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I liked the episode where Qwark goes into business with Gayla and gets wracked with guilt in the process. I particularly liked Sisko's line "I may not be able to get you on arms dealing, but if you so much as litter on the promenade, I'll nail you to the wall."
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zoux posted:I didn't get the sense it was spiritual, Calvin was the voice of the Maquis in their first major appearance and he appeared to be doing it out of sheer cussedness and gently caress the Cardassians I meant Journey's End, afaik it's the first colony that leaves the Federation. quote:PICARD: Anthwara, there's very little I can do. The decision about this planet was made at the very highest level of Starfleet. In DS9 it seems the main complaint ex-Federation colonists have is that living under Cardassian rule is not going well for them and that they somehow didn't anticipate this or thought they would be exempt for some reason. quote:HUDSON: These settlers, Ben, if you saw all they have accomplished without any help from the Federation, then you'd fight along with them. quote:EDDINGTON: Those people, They were colonists on Salva Two. They had farms, and shops, and homes, and schools, and then one day the Federation signed a treaty and handed their world over to the Cardassians. Just like that. They made these people refugees overnight. Like on a couple occasions people in the Maquis are like "the Federation was naïve to think the Cardassians wouldn't try to gently caress with the colonists" but the colonists have been living on the Cardassian border while a war has been going on around them for 20 years so you would think that they would know better than "the Federation" that it's a bad idea to live under Cardassian rule but it seems like they thought they could just keep farming and not have to worry about their food replicators being poisoned and getting tortured and killed by Cardassians which makes them come across as a bunch of dumbfucks.
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HD DAD posted:Voyager Minus Chakotay: the episodes are the same but Beltran and his lines are just missing Brawnfire posted:Me, partway through a season 6 episode: ...wait, is something different? Human Error is just Seven exploring the joys of autoeroticism.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:12 |
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seeing a lot of "they were asking for it" re: the maquis
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:20 |
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Did that one orphan changeling that Odo ran into flying around in outer space ever get to rejoin the great link? Was there any follow up on that guy in any other trek media?
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:39 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Computer, make an outfit capable of disgusting Jake Sisko * processing sounds until infinity *
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:41 |
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I read 8 pages just to say I like how the old thread ran for 7 years and then ended.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:09 |
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Nullsmack posted:I read 8 pages just to say All good things...
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:21 |
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Nullsmack posted:I read 8 pages just to say If you loved the old thread you'll love the new thread. We're bringing back all your favorite posts and we're not paying any of the writers!
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:25 |
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Trixie Hardcore posted:If you loved the old thread you'll love the new thread. We're bringing back all your favorite posts and we're not paying any of the writers! Wait, you were all getting paid?
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Mike the TV posted:Wait, you were all getting paid? I got paid in something called “exposure.” I think it’s the antimatter equivalent to gold-pressed latinum.
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Mike the TV posted:Wait, you were all getting paid? The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our posting
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Awww, Nog calling Lita "Moogie"
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Trixie Hardcore posted:If you loved the old thread you'll love the new thread. We're bringing back all your favorite posts and we're not paying any of the writers! It's the Modern version of the Classic Trek thread. The first 30 pages suck horrible gonads and then we finally figure out how to post good around year 2 or 3 of it being around so see you all in 2025!
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My posting will never improve. I promise
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 22:11 |
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Nessus posted:My posting will never improve. I promise We call this PicardPosting
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Nessus posted:My posting will never improve. I promise shitposters blood oath
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 22:59 |
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Nessus posted:My posting will never improve. I promise But do you swear upon the honor of your house?
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Der Kyhe posted:Someone in the process was, don't remember the details anymore. That's why there is so much pink and purple in places that should be light or dark brown or gray. That was Hal Sutherland, the animation director. However, his article on Memory Alpha blames the colorist, who wasn't colorblind, just liked those colors: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hal_Sutherland
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Part 2 of TNG ship porn: the prelude is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPLbgHfw44 That Star Trek: Borg inclusion
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:01 |
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Alexander is much more likeable in TNG than DS9. His whole "Destined to become a politician and unite the houses" was way more interesting than the mess that he starts out as in DS9.
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e:del
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I just smoked a big bowl in my bong or maybe three, but I keep thinking about "Move Along Home" and it's really gotten under my skin. I don't hate the episode, and there's actually quite a bit about it I like. Quark's performance is exceptional. I think it's a great character moment for him and shows that his greed does have a limit and there is a genuine conscience within him. They're obviously going to build on this throughout the series. Odo as always knocks it out of the park, and his relationship with Quark is peaking with this episode. I even like the concept. We can assume that in an early season 1 episode even at the time of airing that the stakes were going to be low, but it's still a fun adventure that could have presented some really thrilling set pieces. The issue is that it fails to deliver on that promise. The game itself is so abstracted that you can't really tell if the player is making substantial decisions or just a bystander. It also seems weird that this could at all be interesting within their own society. They'd know how to get through each challenge and they wouldn't be afraid of taking risks. It only works in first contact scenarios where the opposing player doesn't know what the actual threat is. Worst of all, the scenarios themselves are deeply lame. When you say, "Only children start on [level] 1," you better throw something at me that's genuinely a threat right away. loving hopscotch? I get the show had budget constraints, but there must be any number of high concept scenarios they could have come up with and done on a limited set and effects budget. Also, when they took the sticks out, I thought for sure they'd be an integral part of playing the game, for like making barriers, attacking enemies, or moving pieces chopstick style. Quark would have realized his folly of being obsessed with hard currency and not taking a keener interest in important cultural items. He'd then have to start making side bets with the other aliens to win some of the sticks at a crucial moment to save them from a challenge. He'd still be caught out without a stick on his last roll and he'd still have to beg for mercy, but it would have given him more to do than waffle between playing and ending the game. Anyway, it would have been interesting to see if they kept DS9 as an episode of the week kind of a show where each episode was a different first contact scenario. I'm not sure how long that could have sustained itself though.
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It's funny to realise in retrospect that we didn't see the Gamma Quadrant for two whole seasons towards the end of DS9: last time we see it before the finale is 5x22.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I just smoked a big bowl in my bong or maybe three, but I keep thinking about "Move Along Home" and it's really gotten under my skin. Currently Trek fandom is in the "backlash to the backlash" phase where people say this episode is good, actually, but personally I still find it to be pretty boring. Quotable, but boring. The stakes are too low for it to be dramatic, and the game is too meaningless to be fun, and they don't fully explore the idea of learning why the aliens care so much about this in their culture. I guess the best thing I'd say about it is maybe it was a first step towards the series' eventual theme of how to really work through cultural clashes instead of just assuming the Starfleet way is always the best way.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 16:31 |
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The Starfleet security officer being a complete doofus and getting owned by Odo in the episode lends credence to that idea.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Odo as always knocks it out of the park, and his relationship with Quark is peaking with this episode. Good news! This is figuratively AND literally wrong
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Atlas Hugged posted:I just smoked a big bowl in my bong or maybe three, but I keep thinking about "Move Along Home" and it's really gotten under my skin. The game is Chutes and Ladders
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Getting to the end of my TNG run and we're like 10ish episodes from the end and now is the time for a Beverly and her ghost-lover episode? You had 7 seasons to work through your dumb ghost-lover ideas, now you're gonna waste one of the last episodes on it?
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 17:02 |
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Bong is the appropriate headspace for Move Along Home. I also don't think it's a good episode, but it is the type of bad episode I prefer, where at least they're trying something even if I don't think it worked. The episodes that are both bad and lazy are the ones I really hate. Insert Voyager joke here.
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Move Along Home isn't a great episode, but fan hatred for it - like fan hatred for DS9 and TNG's first seasons - is way beyond what it deserves, in my opinion (thus the "backlash against the backlash" that someone else identified). That's probably true for Voyager as well, which is mostly bland and forgettable rather than hateable.
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BioEnchanted posted:Alexander is much more likeable in TNG than DS9. His whole "Destined to become a politician and unite the houses" was way more interesting than the mess that he starts out as in DS9. Honestly its that and I think I remember hearing about something bad happening to one on of O'Brien's children that I'm not looking forward to in DS9.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 17:08 |
Move Along Home has powerful 70s sci fi energy and I respect that.
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Move Along Home is a Season 3 TOS episode that burst out of Season 1 DS9's chest like a xenomorph infant.
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I don’t think it’s a good episode but at least it’s not boring
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Now season 3 of TOS, that's an example of something where the level of hatred is just about right for what it is. Most of the episodes range from half-baked to with some hidden gems among the turds.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Move Along Home isn't a great episode, but fan hatred for it - like fan hatred for DS9 and TNG's first seasons - is way beyond what it deserves, in my opinion (thus the "backlash against the backlash" that someone else identified). That's probably true for Voyager as well, which is mostly bland and forgettable rather than hateable. It’s Threshold syndrome - there’s a very dull repeated joke about how Threshold is one of the worst things committed to celluloid, whereas in reality it’s a very average Voyager episode, with a batshit insane final 10 minutes.
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Basebf555 posted:Getting to the end of my TNG run and we're like 10ish episodes from the end and now is the time for a Beverly and her ghost-lover episode? You had 7 seasons to work through your dumb ghost-lover ideas, now you're gonna waste one of the last episodes on it? You've got to think about it the other way around, they were really running on empty by S7 and running whatever dregs they could scape up, which is why the season is so shaky in general
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Zaroff posted:It’s Threshold syndrome - there’s a very dull repeated joke about how Threshold is one of the worst things committed to celluloid, whereas in reality it’s a very average Voyager episode, with a batshit insane final 10 minutes. This is what it feels like to watch people's opinion on trek stuff sometimes lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE I've seen it happen in real time a few times now
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Boxturret posted:This is what it feels like to watch people's opinion on trek stuff sometimes lol And the problem with this would be that....?
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