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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

flavor.flv posted:

Suck my Xerox WorkCenter 4546 All in One Scanner Printer Fax Copier

Same but Commodore MPS 801.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Now, about scanners

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Mustek a lot of balls to stan for a scanner

Chainclaw
Feb 14, 2009

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Now, about scanners

We had a handheld scanner in the 1990s and it was awful. If you sped up or slowed down while moving your hand and the scanner, the scanned document would come out stretched.

Something like this:

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
That looks exactly like the scanner my friend had that produced endless hilarity when we all tried to scan our school photos so we could show people on IRC what we looked like, minus half our nose or the tops of our heads or similar

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I have some tolerance for the "insert a USB stick, get a PDF" scanners in office-sized multifunction machines, not having to connect to it from a PC takes away most of the normal avenues for pain.

Barcode scanners, too - but those just show up as USB keyboard anyway. At least the non-hateful ones.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Chainclaw posted:

We had a handheld scanner in the 1990s and it was awful. If you sped up or slowed down while moving your hand and the scanner, the scanned document would come out stretched.

Something like this:



They were good enough. (And you could do cool effects!)

But yeah no-one misses them.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
They had some nice scanners at Xerox. One was 120 ppm simultaneous duplex (so I guess 240 ipm?). I think it might have been grayscale only.

I only used it once, but it took me longer to walk over to the machine than to scan some 500 page doc.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Computer viking posted:

I have some tolerance for the "insert a USB stick, get a PDF" scanners in office-sized multifunction machines, not having to connect to it from a PC takes away most of the normal avenues for pain.

Barcode scanners, too - but those just show up as USB keyboard anyway. At least the non-hateful ones.

My Bizhub C224e is a fucken tank and does stapling too which is really neat. to load staples its literally a big slab of straight staples and it bends them accordingly at time of printing. It's also the most painless to setup over the network I have ever had. The OINE thing I don't like is I never trust if it is still set to greyscale. I think this is due to Adobe and Microsoft fuckery but I always have to check.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




https://youtu.be/SDdfs0XW1kM

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

I have a Laserjet P1006 from 2012 inherited from my old workplace; the toner cartridge has never needed replacement. After concluding I would never find an affordable printer that printed directly on disc media, I lucked into this highly-regarded monstrosity on the yard sale table at work and bought it for $5. A box containing four generic cartridge refills for every single tank cost $22 and prints gorgeously. As a bonus, I can remove the electronics from inside and it will be a cozy little house for our family of 3.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I brought my first classic compact Mac today - a 1989 Macintosh Classic. A dual high density floppy drives (not sure on their working condition) model with a 80MB SCSI HDD.


It needs a good clean down. The seller said it used to be owned by his best friend who passed away. The seller had powered it up and said it works.


Dust and grime but seems pretty complete. It is missing the PDS plate on the rear of the case.


Thankfully no battery bomb damage. That was the main thing I was worried about, as the capacitors used on the SE were tantalum and didn't leak


That is one drat old PRAM battery

Tomorrow's weather is going to be crap, so going to be giving this old thing a big clean down and install a new PRAM battery.

Snackmar
Feb 23, 2005

I'M PROGRAMMED TO LOVE THIS CHOCOLATY CAKE... MY CIRCUITS LIGHT UP FOR THAT FUDGY ICING.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

They were good enough. (And you could do cool effects!)

But yeah no-one misses them.

I once used a Logitech ScanMan to scan someone's tattoo, that was the only neat thing I ever did with a handheld scanner

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting



Gave the Mac SE an interior clean down, including pulling the floppy drives out and cleaning and lubing the moving parts in them. Still haven't tested the drives.


Boots up! God it was a pain reassembling it, was always frightened of damaging the CRT in it (I had properly discharged it) while putting the hard drive back into it. Everything is so tight in it with the dual floppy drives. God only knows how Mac techs worked on these back in the day.


The 80MB SCSI drive still works, no errors or strange noises. Going to find a way to clone/image the drive so I can put in a Blue SCSI

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

You Am I posted:



Gave the Mac SE an interior clean down, including pulling the floppy drives out and cleaning and lubing the moving parts in them. Still haven't tested the drives.


Boots up! God it was a pain reassembling it, was always frightened of damaging the CRT in it (I had properly discharged it) while putting the hard drive back into it. Everything is so tight in it with the dual floppy drives. God only knows how Mac techs worked on these back in the day.


The 80MB SCSI drive still works, no errors or strange noises. Going to find a way to clone/image the drive so I can put in a Blue SCSI

SCSI can be daisy chained, so just get a SCSI cable with 2 connectors, and stick a BlueSCSI in there with the hard drive, copy the contents on to the bluescsi and you’ll be all set. No need to clone it beforehand. Alternatively you could use an external bluescsi instead and do it that way.

An alternative to the bluescsi is the PiSCSI (formerly known as rascsi) which is a raspberry pi hat that can act as an internal or external scsi emulator for all kinds of scsi devices beyond just hard drives. It can act as a cd rom or even a network card. I use a rascsi with all of my compact macs specifically because of its network card capabilities.

PiSCSI is also pretty nice because if you ever want to manage what files are on there you can do it from a web browser instead of having to open the machine and pop out the SD card. With PiSCSI you can go to a web page, paste the url of any file (say from macintosh garden) and it will download that file straight to the PiSCSI and mount a virtual cd rom image containing that file directly on your mac.

Edit: PiSCSI does have the unfortunate requirement of needing to have a raspberry pi on hand or being able to get one for a reasonable price somewhere.

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I got a BlueSCSI from a friend who didn't use it.

Sadly all the SCSI cables I have had one connection on them, and I don't have an external SCSI drive enclosure. Managed to get some of the data across by connecting the drive to my G3 PowerMac that runs 9.2, as the G4 PowerMac I was going to use runs OSX 10.5 and it didn't want anything to do with the Mac SE's HDD. I did have to format an USB stick drive with HFS so the resource links wouldn't be broken when transferring from the G3 to the G4

After a couple of hours of playing around with Basilisk and System 7.1 VMs, I got the BlueSCSI running on the Mac SE. I misread somewhere that mentioned that Macs use SCSI ID 7, thinking that the drive had to be set to ID 7 for it to boot. But no, you can not set a SCSI drive to ID 7 full stop.





r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Yeah ID 7 is the computer, so technically it's correct

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Remounted the floppy drives in the SE, so disks can go into the drives. Looks like both drives suffer from the disintegrating gear that plagues these drives. One day I might get around to buying the replacement gear for the drives, but I don't have any original software on floppy for this era of Mac so it is easier to do stuff via the SD card

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




You Am I posted:

I got a BlueSCSI from a friend who didn't use it.

Sadly all the SCSI cables I have had one connection on them, and I don't have an external SCSI drive enclosure. Managed to get some of the data across by connecting the drive to my G3 PowerMac that runs 9.2, as the G4 PowerMac I was going to use runs OSX 10.5 and it didn't want anything to do with the Mac SE's HDD. I did have to format an USB stick drive with HFS so the resource links wouldn't be broken when transferring from the G3 to the G4

After a couple of hours of playing around with Basilisk and System 7.1 VMs, I got the BlueSCSI running on the Mac SE. I misread somewhere that mentioned that Macs use SCSI ID 7, thinking that the drive had to be set to ID 7 for it to boot. But no, you can not set a SCSI drive to ID 7 full stop.







I love the look of the early 1-bit Mac UI. Nice and crisp and clean.

That spreadsheet program looks like it would be easy to use even today.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


OMGGGGGGGGGGG I've never really felt the need to actually build the stuff LMNC makes but this time...

In this video he mentions ReBirth RB338 can be controlled fully by MIDI-in. Now I wanna hardware emulate the software emulator of the official hardware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRyP5YrfsIk

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
If you really want a hardware rebirth clone you could also just grab the Behringer x0x clones:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gVWISU4tzM

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


snorch posted:

If you really want a hardware rebirth clone you could also just grab the Behringer x0x clones:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-gVWISU4tzM

Cheers, but its not Rebirth. I spent a LOT of time with that program back in the day wishing for two mouses.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001
Ah yeah, good ol' Mega Bass.

Mantle
May 15, 2004


Lately I've been having age shock thinking about these things that seem so vivid in my memory but are from 30 years ago. If I think about 30 years before this ad, it would be like being nostalgic about something from before the space race.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019
Was Mega Bass, like, an actual thing that did something? Comparing it to my other cassette players at the time, it sounded normal when it was on and like the bass was intentionally dropped to nothing when it was off rather than actually making something mega.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dip Viscous posted:

Was Mega Bass, like, an actual thing that did something?

I think it was a sprite comic

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Oh dear. Umm.



The SE/30 was being sold near me, so I couldn't say no. Really.

Condition is unknown when I brought it, however cosmetically it is far far better than my SE. Like day and night.

Opening up the SE/30 and its internals are also in far better condition. It's like it has barely any use.



Logic board is in great condition. No battery bomb and very little leakage from the surface mount caps. Gave the board a clean down with isopropyl alcohol around the cap areas. Not going to power on the SE/30 until all the caps are replaced.



It has this network card in it, from what I can gather from it, it is a SI St NIC BD-031 network card with BNC, Thicknet and RJ45 connectors on it. And I can't find anything about it on the Interwebs.

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Dip Viscous posted:

Was Mega Bass, like, an actual thing that did something? Comparing it to my other cassette players at the time, it sounded normal when it was on and like the bass was intentionally dropped to nothing when it was off rather than actually making something mega.

It would increase the bass response of the amplifier circuits. However - because in general the bass response of playback heads and headphones wasn't great in many portable cassette players, the effect would be that the 'normal' bass roll off would be compensated and the sound would be more neutral with the bass boost turned on. I don't think it was intentional - just a result of keeping the devices relatively cheap.

Would you put such a system in a Sony WM-D6 (that super high quality professional thing) and use it with good quality over-ear headphones, you would have way too much bass.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Mantle posted:

Lately I've been having age shock thinking about these things that seem so vivid in my memory but are from 30 years ago. If I think about 30 years before this ad, it would be like being nostalgic about something from before the space race.

For some things that feeling makes a lot of sense. Something like a desktop computer went from scifi via wild experimentation into settling in a shape that's basically still around. A tower setup from 1993 running windows 3.x is at heart the same idea as a completely new one, but feels completely different than anything from 1973.

On the other hand, all these media players are probably going to feel ancient and weird to kids who grow up now and never use any portable electronics except their phone, so it is also just us being old and familiar with a certain style of stuff. I'm sure people who grew up with transistor radios and portable record players had similar feelings in the 80s about those feeling normal but the tube stuff from a few decades earlier feeling ancient.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mantle posted:

Lately I've been having age shock thinking about these things that seem so vivid in my memory but are from 30 years ago. If I think about 30 years before this ad, it would be like being nostalgic about something from before the space race.

I remember sitting at my little desk in the barracks ripping a Faith No More CD from my walkman to my Nokia 5510. My Section Commander couldn't imagine that my PHONE had internal storage for music/MP3s. He just thought I was all commed up with my wired handsfree.

2002. I also had a Gameboy Advance with Rainbow 6 in my map pocket.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

Dip Viscous posted:

Was Mega Bass, like, an actual thing that did something?

LimaBiker posted:

It would increase the bass response of the amplifier circuits. However - because in general the bass response of playback heads and headphones wasn't great in many portable cassette players, the effect would be that the 'normal' bass roll off would be compensated and the sound would be more neutral with the bass boost turned on.
This. It started off as a present EQ to compensate for the poor bass (and also treble) response of the tape head and stock headphones. But it also quickly turned into a marketing thing since bass was big in the early 90s.

I had a WM-EX102 which was a couple generations in and the Mega Bass switch was prominently on the front instead of the top like the AVLS and metal switches. Found this photo of it on eBay:

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Humphreys posted:

I remember sitting at my little desk in the barracks ripping a Faith No More CD from my walkman to my Nokia 5510. My Section Commander couldn't imagine that my PHONE had internal storage for music/MP3s. He just thought I was all commed up with my wired handsfree.

2002. I also had a Gameboy Advance with Rainbow 6 in my map pocket.

:hfive: Hell yeah! I loved my Nokia 3300 (US version with a full keyboard). https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=282

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

You Am I posted:

Oh dear. Umm.



The SE/30 was being sold near me, so I couldn't say no. Really.

Condition is unknown when I brought it, however cosmetically it is far far better than my SE. Like day and night.

Opening up the SE/30 and its internals are also in far better condition. It's like it has barely any use.



Logic board is in great condition. No battery bomb and very little leakage from the surface mount caps. Gave the board a clean down with isopropyl alcohol around the cap areas. Not going to power on the SE/30 until all the caps are replaced.



It has this network card in it, from what I can gather from it, it is a SI St NIC BD-031 network card with BNC, Thicknet and RJ45 connectors on it. And I can't find anything about it on the Interwebs.

SE30s are fantastic pieces of hardware. Get one of the expansion video cards for it and chain it to one of the Apple Color CRTs.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humbug Scoolbus posted:

SE30s are fantastic pieces of hardware. Get one of the expansion video cards for it and chain it to one of the Apple Color CRTs.

but then where will the ethernet card go??

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Pham Nuwen posted:

but then where will the ethernet card go??

Use an Appletalk to Ethernet converter dongle. I have a bunch and they are super easy to find

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Use an Appletalk to Ethernet converter dongle. I have a bunch and they are super easy to find

Not a bad idea, I'll look for one. Any recommended video cards? What do they usually cost?

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Pham Nuwen posted:

Not a bad idea, I'll look for one. Any recommended video cards? What do they usually cost?

https://lowendmac.com/video/pds/index.html

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




You Am I posted:

Oh dear. Umm.



The SE/30 was being sold near me, so I couldn't say no. Really.

Condition is unknown when I brought it, however cosmetically it is far far better than my SE. Like day and night.

Opening up the SE/30 and its internals are also in far better condition. It's like it has barely any use.



Logic board is in great condition. No battery bomb and very little leakage from the surface mount caps. Gave the board a clean down with isopropyl alcohol around the cap areas. Not going to power on the SE/30 until all the caps are replaced.



It has this network card in it, from what I can gather from it, it is a SI St NIC BD-031 network card with BNC, Thicknet and RJ45 connectors on it. And I can't find anything about it on the Interwebs.

Congrats! The SE/30’s are, in my mind, some of the best macs ever made. I’ve had one since like 2002 that I just can’t let go of.

Mine also has an Ethernet card that sounds a lot like yours. I should check what it actually is

Any video cards for it are going to be rare as heck and $$$.

My suggestion for things to get for it is to get a BMOW Mac Rominator 2. https://www.bigmessowires.com/mac-rom-inator-ii/

It fixes some issues with the stock rom and also has a copy of system 6 in rom so if (when) your hard drive dies or the scsi gets wonky, you can boot to the in-rom os to troubleshoot. Very worth the money.

E: I just looked at the BMOW page and the new ones come with system 7.1, even better!

Beve Stuscemi has a new favorite as of 23:18 on Jun 3, 2023

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
I think I posted the custom display case for my talking pyramid clock relics from the 80s, but I finally got around to editing the build process video. I think it turned out decent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZKu0xgSZY

If you do watch it, I'm happy to take suggestions on what I can do better. This is my second ever upload so I'm very much looking to improve.

(Not in a "I want to get sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends" or have dumbass YouTube face thumbnails on everything, but to make the videos more entertaining and/or informative.)

I'm leaning towards "maker" kinds of projects, where I will sometimes incorporate old tech like clocks and calculators. I'm absolutely not trying to copy actual vintage tech YouTubers that we usually post here.

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