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Max is at an SF6 launch event and showed off some slim hitboxes with Chun and Cammy art that might be made by Razer [edit] It looks like they've got RGB lighting around the edge 
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chumbler posted:F2p needs a few conditions that it's not obvious that fighting games will ever be able to meet, separate even from just the gameplay itself. In no particular order you need everyone you know/big streamers are playing it (i.e., fortnite), good clients outside of the gameplay, very good matchmaking (largely dictated by how big the initial player base is and how well it can be maintained), fairly low time commitment/wasted time (this one is reasonably easy at least), characters people already care about or are interesting enough to draw people in, and a new content and update stream that is far faster than what the vast majority of fighting games have ever done. It doesn't necessarily need to be a balance patch and new character every month or two, but they would need to be cranking out costumes or other cosmetics that people actually want. SF6 is kind of the test case for a lot of those despite being a full price product rather than free dollars, but if it can keep big numbers that will be an indicator for future games. Project L will probably be the next big test of whether the model is feasible. Yeah like you’re saying, I think street fighter is one of the few brands that can guarantee it will meet those points, in part because it is so closely associated with capcom’s brand that they r essentially obligated to ensure it remains supported. i mean I think realistically sf6 probably won’t ever need to be free to play because it’s seemingly managed to build enough trust with an audience who are willing to buy in initially that they aren’t gonna stifle the money spigot unless the cost/loss analysis reallly tilts to an extreme. More realistically, I can imagine them doing something like GTA/Red Dead after a few years and selling the multiplayer as a stand-alone at a slightly reduced rate. Phone stuff I can’t imagine them doing unless success rly forces them to pivot into becoming purely the street fighter company , but if they were, probably pull a nether realm or Nintendo and partner with someone to generate a simplified version of sf that can share assets with the main line. Honestly, in my perfect world, the arcade monetization scheme would still rule supreme and capcom, Namco Bandai, SNK , etc. would all be incentivized to generate multiple games with smaller teams rather than pool people and resources into a single live game. But without a low buy-in and public exhibition spaces that obviously doesn’t rly work. So logically, capcom should soft launch all new fighting games within the virtual sf6 arcade. Or, less dreamily, I hope they’ll do something like a Halloween event where Darkstalkers takes over the little arcade corner that final fight was in in the beta.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:12
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I think they're just gonna do dlc and stuff.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:13
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I think they're just gonna do dlc and stuff. agreed, the people making street fighter are only interested in giving us the best drat game they can, and haven't thought about what happens once it comes out, the battle pass idea was probably a high guy who played fortnite for the first time, and he suggested it to the head of Street fighter and they said "sure, lets try it". Then capcom said, okay, just make sure the game comeso ut and is a drat fine game, the rest is up to you. Soon, in under a day, we'll find out if Capco mwas right...
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Jun 1, 2023 06:23
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They gonna do a lot of dlc and stuff.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:28
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teagone posted:Max is at an SF6 launch event and showed off some slim hitboxes with Chun and Cammy art that might be made by Razer Wow, those almost look tasteful, for a Razer product. Simmons left out again, though. edit: oh wait, he is there, he's just off to the right and cropped. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jun 1, 2023 |
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Jun 1, 2023 06:32
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SyntheticPolygon posted:They gonna do a lot of dlc and stuff. some ppl post on the discussion forum to discuss, while others liike to hear 'good purchase, friend!', in the same sense, some ppl are interested in street fighter because they like to play and think about street fighter, while perhaps others are interested in street fighter because it means ppl will say 'good purchase, friend!'.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:33
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Like I dunno, from my experience that's what capcom does. MH is an enormously successful online multiplayer and those games just always be adding additional costumes or accessories as dlc, its flooded with it. But y'know I also imagine they'll have big fighting game season passes as is basically tradition with major fg releases at this point. I dropped SFV early so maybe i'm mistaken and it was more common for people to get new characters and like costumes or whatever through the in game fight money (and purchases of that) but I was under the impression a lot of the additional content in that was still brought as standard dlc purchases. Like i'm not trying to say "capcom cares about its fans and would never prey on them!" but I think they got their own method of that and it aint gonna follow the formula of your GTAs or other big AAA games. E: I guess i'm just not really expecting SF6 to be a major shift from how Capcom usually approaches this stuff.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:35
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My point was more that the structure of the installs, Proving Ground mode, etc. seem to indicate that they were at least considering the possibility of segmenting the game up when creating these things. i mean maybe not, I agree that DmC, RE, MH,etc. have all had similar stuff in terms of optional early paid unlocks. But I think the distinction is that none of those are live/"forever" games in the same sense as Street Fighter. Monster Hunter is the closest but the relationship of single-player 2 multiplayer is very very different in terms of expectations & playerbase needs. Additionally, relative 2 most things, fighting games remain a relatively 'niche genre' in terms of appealing to ppl outside of the base (with the exception of something lilke smash). That monetization structure influences game design seems inarguable, and with a genre that remains closer to it's arcade roots like fighting games even moreso. Meaning an expensive and large fighting game release is inherently going 2 be driven to a degree by those choices maybe more than, say, Devil May Cry so I think it's worth looking at how they've approached it so far since it influences how the game is, will be, and personalyl i just think it's interesting to muse.
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Jun 1, 2023 06:53
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Uncensored Juri costume definitely looks better that the original SFV version. It's still her worst base costume but at least she isn't wearing several loving layers of latex anymore. That looked extra dumb. Those Marisa and JP alts are so sick. JP base costume is a bit meh but that alt is fantastic.
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Jun 1, 2023 07:19
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Is there a speedrun strategy for unlocking the classic costumes in World Tour as quickly as possible yet?
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Jun 1, 2023 07:29
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Double Bill posted:Is there a speedrun strategy for unlocking the classic costumes in World Tour as quickly as possible yet? Game isn't out yet?
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Unlucky7 posted:Game isn't out yet? Look, the process of speedrunning speedrun strats is a very complicated one, and you can't let the concept of linear time stop you
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Jun 1, 2023 07:35
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Unlucky7 posted:Game isn't out yet? lmao if you havent clipped out of the world to any% obtain the full game
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Jun 1, 2023 07:36
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Unlucky7 posted:Game isn't out yet? Buncha people playing with physical copies already.
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 Casually destroy child. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Jun 1, 2023 |
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Jun 1, 2023 07:59
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Jack Trades posted:
She is clearly giving her love to the child.
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Jun 1, 2023 08:22
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chumbler posted:She is clearly giving her love to the child. Love, delivered several Newtons at a time
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Jun 1, 2023 09:07
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Lmao
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there's a battlepass? edit: sigh. There's reportedly a battlepass. Capcom, between this and the sketchy AF move to hide the existence of Denuvo until after reviews went up, I am rapidly losing enthusiasm. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Jun 1, 2023 |
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Jun 1, 2023 10:39
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One of the unlocks you get from Arcade Mode
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Jun 1, 2023 10:42
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Looking at the unlockable costumes, I do think I actually prefer chun's older looks to her current. That's probably a ton of nostalgia doing some heavy lifting though Of the other mostly originals I think cammy's new costume is the biggest glow up, I'll still unlock the classic one eventually but it's still baffling to me that people complained. Though I guess not that surprising considering the people mostly doing the complaining
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Jun 1, 2023 12:53
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Jps old man back would hurt so much sitting like that on the ground probably.
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Jun 1, 2023 12:56
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Cammy's new costume is godlike but I'm not a fan of her new face. It totally looks like she's just got a botox injection in her lips and I'm not a fan of that. Real hurthling! posted:Jps old man back would hurt so much sitting like that on the ground probably. JP's upper body is loving ripped for an old man though, and some of his normals have him almost doing loving splits. I bet he doesn't have any back problems despite his age.
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Jun 1, 2023 12:57
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Is psycho power a banned substance?
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The Dave posted:Is psycho power a banned substance? Over the counter in Canada
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Jack Trades posted:Cammy's new costume is godlike but I'm not a fan of her new face. Honestly a number of characters have weird faces, it's my biggest complaint with the game's artstyle. It seems like they botched the faces in the transition from artwork to models for a few characters. They can look really good from certain angles, but then when the camera moves around a bit you start noticing how strange they look. Lily in particular has an odd, almost alien-looking face that looks like they couldn't decide if she was supposed to have the facial features of a child or an adult. Bland fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jun 1, 2023 |
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Jun 1, 2023 13:51
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Clean face mods when?
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can i play this game yet?
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KidDynamite posted:can i play this game yet? 15 hours unless you do some vpn or system clock fuckery
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Jun 1, 2023 13:56
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Jack Trades posted:Cammy's new costume is godlike but I'm not a fan of her new face. She's poggin' out of control (Yeah, she looks weird on the pre-match screen)
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Jun 1, 2023 14:01
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Soul Glo posted:15 hours unless you do some vpn or system clock fuckery If you're in Australia it's apparently in two hours. Finally, it's worth it to live here!
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Jun 1, 2023 14:05
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aaaah my fightstick gets here today! and i think I can take tomorrow off work without using pto! and i just had a couple dozen pre-rolled joints delivered! been getting more and more psyched for this all week, gonna have a highschool throwback weekend where I hang out and play video games all day and order pizza. except now my TV is bigger and my weed is better and also my dog is smarter and better trained she's just the best
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Jun 1, 2023 14:07
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Soul Glo posted:15 hours unless you do some vpn or system clock fuckery How long until Kiwi access? I was planning on flying to NZ for a couple of minutes. Cleretic posted:If you're in Australia it's apparently in two hours. Ah. Neat.
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Jun 1, 2023 14:25
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Its about to unlock on Steam Australia, I am gonna try the vpn trick see if it works.
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Jun 1, 2023 14:56
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Did any of the reviews mention how long it takes to max out a character for the costume? I'm almost certainly going to barely touch singleplayer for the next couple weeks, but if it's not too bad then I might at least get chun out of the way, maybe cammy? Hopefully the singleplayer will grab me when playing it, but I'd prefer not to use the fightcoins on things that I can just unlock via playing, even though the coins themselves are also gotten by playing if it's like the beta
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Looking at the unlockable costumes, I do think I actually prefer chun's older looks to her current. That's probably a ton of nostalgia doing some heavy lifting though Personally hoping for her Alpha costume down the line. Weird Pumpkin posted:Of the other mostly originals I think cammy's new costume is the biggest glow up, I'll still unlock the classic one eventually but it's still baffling to me that people complained. Though I guess not that surprising considering the people mostly doing the complaining "How dare she pants."
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Did any of the reviews mention how long it takes to max out a character for the costume? I work from home and have large times where I'm just sitting on a conference call for the sake of being there because I'm a manager, so I'll be doing a good chunk of PS Remote Play to work through the single player stuff.
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Jack Trades posted:One of the unlocks you get from Arcade Mode I've seen a couple more of these and it's really nice of Capcom to also provide free stick art
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