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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Slow News Day posted:

The pipeline poo poo sucks, but overall this is a big victory for Dems. The funniest bit, if true:

you’re an idiot

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
freezing spending during the highest inflation since carter is not in fact, “a big win”

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
I'm a little confused how the debt ceiling is both a fixed amount of money that could run out at any time and also you can delay it by years no problem. the writers need to try a little harder if they want me to believe their kayfabe.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

lmao: "Slight funding boosts for the military, veterans affairs" = increases of 10.5 percent.

and lol at buying into the lib bullshit that bc Dark Brandon allowed homeless people to go on snap so he's actually expanding snap instead of restricting it.

you can always depend on the wapo to turn blood into victory wine.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

RealityWarCriminal posted:

I'm a little confused how the debt ceiling is both a fixed amount of money that could run out at any time and also you can delay it by years no problem. the writers need to try a little harder if they want me to believe their kayfabe.

because the law is written as “the debt limit is raised 1.5 trillion or until X date, whichever comes first”

cool av
Mar 2, 2013

Money for the money cops! Payments for the debt loans!

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

RealityWarCriminal posted:

I'm a little confused how the debt ceiling is both a fixed amount of money that could run out at any time and also you can delay it by years no problem. the writers need to try a little harder if they want me to believe their kayfabe.

The modern debt ceiling was created during FDR's administration because of austerity freaks in Congress - hth.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

this instance is a good example of the intellectual laziness I mentioned, bc people are so desperate to score even the perception of political points that they reflexively support anything that's been opposed by the "other side."

so you get slow news day drinking victory wine bc the wapo said that's what it is--not blood--even though the news outlets are just faithfully repeating the bullet points that the WH has issued.

ACTUALLY, IT'S A GOOD THING WE LOST 20 SEATS IN THE U.S. HOUSE BECAUSE IT COULD'VE BEEN 50 SEATS + THE SENATE!

the media are the massage.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

lmao: "Slight funding boosts for the military, veterans affairs" = increases of 10.5 percent.

The writing is a big vague, but I think it's a slight increase compared to what was on Biden's own budget.

Willa Rogers posted:

this instance is a good example of the intellectual laziness I mentioned, bc people are so desperate to score even the perception of political points that they reflexively support anything that's been opposed by the "other side."

so you get slow news day drinking victory wine bc the wapo said that's what it is--not blood--even though the news outlets are just faithfully repeating the bullet points that the WH has issued.

ACTUALLY, IT'S A GOOD THING WE LOST 20 SEATS IN THE U.S. HOUSE BECAUSE IT COULD'VE BEEN 50 SEATS + THE SENATE!

the media are the massage.

The important thing about deals like this is that nobody is ever going to come out happy. Especially not accelerationists who had been rooting for a default like unhinged maniacs.

In any case, we will see what the CBO analysis says about the actual impact of the legislation.

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fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1662773851200036865?s=20

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
the managed decline of living standards will continue

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.
I do love how reliably Republicans who come in clamoring for budget cuts are happy to get military budget increases instead.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Slow News Day posted:

The pipeline poo poo sucks, but

eat poo poo

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Koirhor posted:

the managed decline of living standards will continue

It's wild to me how well it seems to work on normal liberals, who will twist themselves into knots to normalize it

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003



lol this guy can go gently caress himself

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Frosted Flake posted:

It's wild to me how well it seems to work on normal liberals, who will twist themselves into knots to normalize it

A while back I lived in a suburb with a reputation for being liberal, one of the older guys I waited at the bus stop with to head into town every day went into a rant about "the welfare people just hanging around downtown being useless" for some reason and how "they should die if they don't want to work." I told him I grew up on welfare benefits and probably wouldn't have made it to adulthood without them and he said, "you should have died too." Liberals are very cool people

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
that's what you get for not having children

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

why is this piece of poo poo not getting probed every six hours

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Joe Manchin is trash

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Willa Rogers posted:

this instance is a good example of the intellectual laziness I mentioned, bc people are so desperate to score even the perception of political points that they reflexively support anything that's been opposed by the "other side."

so you get slow news day drinking victory wine bc the wapo said that's what it is--not blood--even though the news outlets are just faithfully repeating the bullet points that the WH has issued.

ACTUALLY, IT'S A GOOD THING WE LOST 20 SEATS IN THE U.S. HOUSE BECAUSE IT COULD'VE BEEN 50 SEATS + THE SENATE!

the media are the massage.

I feel like I’ve seen graphs that demonstrate quite clearly as IRS funding drops poor people audits stay p neutral but rich people audits plummet so there’s more than red team vs blue team interest here.

I’d like to say I appreciate paying taxes and I do vote for every local tax increase to help fund the schools or whatever I can but on the same token I’m also well aware my government as a whole is monstrous and the bulk of my dollars are at best just going to line the pockets of the already wealthy and at worst are going to weapons to suppress people both domestically and internationally. It doesn’t really feel like there’s ethically a winning move.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Frosted Flake posted:

It's wild to me how well it seems to work on normal liberals, who will twist themselves into knots to normalize it

because that is what they want. the liberal project across the anglo-sphere since the 1980s has been to be “conservatives but more efficient.” they’re not interested in helping human beings, they just want to balance the budget without cutting military spending so they can claim the “responsible administrators who make the hard choices” mantle

Deadly Ham Sandwich
Aug 19, 2009
Smellrose

Acelerion posted:

If you run out of toothpaste faster you gotta buy more toothpaste

You can brush your teeth without toothpaste. I did that for years before finally seeing a dentist and they noted my teeth were fine. I also don't each much sugar.

But yeah, I think the motivating idea behind shrinking product is you run out faster and need to buy more often.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


Friendly reminder that Paul Krugman admitted to possessing child pornography years ago and never got prosecuted for it.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Raskolnikov38 posted:

because that is what they want. the liberal project across the anglo-sphere since the 1980s has been to be “conservatives but more efficient.” they’re not interested in helping human beings, they just want to balance the budget without cutting military spending so they can claim the “responsible administrators who make the hard choices” mantle

I agree, but I don't understand the cloying, saccharine stuff layered over top where they present it as good and demand that we feel good about it.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Frosted Flake posted:

I agree, but I don't understand the cloying, saccharine stuff layered over top where they present it as good and demand that we feel good about it.

because they have vestigial poor and non-white voters from before the 1980s they have to bamboozle

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Horseshoe theory posted:

Friendly reminder that Paul Krugman admitted to possessing child pornography years ago and never got prosecuted for it.

im pretty sure the story is he got scammed by a cold caller telling him he was in trouble, dummy either way but thats a little less gross

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


lmao, dems.txt: "The new SNAP work requirements are cruel, but"

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

best reply to that krugman bullshit:

https://twitter.com/SueSandersHere/status/1662816180464418817

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



i didn't vote for joe biden

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

I agree, but I don't understand the cloying, saccharine stuff layered over top where they present it as good and demand that we feel good about it.

It's like a father trying to convince a toddler to eat broccoli by pretending it tasted good. "Mmmmm! Yum! This broccoli is great! I love broccoli!"

Except the broccoli is money taken away from poor people.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

PoundSand posted:

I feel like I’ve seen graphs that demonstrate quite clearly as IRS funding drops poor people audits stay p neutral but rich people audits plummet so there’s more than red team vs blue team interest here.

I’d like to say I appreciate paying taxes and I do vote for every local tax increase to help fund the schools or whatever I can but on the same token I’m also well aware my government as a whole is monstrous and the bulk of my dollars are at best just going to line the pockets of the already wealthy and at worst are going to weapons to suppress people both domestically and internationally. It doesn’t really feel like there’s ethically a winning move.

audits drop across all income levels, but more so for the wealthy. But projections of increased revenue based on no. of IRS personnel are just guesses, and rather than passing any sort of meaningful & equitable tax reform, dems are just slinging more money for money cops on the wish & prayer that richies won't use highly paid professionals & existing tax law to continue to evade taxes & shield their income.

it's a substitute for policy: it's window-dressing & wishcrafting & nerds trying to make their spreadsheets say things that their bosses want to hear. I understand why libs buy into it with their faith-based politics but leftists need to be more critical in their analyses than "chuds hate it" or "it's good, actually, to sic the money cops on my enemies bc even if it's kayfabe it makes me feel like something is being done about jeff bezos not paying any taxes."

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Willa Rogers posted:

oh, I understand it all right, and even consider increased funding of the IRS good for some things, like modernization of computer systems & enhanced customer service.

what I don't understand is the intellectual laziness of declaring something good bc "chuds hate it" or "libertarians love it," or shruggin off the history .ry of the IRS having been used as a political cudgel against political enemies.

I also don't understand the kind of reflexive & privileged assumption that anyone can get enough money to survive through declared income, and if someone's being paid under the table then they're being exploited, even if it's at their own request so that they aren't deported or lose their healthcare or housing.

as I've said, in a functional society & equitable economy these issues wouldn't exist, but we don't have a functional society so people do what they have to in order to survive.

See this is where you get yourself into these arguments. They can't demand something they've been coerced into demanding. You saying it this way suggests the exploited are complicit and these fine White Knights were called to arms. Rephrase it without the blameshifting and you'll be applauded.

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



Rectal Death Adept posted:

Deep brown color. Aroma of rich dark poo poo. Sweet corn kernels. Ripe rear end. Dense.

This is a poo poo post. It has been building for 2 hours. It is a 2023 vintage. It is mid-tier at best. 5 points out of 100.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015



I saw this reply earlier and I genuinely don’t understand what the problem is. Food stamps are obviously insufficient, but this doesn’t reduce the benefits, right? It just requires childless, housed, and able-bodied persons between the ages of fifty and fifty-five to work or volunteer twenty hours a week before they can receive their benefits?

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

The Kingfish posted:

I saw this reply earlier and I genuinely don’t understand what the problem is. Food stamps are obviously insufficient, but this doesn’t reduce the benefits, right? It just requires childless, housed, and able-bodied persons between the ages of fifty and fifty-five to work or volunteer twenty hours a week before they can receive their benefits?

"Dance for me, peasant, dance!" - The Kingfish

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy
"it was already garbage, and now its worse, but its only somewhat worse and only for a small portion of people so that's a win" -dems

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Only slightly worse things are possible.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

The idea that less funding for the IRS will result in more work being done by the IRS is not how money or labor works.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


who the gently caress is eligible for food stamps, not disabled, not homeless, doesn’t have kids, and is working less twenty hours a week? get a job.

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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

anonumos posted:

See this is where you get yourself into these arguments. They can't demand something they've been coerced into demanding. You saying it this way suggests the exploited are complicit and these fine White Knights were called to arms. Rephrase it without the blameshifting and you'll be applauded.

I've stated at least a half-dozen times that these instances are bc of our hosed-up country & its inequitable taxation, and that people are forced to resort to undeclared income in order to survive.

I'm not blameshifting; I'm pointing out the facile (and privileged) lib tropes that ignore economic realities in this shithole of a country.

I could (and have) very well turned around & called out the blameshifting that comes with libs thinking that socioeconomic inequalities will be solved by hiring more money cops bc passing laws that are more equitable makes their donors cry.

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