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AfricanBootyShine: Jan 9, 2006; Snake wins.

I'm still waiting for my civil war game where I get to slaughter hordes of confederates (I will be waiting forever).

Though I would not want it to be historically accurate. A musket fps would be hard to pull off unless you're the groggiest of grogs.

# ? Jun 1, 2023 23:09

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# ? May 24, 2024 02:55

buglord: Jul 31, 2010; Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!; Buglord

deep dish peat moss posted:

It's fine with pubbies. I think the performance issues have been mostly sorted out, but I was lucky and never ran into any (I disabled RTX in a config file at launch which seems to have avoided most problems for lots of people, the in-game RTX options didn't actually disable it).

It had a lot of just kind of embarrassing bugs, like the aforementioned RTX option not disabling RTX, certain stats doing literally nothing, tooltips being wrong, etc. A lot of that has been fixed, but it's kind of a running joke that that stuff is par for the course for Fatshark and it still exists to some extent.

There's not much progression-wise (nothing to achieve once you hit level 30) and a lot of players are upset that getting a "perfect" weapon is RNG, coming from the Vermintide series where you could essentially just craft yourself a perfect weapon.

There have been no major content drops since release. I'm under the impression that part of this is because they had to pause development of new content to backpedal on their cash shop plans and do a lot of bug fixing (It had the FOMO rotating cosmetic thing going on but got removed/changed) but

One of the more vocal continued complaints about it is that the voice lines between characters aren't as detailed/interesting because they're not pre-gen characters anymore, they're all player-made and you choose a background that dictates your voice lines. There's an absurd amount of variety in the lines you're given but they feel kind of dissonant because they're not pre-written linear conversations, they're just random backgrounds mashing lines together.

Another major complaint is that you can't choose exactly what mission you do at any given time, you select from a list of ~18 available missions on the mission board. Some of them have fun modifiers like playing in pitch blackness and having more of a certain type of specialist enemy available, but again you can't choose exactly what you want, you have to choose from what's available at the mission board. This can lead to repeating the same mission a few times in a row if you just select random queue.

Also, all of the maps are pretty samey environment-wise. They're incredibly detailed and fun to look at, but they're all various industrial slums or sewers. There's no real environmental variety - no jungle worlds or ice worlds or anything.

Most of the ill will from the community has come from things like the devs taking a 6-week collective vacation right after launch without communicating about it with the players, and just generally that it tries to be a "live service" game when it seems like the devs don't really know what that entails.

The good is hard to explain but all of the little pieces come together so well - the way weapons feel, hit feedback on enemies or environmental objects, particle effects, sounds, lighting, relatively high skill-ceiling mobility, etc. They all just come together in an incredibly satisfying and fun way. I didn't particularly expect "more" out of the other stuff so I wasn't disappointed by it and just had fun with how satisfying the gameplay was.

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

I played it about a week ago, it's still much the same as at launch. Roughly the same performance (though that wasn't a big issue for me), the item/weapon shop had moved in the hub but otherwise had the same selection of boring cosmetics while all the good ones are over at the paid currency store. Technically some new weapons but it was like the starting selection where a lot of them are just variations of one another, at least it seems like you can buy specific ones now instead of having to wait out the store inventory rotation. They've implemented the techpriest thing with adding blessings to weapons but I didn't play enough to use it.

Game is still fun because it was always fun but I didn't see much improvement in the systems surrounding the actual gameplay. Same as then, they would still benefit a lot from shamelessly stealing design choices
from DRG.

Late to reply to this, but thanks for all the info.I guess I'll let WH Darktide bake in the oven for another year, if it makes it that long.

# ? Jun 1, 2023 23:10

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

AfricanBootyShine posted:

I'm still waiting for my civil war game where I get to slaughter hordes of confederates (I will be waiting forever).

Though I would not want it to be historically accurate. A musket fps would be hard to pull off unless you're the groggiest of grogs.

is this what you're maybe looking for https://store.steampowered.com/app/424030/War_of_Rights/

# ? Jun 1, 2023 23:11

John Murdoch: May 19, 2009; I can tune a fish.

CuddleCryptid posted:

Sadly, after playing Shadows of Doubt which is the closest to the supposed definition of an immersive sim as exists to this day, I have to say that it's a meaningless term because System Shock is a gread game but a bad immersive sim too.

Imo a lot of the early "immersive sims" like SS and Deus Ex 1 got a pass on "wow so cool it's like im living in this world of infinite possibility" because the standard for the day was so low. Nowadays even indie games have poo poo all over their levels and "one step up from a grey box" doesn't cut it anymore.

I've said it before but the term is both largely obsoleted because "every" game is now part RPG or has some other immsim quality (and we no longer need to clearly differentiate System Shock from Doom) and also literally nobody will ever agree on what it actually means because even the canonical progenitors of the genre are all completely different from one another.

# ? Jun 1, 2023 23:48

Trick Question: Apr 9, 2007

imm sim is when you can eat 50 snacks to heal your bullet wounds

# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:07

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Trick Question posted:

imm sim is when you can eat 50 snacks to heal your bullet wounds

I know Cyberpunk was trying to make a statement with it or whatever, but one of the most annoying things about the game for me is how all the food and drink is basically the same.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:15

Mr E: Sep 18, 2007

I said come in! posted:

We Love Katamari is out now on Steam.

Didn't have any issues at all with the port once I got the graphics settings set up, still the amazing game it's always been but now in HD. Will be putting many many hours into this.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:27

A good poster: Jan 10, 2010

Mr E posted:

Didn't have any issues at all with the port once I got the graphics settings set up, still the amazing game it's always been but now in HD. Will be putting many many hours into this.

Do you have to do the tutorial in Windowed mode before you can change the graphics options like you had to in the first Reroll?

# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:01

Scalding Coffee: Jun 26, 2006; You're already dead

Had to delay playing the game since the controller got gunky somehow. Going to take all night to clean it. A real shame I won't be speedrunning to the rose mission.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:04

Mr E: Sep 18, 2007

A good poster posted:

Do you have to do the tutorial in Windowed mode before you can change the graphics options like you had to in the first Reroll?

I think it�s available from the create a file menu but if not you can change options before entering the tutorial. You start in the overworld first.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:14

Rebel Blob: Mar 1, 2008; Extinction for our time

Trick Question posted:

imm sim is when you can eat 50 snacks to heal your bullet wounds

Human Revolution pushed the genre forward by having you eat an entire jar of mayo to gain energy.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:20

HopperUK: Apr 29, 2007; Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Can't wait to disappoint my extremely camp dad. In the game.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 01:39

kazil: Jul 24, 2005; Derpmph trial star reporter!

Rebel Blob posted:

Human Revolution pushed the genre forward by having you eat an entire jar of mayo to gain energy.

like, you didn't put in your coffee first or anything?

# ? Jun 2, 2023 02:20

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

Rebel Blob posted:

Human Revolution pushed the genre forward by having you eat an entire jar of mayo to gain energy.

I always figured that was a 10 L bucket of protein powder.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 04:21

FutureCop: Jun 7, 2011; Have you heard of Fermat's principle?

I thought the immsim test was encountering a hallway with a turret in it:

*if that's all there is, it's an FPS
*if there's an airvent to circumvent it, it's a stealth game
*if there's an airvent and also a security station from which you can hack the turret, then it's an immsim

I dunno, I think it's always just something about airvents and keypads

# ? Jun 2, 2023 05:27

woke kaczynski: Jan 23, 2015; How do you do, fellow antifa?; Fun Shoe

Apparently I can't call Tears of the Kingdom an immsim so I'm back to having no idea wtf this genre is

# ? Jun 2, 2023 05:50

Mr.Acula: May 10, 2009; Billions and billions of fat clouds

hypnospace outlaw is on sale, is that an immsim?

# ? Jun 2, 2023 05:56

err: Apr 11, 2005; I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

is anyone following the Suikoden remakes? i never played them and I am hoping it is a good port/remake.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 05:58

fez_machine: Nov 27, 2004

FutureCop posted:

I thought the immsim test was encountering a hallway with a turret in it:

*if that's all there is, it's an FPS
*if there's an airvent to circumvent it, it's a stealth game
*if there's an airvent and also a security station from which you can hack the turret, then it's an immsim

I dunno, I think it's always just something about airvents and keypads

and audio logs

The code for the security station has to be on an audio log

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:08

Pwnstar: Dec 9, 2007; Who wants some waffles?

I'm trying to figure out if I'd consider a 3rd person game an immersive sim. It seems like it shouldn't matter but it feels wrong to me. Weird West is a game that has almost all the immersive sim ingredients but it feels not quite there somehow.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:12

Foul Fowl: Sep 12, 2008; Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

buglord posted:

I really love your av. I hope whatever what weird mech shooter coming out from the same guy is gonna be good.

hell yeah, i also can't wait. love this current era of weird and/or excellent games from one dev.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:19

Jack Trades: Nov 30, 2010

Pwnstar posted:

I'm trying to figure out if I'd consider a 3rd person game an immersive sim. It seems like it shouldn't matter but it feels wrong to me. Weird West is a game that has almost all the immersive sim ingredients but it feels not quite there somehow.

Weird West was infinitely more of an immersive sim than Deathloop for example.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:33

Upsidads: Jan 11, 2007; Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates

If you ever have cover of any sort it's a cover shooter

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:43

ErrEff: Feb 13, 2012

Mr.Acula posted:

hypnospace outlaw is on sale, is that an immsim?

Sure, why not. Immerse yourself in the role of a web moderator.

Will you censor Gumshoe Gooper or let him go free?

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:47

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

err posted:

is anyone following the Suikoden remakes? i never played them and I am hoping it is a good port/remake.

i haven't been, but just looking at the trailer they seem pretty good. the character sprites look really nice and clear, which i would say is probably the one thing that would be an absolute deal-breaker for me given how much love was put into the spritework in the originals. i feel like the 2d gameworld seems stretched slightly vertically, but that could just be the new backgrounds fighting my memory.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 06:49

Owl Inspector: Sep 14, 2011

ErrEff posted:

Sure, why not. Immerse yourself in the role of a web moderator.

Will you censor Gumshoe Gooper or let him go free?

I stand with gooper

# ? Jun 2, 2023 07:26

Cheap Trick: Jan 4, 2007

fez_machine posted:

and audio logs

The code for the security station has to be on an audio log

I was going to add "Dialog tree to negotiate a ceasefire with the turret" but maybe that strays too close to RPG territory

# ? Jun 2, 2023 08:16

boofhead: Feb 18, 2021

Cheap Trick posted:

I was going to add "Dialog tree to negotiate a ceasefire with the turret" but maybe that strays too close to RPG territory

I think a "choices MATTER" RPG means that if you negotiate with the turret rather than destroying it, at the epilogue cut scene you can see a framed painting of a turret with love hearts around it in your apartment

There are no other choices in the game but damned if they don't advertise the hell out of CHOICES MATTER on that single dialogue choice alone

# ? Jun 2, 2023 09:05

Kazzah: Jul 15, 2011; Formerly known as
Krazyface; Hair Elf

I call them oh-four-five-one em ups

# ? Jun 2, 2023 09:24

Zetsubou-san: Jan 28, 2015; Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎

Scalding Coffee posted:

Still waiting on that ball-rolling game.

it came out thirteen years ago

# ? Jun 2, 2023 11:22

Floodkiller: May 31, 2011

AfricanBootyShine posted:

I'm still waiting for my civil war game where I get to slaughter hordes of confederates (I will be waiting forever).

Though I would not want it to be historically accurate. A musket fps would be hard to pull off unless you're the groggiest of grogs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkest_of_Days

You start out in each era with the historically accurate stuff and then you pull out the future assault rifles and poo poo.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 11:27

Bourricot: Aug 7, 2016

ErrEff posted:

Sure, why not. Immerse yourself in the role of a web moderator.

Will you censor Gumshoe Gooper or let him go free?

BTW, there's still a week left to get a Gumshoe Gooper plush

# ? Jun 2, 2023 11:55

AfricanBootyShine: Jan 9, 2006; Snake wins.

I said come in! posted:

is this what you're maybe looking for https://store.steampowered.com/app/424030/War_of_Rights/

Nothing like that. I want to slaughter them like the scum they are. Think Wolfenstein meets Django Unchained.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 12:52

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

AfricanBootyShine posted:

Nothing like that. I want to slaughter them like the scum they are. Think Wolfenstein meets Django Unchained.

Sounds like you need to play Darkest Of Days which I have not played but from what I understand prominently features a future space soldier going back in time to mow down confederates.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 13:17

haldolium: Oct 22, 2016

buglord posted:

Late to reply to this, but thanks for all the info.I guess I'll let WH Darktide bake in the oven for another year, if it makes it that long.

tbh I don't believe a later date would completely alter the experience and change the game as much/address all the issues. Might as well enjoy it for what it is right now instead of hoping for a huge turnaround. Unless technical problems I think its a very enjoyable game right now.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 13:58

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

haldolium posted:

tbh I don't believe a later date would completely alter the experience and change the game as much/address all the issues. Might as well enjoy it for what it is right now instead of hoping for a huge turnaround. Unless technical problems I think its a very enjoyable game right now.

Yeah Darktide was great from day 1 from a gameplay standpoint. The carrot to keep people grinding out levels was bad but it's a really fun game. I've fallen off it because I'm not super into gear ladders after a certain point but you can absolutely get your money's worth out of it just from what is in the game right now.

I would just expect it to be a 50 hour game instead of a 5000 hour lifestyle.

# ? Jun 2, 2023 14:01

Upsidads: Jan 11, 2007; Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates

CuddleCryptid posted:

Sounds like you need to play Darkest Of Days which I have not played but from what I understand prominently features a future space soldier going back in time to mow down confederates.

It's pretty mid

# ? Jun 2, 2023 14:11

CuddleCryptid: Jan 11, 2013; Things could be going better

Upsidads posted:

It's pretty mid

So is the cinematography and plot in most porn, that doesn't mean it isn't gratifying.

VVV buddy if I had a sense of shame I wouldn't be posting here.

CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jun 2, 2023

# ? Jun 2, 2023 14:31

Leal: Oct 2, 2009

CuddleCryptid posted:

So is the cinematography and plot in most porn, that doesn't mean it isn't gratifying.

But do you really want to feel the shame and deal with cleanup after every gaming session?

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# ? May 24, 2024 02:55

Weedle: May 31, 2006

Kazzah posted:

I call them oh-four-five-one em ups

booper shoopers (you boop the code in on the keypad and then the door shoops open)

# ? Jun 2, 2023 15:45

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