Alan Smithee posted:

Tankies: “no war but class war!”

https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1663538213284356096?s=46&t=lbKxPpxJyMeDN0i-nFAg4A

Tankies: “war bad”

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WHO records more than 1000 attacks on health care in Ukraine over the past 15 months of full-scale war

WHO has verified more than 1000 attacks on health care in Ukraine since the invasion by the Russian Federation in February last year – the highest number WHO has ever recorded in any humanitarian emergency. This grim milestone yet again highlights the difficult and dangerous circumstances in which the country’s health system operates, and the challenges of providing both routine and emergency health-care services. Attacks hinder access to health care for tens of thousands of people, increasing the risks of illness and death.

The 1004 WHO-verified attacks over the past 15 months of full-scale war have claimed at least 101 lives, including of health workers and patients, and injured many more. They have impacted health providers, supplies, facilities and transport, including ambulances.

WHO defines an attack on health care as “any act of verbal or physical violence, obstruction or threat of violence that interferes with the availability, access and delivery of curative and/or preventive health services during emergencies”. This can range from violence with heavy weapons to psychosocial threats and intimidation that affect access to health care for those in need.

“These attacks threaten the safety and well-being of health workers and undermine care for people living close to conflict areas,” said Dr Jarno Habicht, WHO Representative in Ukraine. “Attacks on health care are a violation of international humanitarian law. They deprive people of the care they need and have wide-ranging, long-term consequences.”

Such attacks rob entire communities of essential health services that are needed to save lives, leading to increased illness and death and deterioration of health systems in the longer term. The psychological effect on patients scared to seek health care, and on health workers unable to provide care in safe and protected environments, are also significant, and will impact the health of the population for long periods of time.

WHO continues to advocate for safe access for the delivery of health-care services, free from violence, threat or fear. This is critical to putting people in need at the centre of the collective humanitarian response.

“The fact that the health system in Ukraine continues to operate amid such circumstances is a testament to the heroic dedication of health-care workers,” continued Dr Habicht. “Despite the challenges posed first by the COVID-19 pandemic and now well over a year of war, Ukraine’s health-care workers remain amazingly strong, brave and patient, day after day, saving lives and providing care to those in need. We stand in solidarity with them and all those working to ensure that everyone in Ukraine has access to the health care they need.”

WHO has been monitoring and responding to health needs in the regions most affected by fighting in the east and south of the country. According to the Health Resources and Services Availability Monitoring System (HeRAMS), health facilities in the most affected areas, including Kherson, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk, have reported facing difficulties due to lack of security and to structural damage. However, a high percentage of health facilities in these regions are functional and accessible, even though they continue to operate only partially due to damage.

“Even as we continue to verify attacks on health care as this relentless war grinds on, we also note that attacks on other civilian infrastructure, especially in the past 6 months, are indirectly impacting the capacity of the health system overall,” explained Dr Habicht. “WHO has so far reached almost 9 million people with support nationwide since 24 February last year. We are stepping up efforts, along with the United Nations and other partners, to access more areas, including regained parts of Ukraine where health needs are among the most acute.”

According to WHO data, significant challenges have been reported in providing specialized services, such as chemotherapy and mammography, due to a lack of staff and medical equipment. Some regions also face difficulties in providing high-skilled childbirth services.

Although primary health-care remains widely available in war-affected regions, health costs have been increasing in the past half-year. Surveys conducted by WHO indicate that nearly a third of the population is finding it difficult to afford certain health services.

zone posted:

Toxic Mental posted:

A lot of people in the western leftist circles have a self-punishment / self-hate fetish in 2023. The George Galloway types. I think it's great that they're so willing to expose themselves online about Ukraine for everyone to see because it's clearly repulsive to people with a normal moral compass. I forget who said it but it was something like it's a way for white western men to co-opt a distorted version of civil rights movements and marginalize themselves mentally. i.e. "No, you can't be the one to blame, WE'RE the one to blame. Your country's crimes pale in comparison to ours", etc.

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Yes, the American Mark 14 torpedoes did. They were developed during the poor inter war period and barely tested. They had numerous issues, including, but not limited to...

- running deeper than they had been set to (ie. just sailing harmlessly under Japanese ships)
- exploding prematurely
- failing to explode at all on contact, leading to submariners listening to clonk sounds as the torpedoes they risked life and limb to fire hit their targets perfectly to absolutely no effect
- ran in a circular pattern, ie. just did a big old loop and then came back to strike the ship that fired it

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

but the Navy intentionally suppressed the reports for ages because they didn't want to spend a ton of money replacing their torpedo arsenal

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Comparatively the Japanese Type 93 torpedo ("Long Lance") was incredibly good.

Data Graham posted:

Maybe he means Ukropia but in EU markets due to trademark issues

zone posted:

Vovan the Bananrian

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Vovan the Bananrian

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Vovan the Bananrian

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Zelensky needs to get tough and level the Kremlin. And bomb Russia today.

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khwarezm posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1663550716236173319
So I'm at best ambivalent towards the attacks on Moscow but its a bit noticeable to me that people like Glen don't ever seem to have any opinion at all about the endless amount of airstrikes carried out by Russians on Ukraine but will say that these attacks that to my knowledge have not actually killed anyone as of now are a dangerous escalation on the way to world war?

The Ukrainians have denied responsibility haven't they? I can't make much sense of the potential positions here, if Ukraine actually is doing it, it would be weird to me that they aren't trumpeting it to their own population as some kind of revenge, but if its some kind of Russian false flag, its weird that they only started doing it now and that they would make it seem like they can't even defend their capital 500 kilometres away from the Ukrainian border.

khwarezm posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1663550716236173319
So I'm at best ambivalent towards the attacks on Moscow but its a bit noticeable to me that people like Glen don't ever seem to have any opinion at all about the endless amount of airstrikes carried out by Russians on Ukraine but will say that these attacks that to my knowledge have not actually killed anyone as of now are a dangerous escalation on the way to world war?

The Ukrainians have denied responsibility haven't they? I can't make much sense of the potential positions here, if Ukraine actually is doing it, it would be weird to me that they aren't trumpeting it to their own population as some kind of revenge, but if its some kind of Russian false flag, its weird that they only started doing it now and that they would make it seem like they can't even defend their capital 500 kilometres away from the Ukrainian border.

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KYIV, UKRAINE—Gazing wistfully at an old framed photo of the 53-year-old American, Ukrainian officials admitted Tuesday that the country had been in shambles ever since Hunter Biden left. “We don’t want your Abrams tanks or your Javelin missiles or your billions of dollars in aid—we just want Hunter back,” said Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, who let out a long sigh as he recalled the halcyon days when President Biden’s son served on the board of energy company Burisma, and all in the nation was prosperous, peaceful, and well. “So goes Hunter Biden, so goes Ukraine. Call me crazy, but I’d give up every last drone in the world if it meant we could have that guy back in the country for just a single day. Hunter, if you’re listening, please come back. You were the glue holding us together. And to be honest, you’re doing pretty bad without us too.” At press time, Zelensky was reportedly attempting to entice Hunter Biden to return by holding up a small bag of cocaine.

khwarezm posted:

The Ukrainians have denied responsibility haven't they? I can't make much sense of the potential positions here, if Ukraine actually is doing it, it would be weird to me that they aren't trumpeting it to their own population as some kind of revenge, but if its some kind of Russian false flag, its weird that they only started doing it now and that they would make it seem like they can't even defend their capital 500 kilometres away from the Ukrainian border.

PC LOAD LETTER posted:

As far as I know that is all correct but this:

Isn't quite correct.

There were actually huge issues getting the problems to occur during testing, due to a half assed and faulty testing set up (torpedo passed under a boat instead of hitting it? Well lets assume it destroyed the boat thanks to our super secret magnetic fuse!!), and it took them a while to figure it out. There were failures with that torpedo involving not only its depth sensor and contact fuse but also the magnetic fuse too. There were 1 or 2 instances where they did a test after complaints about the torpedos and it passed the tests and the reports were ignored as a result of that. At least at first anyways. The Bureau of Ordnance also kept being assholes and trying to deny everything and dragged their feet all the time too didn't help any.

Gradually the complaints kept coming in and getting louder and a more involved study was done to try and replicate the problem but they didn't figure out what was wrong and how to solve it until relatively late in the war. I don't think they even figured out that the depth sensor was faulty until pretty late in 1942 for instance. Wiki says they didn't figure it all out until late 1943 apparently.

mobby_6kl posted:

Glen is such a loving idiot

khwarezm posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1663550716236173319
So I'm at best ambivalent towards the attacks on Moscow but its a bit noticeable to me that people like Glen don't ever seem to have any opinion at all about the endless amount of airstrikes carried out by Russians on Ukraine but will say that these attacks that to my knowledge have not actually killed anyone as of now are a dangerous escalation on the way to world war?

The Ukrainians have denied responsibility haven't they? I can't make much sense of the potential positions here, if Ukraine actually is doing it, it would be weird to me that they aren't trumpeting it to their own population as some kind of revenge, but if its some kind of Russian false flag, its weird that they only started doing it now and that they would make it seem like they can't even defend their capital 500 kilometres away from the Ukrainian border.

TulliusCicero posted:

Just admit you are a Russian asset fuckwad, christ

Toxic Mental posted:

Jesus gently caress, the twitter comments.

You'd think that when these people find themselves on the side of Glenn Greenwald, Ian Miles Cheong, and Marjorie Taylor Green, you might step back and have an "Are we the baddies" moment

tiaz posted:

nah, they find a way to get even more ossified into it. "Look, even these clearly crazy people can see that I'm right!"

TulliusCicero posted:

I've lost track of what woke even is and is not anymore.

khwarezm posted:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1663550716236173319
So I'm at best ambivalent towards the attacks on Moscow but its a bit noticeable to me that people like Glen don't ever seem to have any opinion at all about the endless amount of airstrikes carried out by Russians on Ukraine but will say that these attacks that to my knowledge have not actually killed anyone as of now are a dangerous escalation on the way to world war?

The Ukrainians have denied responsibility haven't they? I can't make much sense of the potential positions here, if Ukraine actually is doing it, it would be weird to me that they aren't trumpeting it to their own population as some kind of revenge, but if its some kind of Russian false flag, its weird that they only started doing it now and that they would make it seem like they can't even defend their capital 500 kilometres away from the Ukrainian border.

Killer robot posted:

One of the most baffling things I remember from the early stages of the war was "Look at this stuff from Kissinger, even he thinks Russia's demands should be met. You libs love Kissinger, right?"

Deki posted:

Also, remember when Russians with Attitude were a frequently linked source for "real" news about the war before they really went off the deep end?

Disco Pope posted:

EDIT: Even accounting for the Tweet he's quoting, what's that premise based on exactly? Yes. Cruise missles being fired at Moscow would be a bad idea. Who is disagreeing?

Deki posted:

One of the most popular guys in the western leftist pro-Russia sphere for awhile was/is a legit fascist pedophile sex tourist. This war has made some strange loving bedfellows. Imagine being a staunch socialist and hooting and hollering for a guy who thinks Pinochet didn't go far enough and originally made his bones trying to sell PUA lessons to incels.

Also, remember when Russians with Attitude were a frequently linked source for "real" news about the war before they really went off the deep end?

TulliusCicero posted:

Is this that Roosh Vi guy?

Disco Pope posted:

...
EDIT: Even accounting for the Tweet he's quoting, what's that premise based on exactly? Yes. Cruise missles being fired at Moscow would be a bad idea. Who is disagreeing?

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

There's nationalist brain and then there's "Well actually libs I think you'll find that Russia won the Russo-Japanese War " nationalist brain.

TulliusCicero posted:

Is this that Roosh Vi guy?

TulliusCicero posted:

Is stopping Russia from doing anything they want WOKE now, including to the supposedly most patriotic Americans?

I've lost track of what woke even is and is not anymore.