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frumpykvetchbot posted:https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/28/europe/lukashenko-nuclear-weapons-belarus-russia-intl-hnk/index.html Is this how that Jeff guy got on the nuke operator list?
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May 30, 2023 05:15
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1663399270446256128 Oh no, anyway.
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May 30, 2023 05:25
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https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/europes-gas-traders-watch-for-sub-zero-price-in-summer-glut Europe's Gas Traders Watch for Sub-Zero Price in Summer Glut quote:(Bloomberg) — Some European short-term natural gas prices could briefly dip below zero this summer if sluggish demand doesn’t catch up with a growing supply glut. This is good for Russiacoin
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May 30, 2023 05:32
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Nooner posted:I wonder what would happen if the Russians just went home? They'd be back in a couple of years to try again.
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May 30, 2023 05:39
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Tunicate posted:https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/europes-gas-traders-watch-for-sub-zero-price-in-summer-glut Do most people in Europe use gas for cooking?
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May 30, 2023 05:44
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Lammasu posted:Do most people in Europe use gas for cooking? Cooking is negligible compared to heating and electricity generation. It's a real mixed bag across Europe with natural gas going into people's domiciles.
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May 30, 2023 05:46
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spankmeister posted:They'd be back in a couple of years to try again. I doubt they'll do that when Ukrain has full NATO membership.
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May 30, 2023 07:00
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I got two things to say, so hear me out. 1) Make ALL nukes, regardless of current location, part of NATO. Launch one, anywhere at anyone, it's NATO, Article 5 happens and that's it. 2) If King Kong plopped down a dirigible-sized dooker in the middle of Red Square it would still not be as big of a piece of poo poo as Putin.
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May 30, 2023 07:51
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:I got two things to say, so hear me out. 
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May 30, 2023 07:54
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Those drones over Moscow look like tandem wing designs with a small wing in the nose and a big one in the back. All the cool 1930's designs are back! First the Shahed flying wing and now the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_M.35_Libellula or possibly https://crimsonskies.fandom.com/wiki/Hughes_P21-J_Devastator
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May 30, 2023 08:34
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All of that impotent howling about unfair "terrorist drone attacks on Moscow" breaks my loving mind. My brother in Satan, you have been launching regular massive drone attacks against civilian infrastructure in Kyiv for over a year now
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May 30, 2023 09:28
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Could this be a false flag operation to justify full mobilization?
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May 30, 2023 09:34
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Monstaland posted:Could this be a false flag operation to justify full mobilization? I think you'd need more than a broken window and delayed traffic for that. More likely it's to cause Russia to redirect air-defence resources.
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May 30, 2023 09:36
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GABA ghoul posted:All of that impotent howling about unfair "terrorist drone attacks on Moscow" breaks my loving mind. My brother in Satan, you have been launching regular massive drone attacks against civilian infrastructure in Kyiv for over a year now It’s all the more more perplexing since all tankie talking points are based on extreme revanchism - ei. Poland being lovely in the 30’s justified the soviet-nazi collaboration in ‘39, NATO intervening in the Balkans and Iraq is justification for Russia invading Ukraine, etc.
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May 30, 2023 09:37
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I'd imagine these drone attacks are unaffiliated or at least not Ukrainian military drones. If the goal is to somewhat terrorize the Russian population, then that falls in line with how oppressed peoples have been fighting back the last 40 years or so. Russia and the US have already dealt with legitimate terrorist attacks in response to their military 'interventions' and I'd imagine Russia will pay for this similarly with respect to these kinds of attacks, especially since nowadays it's easy enough to strap explosives to a drone.
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May 30, 2023 09:57
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Monstaland posted:Could this be a false flag operation to justify full mobilization? If a drone blowing up over the Kremlin didn't trigger a mobilization, this won't The mobilization isn't happening because there's nothing to equip people with
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May 30, 2023 10:00
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Pontificating rear end posted:I'd imagine these drone attacks are unaffiliated or at least not Ukrainian military drones. If the goal is to somewhat terrorize the Russian population, then that falls in line with how oppressed peoples have been fighting back the last 40 years or so. Russia and the US have already dealt with legitimate terrorist attacks in response to their military 'interventions' and I'd imagine Russia will pay for this similarly with respect to these kinds of attacks, especially since nowadays it's easy enough to strap explosives to a drone. Uh the photos of the drones show military drones There's no organized force in Russia sending drones to attack Moscow from inside, especially after Ukraine promised revenge for the huge rocket/drone attacks, what the hell
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May 30, 2023 10:03
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Alrite, maybe that applies more to the other drone attack
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May 30, 2023 10:17
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Somaen posted:If a drone blowing up over the Kremlin didn't trigger a mobilization, this won't The mobilisation most likely isn't happening because it's incredibly politically risky to get a bunch of people who might not like you much, give them a reason to really hate you, and then give them a gun. That's why they've been trying to round up 400,000 volunteers, using more conscripts is just too much risk.
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May 30, 2023 10:20
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Monstaland posted:Could this be a false flag operation to justify full mobilization? Russia would have blown up some apartment buildings, not just lightly scuffed them.
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May 30, 2023 10:25
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GABA ghoul posted:All of that impotent howling about unfair "terrorist drone attacks on Moscow" breaks my loving mind. What have these drones in Moscow hit?
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May 30, 2023 10:38
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beer_war posted:Russia would have blown up some apartment buildings, not just lightly scuffed them.
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May 30, 2023 10:43
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GABA ghoul posted:All of that impotent howling about unfair "terrorist drone attacks on Moscow" breaks my loving mind. My brother in Satan, you have been launching regular massive drone attacks against civilian infrastructure in Kyiv for over a year now Moral and tactical error.
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May 30, 2023 10:44
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CSM posted:Yes, but it still doesn't excuse Ukraine doing the same thing. Ukraine has suffered a longer terror bombing campaign than England did with the blitz.
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May 30, 2023 11:18
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ded posted:Ukraine has suffered a longer terror bombing campaign than England did with the blitz. At least now they can now make "Keep Calm and Carry On" posters instead of dealing with festering social issues once they win.
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May 30, 2023 11:20
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Disco Pope posted:At least now they can now make "Keep Calm and Carry On" posters instead of dealing with festering social issues once they win. tankies: "Ugh more CRINGE memes from Ukraine? loving give them more money libs" *laughs at dead children*
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May 30, 2023 11:21
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Pontificating rear end posted:I'd imagine these drone attacks are unaffiliated or at least not Ukrainian military drones. If the goal is to somewhat terrorize the Russian population, then that falls in line with how oppressed peoples have been fighting back the last 40 years or so. Russia and the US have already dealt with legitimate terrorist attacks in response to their military 'interventions' and I'd imagine Russia will pay for this similarly with respect to these kinds of attacks, especially since nowadays it's easy enough to strap explosives to a drone. Budanov literally stated yesterday they would retaliate for attacks on Kyiv
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May 30, 2023 11:22
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Somaen posted:Uh the photos of the drones show military drones No they’re not, they’re weird backwards-looking civilian drone bodies This is just dumb poo poo to justify bombing Kyiv retroactively, and also to record PR shots that look! Pantsir just as good as Patriot!
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May 30, 2023 11:26
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Alan Smithee posted:tankies: "Ugh more CRINGE memes from Ukraine? loving give them more money libs" Just for clarity, I was giving Britain poo poo for the way the Blitz manifested in its national-psyche, not trying to make some kind of Tankie point! (Not that you were necessarily saying I was!)
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May 30, 2023 11:31
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CSM posted:tactical error. Doesn't appear to be the case so far. It keeps valuable air defense equipment away from the front for a comparatively small price and Russia has no means of retaliation (nothing they haven't been doing already). There is also the whole psychological warfare aspect of it. What got the US out of Afghanistan was the public realizing that their goals in the conflict are no longer achievable, no matter how long they stay. It's probably the same thing that will get Russia out of Ukraine. Once the realization sets in that this stupid colonial adventure is unwinnable and also comes at a very high cost, Russia might finally be willing to negotiate. The public has been bombarded for a year with bullshit about 10 million Nazis soldiers and hundreds of thousands of tanks and HIMARS being destroyed every day, but fact is Ukraine was frantically making Molotov cocktails and building tank barriers in the streets of Kyiv a year ago and now they are launching attacks on Moscow. Even the dumbest vatnik watching state TV all day gotta realize that things are actually unwrapping and not wrapping up for the Empire.
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May 30, 2023 11:36
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Most of the drones were sighted and shot over elite suburbs, so if anything, those attacks would be welcomed if they hit oligarch/officials luxury villas.
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May 30, 2023 11:40
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GABA ghoul posted:Doesn't appear to be the case so far. It keeps valuable air defense equipment away from the front for a comparatively small price and Russia has no means of retaliation (nothing they haven't been doing already). The psychological warfare aspect might work in Russia's favour, as it can galvanize Russia's population to be more pro war. Similar to how Russia's civilian bombing campaign hasn't diminished Ukraine's population's morale.
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May 30, 2023 11:43
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gay picnic defence posted:The mobilisation most likely isn't happening because it's incredibly politically risky to get a bunch of people who might not like you much, give them a reason to really hate you, and then give them a gun. It's also politically risky to have your front collapse due to a lack of people, showing that you're on your way to losing, which is why the first mobilization happened despite the political risks Victis posted:No they’re not, they’re weird backwards-looking civilian drone bodies Hmm yes the russians staged a false flag attack against the capital city, showing that the military is barely competent to defend it and the war is coming home, embarrassing it horribly, to justify bombing Kyiv, something they had no problem doing before Makes sense, the Ukrainians would never be able to pull off something like that, a few days after Budanov said they will retaliate for the bombing of Kyiv Somaen fucked around with this message at 12:09 on May 30, 2023 |
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May 30, 2023 11:59
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Willo567 posted:Budanov literally stated yesterday they would retaliate for attacks on Kyiv My uncle works in a nuke silo, and doesnt talk about work much but holy moly do those guys all have it out for you man. What the hell did you do to them??
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May 30, 2023 12:03
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Willo567 posted:Budanov literally stated yesterday they would retaliate for attacks on Kyiv I expected him to say "these strikes are cool, thanks, Russia, surrender letter is in the post" so I was quite surprised when instead they were mad and promised retaliation.
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May 30, 2023 12:08
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Disco Pope posted:I expected him to say "these strikes are cool, thanks, Russia, surrender letter is in the post" so I was quite surprised when instead they were mad and promised retaliation. I didn't say any of that
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May 30, 2023 12:22
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GABA ghoul posted:Doesn't appear to be the case so far. It keeps valuable air defense equipment away from the front for a comparatively small price and Russia has no means of retaliation (nothing they haven't been doing already). Until they accidentally fly one into an orphanage or something and turn an otherwise apathetic Russian population hard against them. Last thing they want to do is overstep and make the continuation of the war a popular cause in Russia.
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May 30, 2023 12:38
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Willo567 posted:I didn't say any of that I was referring to Budanov.
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May 30, 2023 12:47
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gay picnic defence posted:Until they accidentally fly one into an orphanage or something and turn an otherwise apathetic Russian population hard against them. Last thing they want to do is overstep and make the continuation of the war a popular cause in Russia. But the population seems to be entirely happy to keep this going indefinitely, as long as it doesn't concern them, and there really isn't anything else russia could do. They already attack with everything they have. I don't know what were the intended targets but disrupting russian command and control can be more valuable than taking out a mobik in a trench.
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May 30, 2023 13:00
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Tree Bucket posted:I assume there's at one guy saying things like "maybe we should call off today's preschool bombardment and focus on supply depots and railheads instead" who keeps getting shouted down by all the other officers.
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