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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jippa posted:

When football fans are anti semitic it's not that subtle. Like hissing and singing "spurs are on their way to auschwitz" etc.
Yes, if I were a London journalist and writing an article on AS in football, I would probably focus more on the holocaust chants and the firms using SS insignia before making wild claims about Irish Celtic fans waving Palestine flags because they hate Jews.

OwlFancier posted:

I believe in the UK if the characters are underage it is still illegal, and it's been that way for quite a while.
It was one of those laws rushed through in the last year of Gordon Brown's cabinet, and originally poorly worded enough that it would have banned a lot of Renaissance art (not to mention the Greek pederasty bowls).

Nearly everyone convicted of it has also had actual CAI though, as it's pretty low priority otherwise. I have no idea what this guy was doing to get caught.

e: The Saffir-Simpson scale measures hurricanes from 1 to 5 and is nothing to do with Bart's dong.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Bart Simpson is 46 years old.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Bobby Deluxe posted:

There was a timeline posted in the last thread, unless I misremembered he first met the kid at a talent contest thing when the kid was young - maybe not 10 but I remember it being way under any age of consent - kept in touch via twitter, got him a position as a runner on the show, started getting innapropriately close as early as 15 and was openly having a relationship with him at 18 or 19.

Whether or not he intended to have a relationship with the kid the whole time, it's still creepy to meet a kid and then later develop an attraction to that person suspiciously close to what was the age of consent for gay men for a long time.

Also I don't care about the math, a 60 year old tv personality having sex with a 20 year old would be looked down on as an abuse of power if it was Andrew Neil any straight TV personality.

it’s absolutely an abuse of power but it’s still not even close to actual, proven in court, child abuse, which was the original claim

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 2, 2023

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Almost wonder if it's an Al Capone thing, like they wanted to get him off the streets for something, and that was the only thing they could get him for.

E: the sunderland nonce, not schofield.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


ThomasPaine posted:

How the gently caress is that illegal lol, it's weird but it's literally a cartoon. Even if it is, technically, by the letter of the law, how the gently caress does it end up going to court? I'm pretty sure I've seen vastly worse on the internet and there is heaps of similar material that you hardly need to go on the dark web to find. I'm not going to test the theory right now but I'm almost certain you could find that poo poo openly on Pornhub or one of the other mainstream streaming sites very easily, and it's not like it's common for people to be lifted for looking at them. What on earth did this guy do to draw attention to himself to the point the police turned up to take his hard drive. Did he have literal terabytes of simpsons incest porn on his computer? What??? If the legal system is going to start cracking down on this sort of thing a lot of anime profile pic havers will be sweating lol.

It's a magistrates court, so even odds the panel was three retired boomers disgusted with the idea of cartoon porn in general and assumed it must be criminal.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The bootlegging, racketeering, intimidation, murder for hire, and trafficking won't stand up in court, go after his hentai!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

happyhippy posted:

Politicians never get done for pedoness.
They die, then its hinted at.

The Pedoness of Lancashire

Renfield
Feb 29, 2008
I remember when it came in; they removed the distinction between animation or cartoons and photographs or video of real people.

According to Wiki, it was the 2009 Coroners and Justice Act that did this and before, cartoons or animation had only been considered to be illegal if they where realistic.

quote:

The Act made it illegal to own any picture depicting under-18s participating in sexual activities, or depictions of sexual activity in the presence of someone under 18 years old.

And in 2014 someone got a 9 month suspended sentence for 400 Hentai manga images, so Bart and Marge getting it on is classed as images of child abuse under our current laws.

ThomasPaine posted:

What on earth did this guy do to draw attention to himself to the point the police turned up to take his hard drive. Did he have literal terabytes of simpsons incest porn on his computer?

It's probably one of those laws that gets enforced when they feel like it- or like the guy who crashed into Downing Street's gates recently - it was an accident, but they where gonna do him for something, so went through his phone.

Renfield fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 2, 2023

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Bart Simpson is 46 years old.

I mean yeah I don't know, or really want to know, how they decide on the age of fictional characters.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
It definitely seems like we're in the awkward holding phase where a lot of media insider types are indicating that Schofield is a gigantic sexmonster who's the beneficiary of heavy institutional and legal protection, but can't repeat specific allegations against him because he's the beneficiary of heavy institutional and legal protection, and therefore anyone who sticks their head above the parapet will be flayed alive (metaphorically and possibly literally) to send a message. Not the first time that's happened in this country or in this industry, and we know that it's a status quo that can hold for a depressingly long time.

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

How the gently caress is that illegal lol, it's weird but it's literally a cartoon. Even if it is, technically, by the letter of the law, how the gently caress does it end up going to court? I'm pretty sure I've seen vastly worse on the internet and there is heaps of similar material that you hardly need to go on the dark web to find. I'm not going to test the theory right now but I'm almost certain you could find that poo poo openly on Pornhub or one of the other mainstream streaming sites very easily, and it's not like it's common for people to be lifted for looking at them. What on earth did this guy do to draw attention to himself to the point the police turned up to take his hard drive. Did he have literal terabytes of simpsons incest porn on his computer? What??? If the legal system is going to start cracking down on this sort of thing a lot of anime profile pic havers will be sweating lol.

Cameron era government made an ammendment to legislation concerning Possession of Indecent Image/s of a Child to include "Pseudo Images" which covers drawings of said material.

e: Not Cameron era it appears, bit earlier.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

Cameron era government made an ammendment to legislation concerning Possession of Indecent Image/s of a Child to include "Pseudo Images" which covers drawings of said material.

I did not know that.

I was more inclined to either the 'fake news' theory (and had a look to see if Sunderland Echo was one of those parody 'news' outlets) .or the Al Capone theory.
It would be an excuse to search someone's hard drive. Maybe he was suspected of actual child porn (maybe someone reported him) so they used that clause to get a look at his hard drive?
I doubt we shall ever know!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Pseudophotographs have been illegal much longer than cartoons (Major era), because Photoshop etc. came out in the 90s and a broad standard was adopted of "if we can't tell if that's a real photo of a child or not, the person with it is probably some kind of nonce, so let's not get too caught up in whether it's actually real or not."

Anything that could be defended as artistic was held to be outside of that until Brown. (Or more specifically Alan Johnson, who was a fan of writing legislation about fields that he knew gently caress all about.)

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
If this guy really exists and was convicted would it be possible to look that up somewhere?

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



From a few pages back but, the company I usually work with has a system where you report anything that is unsafe or a "close call" as they put it and then it gets fixed. Great in theory however, in pracitse what they want you to report is someone forgetting to wear gloves or something you could trip over in the car park. they certainly don't want something actually unsafe as that will mean an investigation, paper work and the possibility of a site shut down all of which is very bad. In that case you just work round it and get on with it.

OwlFancier posted:

How the gently caress do they have gig economy track workers? Surely you need actual loving training to work on a rail line?

You do your PTS (Personal Track Safety) training which is all about how far to stand away from the track when their is a train, saftey around rail vehicles and electrical overheads or third rail, what PPE you should have and all that sort of thing. You also do what's called a 'track Induction' which teaches you a bit about how to maintain a track otherwise you learn everything on the job.

Spangly A posted:

You get training, which you ignore whenever it creates time constraints, but it's the standard off-payroll work setup that ir35 governs, which I guess counts as gig economy work in a way?

My sister's partner does it, and having just turned 30 and playing a few sports (and also golf) at the weekends, has the worst cough I've ever heard. My nan sounded better than he does right before she died of lung cancer. PPE wastes time, you see, and wasted time means bad metrics means not getting out on the rota

Plus we're men, gently caress that PPE nonsense we want to get this work done, that nonce might need some ear guards to cut this rail with this very noisy machine that creates a lot of sparks but I'm hard and don't need anything like that even if it does start to burn through my clothes and I have a constant ringing in my ears.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

If this guy really exists and was convicted would it be possible to look that up somewhere?

quote:

District Judge Zoe Passfield told him said there were “some points of concern” highlighted in a pre-sentence report commissioned into his behaviour.

But she said they could be addressed via a 12-month community order, containing 20 days of rehabilitative work with the Probation Service – and she did not place him on the sex offender register.

She's a real judge, so I can only assume the rest of it is really real too.

Source: https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/sunderland-student-in-court-over-picture-of-bart-simpson-being-sexually-abused-by-marge-4164983

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's funny I went out today to get some PPE for my new job which the company is paying for, so hopefully they take it seriously, got some very nice S3 boots out of it. Certainly makes a change from my last job where I had to buy my own equipment.

It just seems baffling that what I assume is pretty skilled labour would also go with the disposable labour model. Surely you just end up with people effectively working full time anyway or being incredibly poo poo at the job. Though I suppose "functionally doing a full time job with none of the benefits" is the other side of gig economy bullshit from the one I was on.

E: on a related note actually, does anyone know if you can get, like, XL hard hat suspensions? The one I have just barely fits on my gigantic head but I'd like one that goes under my occipital bone a bit better so I can ratchet it on properly.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jun 2, 2023

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
What you need OwlFancier is a dwarf's helm

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


OwlFancier posted:

It just seems baffling that what I assume is pretty skilled labour would also go with the disposable labour model. Surely you just end up with people effectively working full time anyway or being incredibly poo poo at the job. Though I suppose "functionally doing a full time job with none of the benefits" is the other side of gig economy bullshit from the one I was on.

I think the most useful skills are being very good at shoveling and swinging a hammer hard and accurately. Generally a lot of people are poo poo at the job I've only been on three years and am considered something of an old head because I can use the tools and complete most of the more technical jobs on my own. The problem with this is that I get called on a lot to do them and so people who haven't had a lot of practise are never able to get good at them. At the moment there are a large number of jobs and a small number of workers to go between them leading people such as myself to work for 10 days straight then have a day off before working another 10 days straight which promotes fatigue and that's when a lot of accidents happen.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

To the surprise of nobody:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1664647990068273160

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Being fair to her I think she's a pretty decent person, despite being half Dutch.

And yes that might be because she was also born in Bedford.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
are you having a go at the dutch?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

crispix posted:

are you having a go at the dutch?

buddy they're the reason you speak this cursed language we call English rather than your native [checks notes] gale gay?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
My uncle, who is dead now so can't be done for anything, was a train driver and had done amazing stories.

Train coming into station without a driver, they had to go back looking for him and found a body. But then he got up, he'd just been drunk and fallen out of the cab.

Also bouncing a train off some buffers and derailing it. Rather than reporting it which would of been a big deal, they just powered it back on the rails.

Rip terrible train driver

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Tesseraction posted:

Being fair to her I think she's a pretty decent person, despite being half Dutch.

And yes that might be because she was also born in Bedford.

Fellow Bedfordian reporting in

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Bedford is incredibly unincredible.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The guy who founded the KKK was named after one of the parks there.

Deathslinger
Jul 12, 2022

https://twitter.com/labourlewis/status/1664719250412515328?s=20

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Jippa posted:

When football fans are anti semitic it's not that subtle. Like hissing and singing "spurs are on their way to auschwitz" etc.

Chelsea fans mostly, not football fans in Britain as a whole.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

smellmycheese posted:

Fellow Bedfordian reporting in

ayyyyy

Guavanaut posted:

The guy who founded the KKK was named after one of the parks there.

legit makes me annoyed that oval office stole our name

I still find it hilarious that Massachussetts has both Bedford and New Bedford, and I really hope both cities loving hate each other.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Do people from Bedford at least get to make "3 in a Bedford" jokes?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I just remember Bridget Jones saying "I'm off to Bedfordshire" and being extremely confused, because while it's an obvious thing to anyone else, to someone who lives here it sounds redundant.

I am a sleepy bastard mind you

Jerkhammer
Mar 18, 2007
One-time thread pet, and sometime thread pet peeve, Owen Jones, has been making leftward, and anti-Labour, moves of late.
His latest youtube offering I feel is worth a watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NIzPwdc988

Note: I don't actually think Owen's moved left, but he's at least noticed Labour's moving reeallllyy rightwardly.

Jerkhammer fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jun 2, 2023

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

From reading comments on this and other tweets on the subject apparently he attended an event with Ken Loach.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
A good preview of the kind of open society we can expect if keith is allowed near the reins of power.

Asbos for watching films by the forbidden list of directors.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Can confirm the Dutch are terrible and if not for the English would be the worst.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Apparently it is anti-semitic to chant "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" at football matches.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/jun/01/football-must-finally-take-a-stand-against-antisemitism

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Bedford is incredibly unincredible.

I left Bedford at 18 for Brighton and that was some eye opener let me tell you

Kaveman
Jul 25, 2009

NEVER!!!


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

From reading comments on this and other tweets on the subject apparently he attended an event with Ken Loach.

And?

This isn't the bloody reason is it. He's being barred bc he's a socialist and didn't join the anti-Corbyn bandwagon (which is why they cancelled Ken Loach too).

The new stage version of I, Daniel Blake is currently sold out in Newcastle now. Tickets are like rocking horse poo poo. The average person doesn't care about labour party drama.

Plus the people who are actually on the list are unpopular party sycophants.

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
You can get away with kicking people out of the party to give opportunities for your toadies if you or they are charismatic or exciting.

If both of you are beige homunculi, though, your chosen candidate will be standing next to a stage in a year's time saying "This is all Jeremy Corbyn's fault"

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