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General Battuta posted:I know nobody else plays this game but maybe the quirks of the meta are interesting??) I never played MWO but always found the second-hand reports of the evolving "meta", which really exist across all Battletech games hilarious. I always wondered if the in-fiction universe went through the same, where like from 2675 to 2680 everybody was all about stuffing big rear end guns in immobile trash cans for a while
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Sort of... https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clanbuster Or there was the time when the Heavy Gauss was developed, which was immediately slapped into whatever could carry it by the Lyrans from 3061
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:I got a second Comstar Command II and my little girl picked the King Crab out of the box as her toy. The Crab compels you. All mechs are crabs.
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Atlas Hugged posted:All mechs are crabs. Evolution, whether it be for life itself or simply just the battle mech, always ends in crab. If it isn’t crab, it isn’t finished 
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Jun 1, 2023 09:27
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Crab... crab finds a way.
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GD_American posted:I never played MWO but always found the second-hand reports of the evolving "meta", which really exist across all Battletech games hilarious. I always wondered if the in-fiction universe went through the same, where like from 2675 to 2680 everybody was all about stuffing big rear end guns in immobile trash cans for a while I thought BattleTech meta was just slapping tons of medium lasers on something and giving it jump jets. Works for me and my Grasshopper/Vindicator combos in HBS BattleTech.
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Is that how you do well in that game? I'll give it a shot haha.
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Elblanco posted:Is that how you do well in that game? I'll give it a shot haha.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Evolution, whether it be for life itself or simply just the battle mech, always ends in crab. If it isn’t crab, it isn’t finished  This isn't a mistake, this variant of the Crab is from the Carcinization Wars
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BattleMaster posted:
“Era: Crab” tells me all I needed to know about the Carcinization Wars  🦀
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So this is a thing what may be of interest: https://prideanthology.itch.io/2023
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First part of the shanty town is done you can see some close ups in the minis painting thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3705692&pagenumber=1299#post532235067
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:I thought BattleTech meta was just slapping tons of medium lasers on something and giving it jump jets. Large Laser+++ spam rules that game. The mods for it are different and ever-evolving. I've seen three separate eras in BTA (MG supremacy, heat damage supremacy, and goddamn Battle Armor supremacy).
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I feel like 3025 is almost a question of how many M lasers can you point at the enemy. It's wild that between 2785 and the clan invasion there was no real meaningful advances to the Jenner. Does that apply to all mechs?
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ilmucche posted:I feel like 3025 is almost a question of how many M lasers can you point at the enemy. That's the Succession Wars in a nutshell: it's hard to continue to advance technology if the labs, workshops, factories, scientists and engineers get deleted by Asset Management Weapons. You might even end up losing some tech. https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lostech There's also an ingame faction, ComStar, that deliberately stifles innovation (through murder, theft and dirty tricks) in order to maintain the status quo, supposedly to prevent asymmetry of force and re-escalation to the use of Asset Management Weapons.
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Lostech wss fun to discover in HBS. Not being super familiar with the setting the first time I salvaged a double heat sink I was very much  Then I played some megamek against clan mechs and it was some bullshit It's more fun when it's rare and only a little present I think, much as I love a locust IIC but dislike the 1V/1E. The locust C and IIC 2836 and 2832 intro dates. Does that mean the clans were using them by that point but they didn't appear in the inner sphere until the invasion ?
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ilmucche posted:I feel like 3025 is almost a question of how many M lasers can you point at the enemy.
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ilmucche posted:The locust C and IIC 2836 and 2832 intro dates. Does that mean the clans were using them by that point but they didn't appear in the inner sphere until the invasion ? Yep. The Clans continued to advance their technology, while the Inner Sphere slowly lost theirs. There was no meaningful contact between the two societies at large until Wolf's Dragoons arrived in the Inner Sphere in 3005. Even then, they didn't bring full-on Clan mechs with them (because it would be a dead giveaway that they ain't from around these parts). Those don't show up until the invasion.
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Arquinsiel posted:The updated Jenners were the Rattlesnake line, which were only recently-ish recanonised. They're basically using XL engines and DHS to just cram more medium lasers in there. The rattlesnake isn't even on flechs, but it looks like a solid as heck mech. What kind of armor is it packing?
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Kesper North posted:Yep. The Clans continued to advance their technology, while the Inner Sphere slowly lost theirs. There was no meaningful contact between the two societies at large until Wolf's Dragoons arrived in the Inner Sphere in 3005. Even then, they didn't bring full-on Clan mechs with them (because it would be a dead giveaway that they ain't from around these parts). Those don't show up until the invasion. If their technology is advancing then why don't they have poopers in the mech
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ilmucche posted:The rattlesnake isn't even on flechs, but it looks like a solid as heck mech. What kind of armor is it packing?
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HootTheOwl posted:If their technology is advancing then why don't they have poopers in the mech They took "eat poo poo" from Inner Sphere pilots a bit too literally.
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HootTheOwl posted:If their technology is advancing then why don't they have poopers in the mech Toilets are waste-ful. Ba-dum-tish.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Toilets are waste-ful. Put this down the crapper
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Kesper North posted:There's also an ingame faction, ComStar, that deliberately stifles innovation (through murder, theft and dirty tricks) in order to maintain the status quo, supposedly to prevent asymmetry of force and re-escalation to the use of Asset Management Weapons. Stefan Amaris is the game setting's Hitler equivalent, insomuch as his very name is a synonym for evil. Those in the know, however, recognize the biggest villain the Inner Sphere ever had. https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Conrad_Toyama
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Kesper North posted:Yep. The Clans continued to advance their technology, while the Inner Sphere slowly lost theirs. There was no meaningful contact between the two societies at large until Wolf's Dragoons arrived in the Inner Sphere in 3005. Even then, they didn't bring full-on Clan mechs with them (because it would be a dead giveaway that they ain't from around these parts). Those don't show up until the invasion. Wasn't there a Dragoon who brought a Stone Rhino or something with them? I mean, I guess they could just pretend it's an old Matar prototype, but still.
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I can buy the Dragoons not knowing certain things were extinct in the IS but they have no excuse for thinking Annihilators would blend in
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Lynx posted:Wasn't there a Dragoon who brought a Stone Rhino or something with them? Yeah. Went down at Misery, never mentioned again.
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BattleMaster posted:I can buy the Dragoons not knowing certain things were extinct in the IS but they have no excuse for thinking Annihilators would blend in I just blame it on horrible Clan record keeping, especially regarding their early history, which they have so heavily propagandized and rewritten that their public records are practically useless. If un-doctored and accurate documents of their early years even still existed by 3005, they certainly weren't going to let a bunch of freebirths being sent on a suicide mission look at them. So, the Dragoons are relying on half-remembered stories and falsified records when they're trying to determine what mechs to take with them, plus the Clans are probably only giving them crappy stuff that's been in mothballs anyways. If their spotty records say a mech was introduced before the Clans left the Inner Sphere, ehhhh, it's probably fine.
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GD_American posted:Stefan Amaris is the game setting's Hitler equivalent, insomuch as his very name is a synonym for evil. Toyama was just carrying out a plan that Blake laid out. It's in the Second Succession War book. Toyama was just a corporate climber, all of that apocalyptic cult stuff is 100% Blake.
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yeah, basically Blake thought ComStar would be just another grasping faction and decided to make it into a holy cause so they wouldn't waver. Of course, they still wavered, just it became technology the religion and making sure that they had technology and others didn't.
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HootTheOwl posted:If their technology is advancing then why don't they have poopers in the mech Different design requirements. IS mechs are designed to fight war the way think of it, with pilots in the field for weeks on end and often living out of their mechs. The Clan way of war is via prearranged duels of honor. If you're a clanner, you don't need a toilet in your mech because 1) You're fighting in a prearranged place for a few hours and then you're done 2) It would be supremely dishonorable to kill you on the shitter 3) You are incredibly constipated (as indicated by Nicholai Malthus's facial expressions) The Clan invasion failed despite their massive technological advantage in part because their mechs are not designed to be in the field for a long duration and in part because the Inner Sphere is quite happy to kill you on the shitter, or anywhere else you might be.
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SirFozzie posted:yeah, basically Blake thought ComStar would be just another grasping faction and decided to make it into a holy cause so they wouldn't waver. He also thought that he could just use religion as a way to program people to behave how he wanted, because he was a true stemlord and didn't understand they schism all the time. Just a real big dumbass.
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Defiance Industries posted:Toyama was just carrying out a plan that Blake laid out. It's in the Second Succession War book. Toyama was just a corporate climber, all of that apocalyptic cult stuff is 100% Blake. I'd argue that overseeing the hellish details of literally dragging humanity back centuries technologically, as well as ensuring the deaths of hundreds of billions war by directly manipulating heads of state towards an all-encompassing war makes Toyama far more evil than an rear end in a top hat on his deathbed visited by the Bright Idea Fairy.
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GD_American posted:Stefan Amaris is the game setting's Hitler equivalent, insomuch as his very name is a synonym for evil. Defiance Industries posted:Toyama was just carrying out a plan that Blake laid out. It's in the Second Succession War book. Toyama was just a corporate climber, all of that apocalyptic cult stuff is 100% Blake.
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GD_American posted:I'd argue that overseeing the hellish details of literally dragging humanity back centuries technologically, as well as ensuring the deaths of hundreds of billions war by directly manipulating heads of state towards an all-encompassing war makes Toyama far more evil than an rear end in a top hat on his deathbed visited by the Bright Idea Fairy. Holy Shroud was Raymond Karpov, not Toyama. That would have required Toyama to have ideas of his own.
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Everyone who worked on project Diemos are three villains and they need to be punished
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Defiance Industries posted:Holy Shroud was Raymond Karpov, not Toyama. That would have required Toyama to have ideas of his own. Toyama did encourage and make the 2nd Succession War worse through the Comstar News Bureau and manipulating that Marik scion and her Captain-General Brother.
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Cross posted from the GBS thread. Some fresh drama in the BattleTech community just dropped.  An anthology of queer Battletech stories was recently released with the blessing of CGL. It turned out that the moderators on r/battletech were alt-right bigots and they had a meltdown due to the gay mechs. The community responded by ripping into the mods and posting pride coloured mechs, cat girls and cat mechs.  This caused the r/battletech mods to completely poo poo the bed and delete the sub. The community started a new LGBTQIA+ friendly sub https://www.reddit.com/r/OfficialBattleTech/ which has received official backing from CGL: CGL posted:Hi everyone, this is Rem Alternis - the Community and Marketing Director from Catalyst Game Labs.
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So that son I mentioned enjoying battletech stories at bedtime? He actually came out last year. He's not old enough to be dating yet, but he knows he feels a certain kind of way and I want him to feel supported. I downloaded that anthology and read him one of the stories over the past couple nights. He liked that in the 31st century no one was homophobic against the "space lesbians." I also kicked 20 bucks to the Trevor Project raffle. Battletech is for everyone. Let the mechs be gay together.
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