's the only word that describes him perfectly. He's a petulant little twerp. He's similar to Trump and Rowling but like he's the only one who's a twerp.
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