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Total: | 48 votes |
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Volte posted:Honestly I don't see a near-future where 25-40% of any jobs are automated by this kind of AI, especially not the computer toucher jobs like programmers, and especially not anything with a mission critical component (and I mean that in the "failure = money lost" sense, not just in the "important pacemaker software" sense). If anything computer toucher jobs are the ones most able to transition into using AI as a tool (i.e. programmers may spend less time writing code and more time getting GPT to write the code) but I'm skeptical about technical jobs being wiped out at this point. At least not because they were wholesale replaced by an LLM that has read 1 billion reddit posts. I appreciate your optimism, and my mind isn't really settled on how the proliferation of AI or LLMs or whatever you want to call them will shake out. I don't even disagree with any of your arguments, really. I just don't think there's much of a line between AI effectively replacing large segments of the workforce versus people with a profit motive who will never stop trying. AI doesn't have to be great, or even that good. It just has to convince someone to replace the cost of human labor, someone who likely has a financial incentive to do so.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:29 |
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 05:42 |
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as long as we're wiping out another million jobs, can we just finally admit that making people work to exist is loving stupid
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:31 |
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Hwurmp posted:as long as we're wiping out another million jobs, can we just finally admit that making people work to exist is loving stupid No disagreements here. Nothing about Capitalism is good.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:32 |
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My kind of job is absolutely going to be among the first on the AI chopping block. Companies are already scaling back tech writing and training in favor of having QA and developers do most of the tech writing (and yes, there's a huge quality hit accompanying this) and live training moving more and more towards e-learnings. The moment AI can create a halfway-passable e-learning in Articulate or something that just needs a quick editing pass to be passable, I'm out of a career.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:32 |
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I said come in! posted:No disagreements here. Nothing about Capitalism is good.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:34 |
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Khanstant posted:they did a study and there is some bias in game writing. sorry, time to give up the games. Skimmed through this, and to summarize: they took a total of 50 rpgs from popular and successful series, half of them "western" the other half "japanese", and implemented something or other to parse the games' English dialogue and track the gender of each speaker if possible. The results: yeah it's what you'd expect but actually a lil' worse. Cool
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:37 |
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Harrow posted:My kind of job is absolutely going to be among the first on the AI chopping block. Companies are already scaling back tech writing and training in favor of having QA and developers do most of the tech writing (and yes, there's a huge quality hit accompanying this) and live training moving more and more towards e-learnings. The moment AI can create a halfway-passable e-learning in Articulate or something that just needs a quick editing pass to be passable, I'm out of a career. I'm a grantwriter and my buddy from another nonprofit said he just used ChatGPT to write the entirety of his last RFP. He was awarded $25,000.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:38 |
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exquisite tea posted:I'm a grantwriter and my buddy from another nonprofit said he just used ChatGPT to write the entirety of his last RFP. He was awarded $25,000. Yyyyup I try not to be too doombrained about it but I think the AI-pocalypse for jobs like ours is closer than most people think.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:41 |
Hopefully one of the benefits to come out of AI is a Universal Basic Income. I mean LOL if it'll ever happen in the current US political climate but I can dream.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:46 |
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To apply slightly more nuance to my previous post, AI is not inherently bad and if I had to guess will probably eventually get used for some incredibly cool and helpful things, making life easier, safer and maybe even more fun to tolerate. Trouble is that comes after the world we currently live in, where the only people with the resources to create iterative learning systems are exactly the type of people who will take the minimum viable products created by those systems and seek only bad solutions.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:47 |
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Harrow posted:Yyyyup i had a grand ol' existential crisis for a couple days when i first popped open stable diffusion and figured out that i could feed it a simple 15-30 minute sketch and get a drawing that would take me 10+ hours to complete in under a minute i'm still honing my craft and enjoy the process of doing art for the sake of doing art, but i'm also being realistic in acknowledging that i will have to at some point integrate the technology into my workflow in order to remain even modestly competitive, and that i'm gonna have to figure out ways to spin these processes into something novel so that i can make a proper living off of it. it kinda sucks, but them's the breaks
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:48 |
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The Good Queen Clitoris posted:Hopefully one of the benefits to come out of AI is a Universal Basic Income. There was a time when UBI was popular among the tech bros who are pushing AI now because, well, people are gonna need money to buy the things you're making, even if you're making them a lot cheaper. If people don't have money, they can't buy things, and if nobody buys things, the people who own the AIs don't get to make money. I feel like that's largely been dropped because people realized they can just blame people for picking the "wrong careers" and say they just need to be "retrained" while getting bailout money from the government.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:51 |
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Harrow posted:There was a time when UBI was popular among the tech bros who are pushing AI now because, well, people are gonna need money to buy the things you're making, even if you're making them a lot cheaper. If people don't have money, they can't buy things, and if nobody buys things, the people who own the AIs don't get to make money. Reduce your carbon foot print by becoming a gas miner in the outer Oort Cloud.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:53 |
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The only thing protecting my career right now is that nonprofit development is still highly relational. The second they invent a ChatGPT interface that can go to suit and tie fundraisers and remember your kids’ birthdays, I’m done for.
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:54 |
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let's see what AI is up to today https://twitter.com/ejdickson/status/1663910215748657153
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:59 |
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exquisite tea posted:The only thing protecting my career right now is that nonprofit development is still highly relational. The second they invent a ChatGPT interface that can go to suit and tie fundraisers and remember your kids’ birthdays, I’m done for. hey charlie brooker: cyrano de bergerac but it's a guy with a chatGPT earpiece. DM me for where to send the check
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# ? May 31, 2023 17:59 |
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The 7th Guest posted:let's see what AI is up to today wow, this ruined my day
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:01 |
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exquisite tea posted:The only thing protecting my career right now is that nonprofit development is still highly relational. That's code for people sending emails at midnight. I'm onto you!!! Signed, an Americorps VISTA alum
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:01 |
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hatty posted:wow, this ruined my day
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:02 |
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the AI evangelists telling people to advocate for UBI are like if oil executives went around telling environmental activists to find a button that turns off the sun. just throwing out impossible non-solutions to distract from their own complicity
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:03 |
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The 7th Guest posted:let's see what AI is up to today lol psycho poo poo
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The 7th Guest posted:let's see what AI is up to today
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hatty posted:wow, this ruined my day
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homeless snail posted:this is just a ripoff of that nft that took holocaust victim pictures and deepfaked them to talk about tolerance The loving what
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:04 |
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Orv posted:The loving what
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:05 |
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for a nominal series of fees I will provide deepfakes of your dead relatives telling you they love and are proud of you, and that they couldn't be happier your dead by daylight streaming career is finally taking off
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:09 |
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The fans of crime are at it again
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:12 |
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Jay Rust posted:Lol lmao how are you liking eu4’s rtwp eu4 is pause with real time, completely different
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:12 |
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Relax Or DIE posted:for a nominal series of fees I will provide deepfakes of your dead relatives telling you they love and are proud of you, and that they couldn't be happier your dead by daylight streaming career is finally taking off
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:22 |
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The Good Queen Clitoris posted:Hopefully one of the benefits to come out of AI is a Universal Basic Income. Lol indeed
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:22 |
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Relax Or DIE posted:for a nominal series of fees I will provide deepfakes of your dead relatives telling you they love and are proud of you, and that they couldn't be happier your dead by daylight streaming career is finally taking off And if they miss their payments, though, they instead get a deep fake of their dead relatives talking about how stupid and cheap they are. 😈
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:26 |
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mutata posted:And if they miss their payments, though, they instead get a deep fake of their dead relatives talking about how stupid and cheap they are. 😈 so the deep fake gets more accurate if you dont pay? idgi
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:28 |
Jay Rust posted:Skimmed through this, and to summarize: they took a total of 50 rpgs from popular and successful series, half of them "western" the other half "japanese", and implemented something or other to parse the games' English dialogue and track the gender of each speaker if possible. The results: yeah it's what you'd expect but actually a lil' worse. Cool I wonder how limited they are by how many games have scripts available. I can't imagine adding a bajillion more games would change the stats very much if at all, Im just thinking I wouldn't know where to start grabbing game scripts.
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:28 |
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hatty posted:so the deep fake gets more accurate if you dont pay? idgi It's genius. Everyone will pay on time.
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:29 |
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drat. i would never have realized that a majority of the lines in Final Fantasy XV were by male characters before reading that
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:31 |
I got to see this live when he opened for Dan Deacon. It was even freakier in person
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:31 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:drat. i would never have realized that a majority of the lines in Final Fantasy XV were by male characters before reading that Apparently ffx-2, the game with 3 female protags, has less female dialogue than male
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:33 |
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The 7th Guest posted:let's see what AI is up to today How many are actually doing this? Whenever I see one of these "get a load of this new and disgusting trend on TikTok" it turns out it is just one single user doing it.
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# ? May 31, 2023 18:53 |
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One is too many imo
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I said come in! posted:How many are actually doing this? Whenever I see one of these "get a load of this new and disgusting trend on TikTok" it turns out it is just one single user doing it. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 31, 2023 |
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