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CelticPredator posted:Gamer was ahead of it’s time. If there’s a new N/T or just T movie I’m seeing it in theaters. Taylor is directing the Hellboy: The Crooked Man. He just finished filming it.
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Gripweed posted:I watched Hail, Caesar! At first I was like this is fantastic, why do people call this a lesser Coen? Because No Country For Old Men and the Big Lebowski are so great that even Hail, Caesar can't measure up to them.
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Gripweed posted:I watched Hail, Caesar! At first I was like this is fantastic, why do people call this a lesser Coen? But by the end I got it. I think the main problems are that Alden Errenreich delivers way too good of a performance, he pulls the emotional core of the movie to him but the movie isn't structured to work with that. And the by far least interesting plotline, the kidnapping, takes up the bulk of the runtime. I agree. I enjoyed it but it doesn’t quite work.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I’ve been a very lax dog owner but its fine because my dog weighs 4 lbs. and is afraid of everything (particularly flies! he gets so upset he pukes if there’s a fly in the apt). He can’t be outside without close supervision because an osprey or owl will literally take him. I had a lab when I was a kid who didn't like people or other dogs, she would flip out and yelp and snarl. It was such a pain in the rear end to walk her because people would be like "oh I love dogs" or "my dog is super friendly" and it's tough to convince them that my dog is kinda a piece of poo poo, they really wanna interact with her, and regret it and are super apologetic
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https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7239883020612767019 “It could be a true story”
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Turned to cats. My man is adorqbly asleep for about twenty hours a day but for four he's either crying for food or giving me dead rats
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Alhazred posted:Because No Country For Old Men and the Big Lebowski are so great that even Hail, Caesar can't measure up to them. But those are both mid tier Coens?
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Jun 3, 2023 12:50
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Gripweed posted:But those are both mid tier Coens? What in the world is this take.
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Timby posted:What in the world is this take. Correct. A Serious Man is the S-Tier Coen.
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Jun 3, 2023 12:52
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Edward Mass posted:We need a film adaptation of Urinetown and a musical adaptation of Little Miss Sunshine. Good news! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Miss_Sunshine_(musical) (They even got the book writer/director of Sunday in the Park With George to work on it!) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFBsR4X5Xno1QiO5jNmAasuZsT8KH9U55 <--- Cast recording My favorite film musicals are either animated or Singin' in the Rain. Live-action musicals don't tend to work well for me for, a lot of reasons - the recent filmed version of Matilda got it right, especially with the School Song and The Hammer. I think you could make a killer animated Follies where the present day is in color and the past is in black and white.
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Gripweed posted:Correct. A Serious Man is the S-Tier Coen. A Serious Man is indeed S-tier Coen. As are Lebowski and No Country and a half-dozen others, like Raising Arizona, True Grit, Inside Llewyn Davis, Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing and O Brother.
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It's tough to say, but O Brother blows everything else out of the water.
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A Serious Man is so loving good. That and Fargo/Lebowski are my personal holy trinity, with Llewyn and No Country rounding out the top 5, but I love almost all of their movies, of course.
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Escobarbarian posted:A Serious Man is so loving good. That and Fargo/Lebowski are my personal holy trinity, with Llewyn and No Country rounding out the top 5, but I love almost all of their movies, of course. The only Coen Brothers movies I don't outright love are Intolerable Cruelty and The Ladykillers, both of which do absolutely nothing for me (even though there are a few good gags in Intolerable Cruelty). Admittedly, I haven't seen Joel's version of MacBeth, as I don't have AppleTV+, nor have I seen Ethan's solo efforts. But as a directorial team, they have very, very few misfires. I revisited Miller's Crossing for the first time in a while earlier this year when I was in a spat of depression, and sweet Jesus it's so amazing in every way.
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I've seen most, but not all, their stuff (no No Country, Llewellyn Davies or A Serious Man), but my favourites would have to be Burn After Reading, Miller's Crossing and... The Hudsucker Proxy.
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Sounds like you've got a drat good triple feature ahead of you tonight.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I've seen most, but not all, their stuff (no No Country, Llewellyn Davies or A Serious Man), but my favourites would have to be Burn After Reading, Miller's Crossing and... The Hudsucker Proxy. My dude you know me, you trust me, watch all three of those movies asap
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Lol holy poo poo I wish I was you
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I've still got Hudsucker and Arizona in my back pocket for a rainy day. e: I feel it's very important to keep a handful of S-Tier movies unwatched for as long as possible so that I never run out of all-timers. Then I drip-feed myself a few over time when I'm in a movie rut. But in doing so expectations can be tough—RoboCop was not at all what I expected and it wasn't until the second time I watched it that I fell in love. I was expecting something much more akin to Terminator 2 rather than The Terminator, for some reason. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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Timby posted:
I still remember Ethan's review of MacBeth, movie has been worth it just for that.
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I need to rewatch A Serious Man because I didn’t like it. Didn’t like BAR first time either but enjoyed it a lot a second. My favourite Coen’s and one of my all-time faves is The Man Who Wasn’t There, which hasn’t even been mentioned yet! I really like Intolerable Cruelty too, actually. Didn’t love No Country, loved Fargo, Lebowski, Millers, Hudsucker, O Brother…
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I think my hottest Coen take is that No Country is simply A-tier, it feels like it’s retreading Fargo a little too much, and it doesn’t bring anything as good as the TruCoat scene. My Coen Holy Trinity is Fargo, The Big Lebowski, and probably Raising Arizona, but that last one could change around a lot.Gripweed posted:But those are both mid tier Coens? Mods????
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I didn’t like Raising Arizona very much when I first watched it when I was like 17. I thought it was frequently too stupid and I hated the biker character. I didn’t bother to rewatch it until…..uhh……well, just now based off this discussion. Turns out it’s really good! It won’t ever be one of my favourite Coens, but it’s mostly stupid in a very very smart way, the dialogue is exceptional, and the filmmaking is wildly good especially during the action scenes. O Brother and The Man Who Wasn’t There are the two I really need to rewatch, I don’t remember them well at all, especially the former. My memory of Hudsucker is that the first half or so is a near-perfect screwball homage and then it kinda runs out of steam. Burn After Reading is the ultimate “gets better on rewatch” movie
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the thing is apart from The Ladykillers and Intolerable Cruelty, pretty much every Coen Brothers movie was at least arguably the best movie of the year it came out so even their mid-tier stuff is pretty great. for me the mid tier is like, Buster Scruggs which i only really liked half of and Hail Caesar which is still really fun but kinda insubstantial i'll also say that as otherwise bad as The Ladykillers is it might have my favorite Tom Hanks performance
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Buster Scruggs is like 1/3 top-tier 1/3 pretty good 1/3 mid as hell
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Escobarbarian posted:Buster Scruggs is like 1/3 top-tier 1/3 pretty good 1/3 mid as hell agreed although the fun thing i have noticed is nobody seems to agree on which segments are which
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Watched the documentary about Natalia Grace and her adoptive family (the inspiration for The Orphan) and it made me like The Orphan 2 even more because it was actually far closer to the truth than what the psychopathic family’s story which skews almost beat for beat with the first film. IRL she actually was 6 years old, the abusive parents changed her age to 22 by coaching the child to say that to doctors. The dad is one of the most transparently bad characters pretending to be the good guy by seemingly using stage acting as a front. Bizarre as hell. Highly recommend. Its on the ID channel and MAX i think.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:agreed although the fun thing i have noticed is nobody seems to agree on which segments are which Hmm well I haven’t seen it since it came out but: Top-tier: Buster Scruggs Tom waits one (aka gold prospector) Pretty good: Liam neeson one (aka limbless reciter) Brendan Gleeson one (aka carriage ride) Mid as hell: James Franco one (aka “first time?”) The one where the dog leads that woman into an ambush
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The Franco one is such a shame, because it has potential. Based on the trailer (and the meme line) I really wanted it to be a folk tale about a guy who has managed to dodge death through pure good luck again and again and again. I guess that's some headcanon poo poo I made up, though.
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Jay Rust posted:Hmm well I haven’t seen it since it came out but: mine is basically this except i'd swap the carriage ride one for the james franco one - which is kind of a major problem for the movie for me cuz then it ends with its two worst segments the Zoe Kazan one isn't bad but its placement in the movie feels off. i kind of straight up hate the carriage ride one, it feels like a first draft they wrote way early in their career. but i've heard some people cite that one as their favorite.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:which is kind of a major problem for the movie for me cuz then it ends with its two worst segments This was my problem with French Dispatch. Not only does it end on far and away the worst segment, it's also excruciatingly long compared to the others.
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Honestly I was so turned off by the native american stuff in buster scruggs, call me a boring lib but I kept thinking “oh you guys are just gonna play this stuff straight huh, that’s a yikes”
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feedmyleg posted:This was my problem with French Dispatch. Not only does it end on far and away the worst segment, it's also excruciatingly long compared to the others. Upon rewatch I appreciated that section a LOT more. I still don’t dig the middle one so much, though.
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Watched No Country For Old Men. Deakins made some very beautiful art, and the sound design and editing are fantastic. Incredibly tense film. Amused that Chigurh is something of a moral deTerminator. Not sure what to make of it though, which is probably the point. My current thinking on the film comcerns the two sequences where strangers barter their shirts away, in that despite their similarities between the scenes there's no real connection between them, and attempting to link the two together beyond coincidence is a fool's errand. They're just things that happen. And that the universe of the film is made up of events which happen, logically and in succession, for their own independent reasons outside of a greater, narratively satisfying plan. So Tommy Lee Jones' reactionary read on the world is just as false as Brolin's (anti-)heroic fantasy he imagines himself embroiled in. Chigurh doesn't necessarily fit with that read, but does he have to? He's inconsistent when he wants to be. It's a lot. It's good but it's a lot. Also I stayed up late to watch this and am very tired, so if this reads as nonsense I apologise hahah Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:Watched the documentary about Natalia Grace and her adoptive family (the inspiration for The Orphan) and it made me like The Orphan 2 even more because it was actually far closer to the truth than what the psychopathic family’s story which skews almost beat for beat with the first film. IRL she actually was 6 years old, the abusive parents changed her age to 22 by coaching the child to say that to doctors. The dad is one of the most transparently bad characters pretending to be the good guy by seemingly using stage acting as a front. Bizarre as hell. Highly recommend. Its on the ID channel and MAX i think. I feel like the adoption story of the adoptee having bad vibes is always presented as ideological cover for the adoption industry, which at best is just a fundie human trafficking scheme.
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The Tom Waits part of Buster Scruggs was the only good part. And this is coming from someone who is so enthusiastic about Coen poo poo that I saw it in a theater.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The Tom Waits part of Buster Scruggs was the only good part. And this is coming from someone who is so enthusiastic about Coen poo poo that I saw it in a theater. i do love the Tom Waits one but for me The Ballad of Buster Scruggs never really improves on The Ballad of Buster Scruggs. i love the mix of wacky Roy Rogers singing cowboy and Cormac McCarthy nihilistic violence.
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The amputee performer segment just tanks Buster Scruggs. I like some of the segments fine, the title segment is great, but that one is an absolute dirge and drags on and on and on.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I feel like the adoption story of the adoptee having bad vibes is always presented as ideological cover for the adoption industry, which at best is just a fundie human trafficking scheme. Its truly depraved poo poo
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I agree on the carriage segment being on the low end of the Scruggs ranking. The actors are fun enough to watch that I don't think it's terrible but it's otherwise just not very interesting. I also didn't much care for "The Girl Who Got Rattled" because the whole thing kind of feels like a waste of time by the end. I like the other segments, especially the Waits one, but the titular Ballad might have worked better elsewhere in the movie because the rest of the shorts can't help but feel lacking in comparison to strong opening.
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