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Arbite posted:Also, for reasons that seemed to be inertia more than anything else, Russia kept pointing to the UK as one of if not the the key architects of opposition however big a shambles Whitehall seemed to be. They have been afraid of the British ever since their fishing boats attacked the Russian fleet back in 1904. 
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Jun 4, 2023 12:36
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Just Another Lurker posted:They have been afraid of the British ever since their fishing boats attacked the Russian fleet back in 1904. This is the perfect time for Armando Ianucci to make a film about the Second Pacific Squadron. I can just picture Hugh Laurie as Rozhestvensky, chucking one set of binoculars after another...
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Jun 4, 2023 13:05
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https://twitter.com/PaulaChertok/status/1665124511346470912?t=9slS3I2cRStjlXXzwxAMeg&s=19 Imagine bringing some kids to safety and not even getting a new fidge for your dacha out of it
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Jun 4, 2023 13:06
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665315263091277824 but they promised to not call us for military service against our will
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Jun 4, 2023 13:32
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zone posted:Total breakdown of law and order successfully happened. Widespread looting of homes and businesses by local Russians who haven't run has been going on for a while now. "Total breakdown", "widespread"
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Jun 4, 2023 13:44
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Strategic Tea posted:I think a contributor is that regardless of how much money the politicos take, the civil service and the military/intelligence establishment are ferociously anti Russian. If you think Iran is antagonistic towards the UK solely because it serves as a convenient stand in for the Great Satan(tm) you should probably look into Iranian history a bit more
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Jun 4, 2023 13:52
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Also Iran has never been particularly antagonistic towards Europe, it's a major trade partner; if Britain's relationship with Iran is worse than that of the eu, is entirely the UK's doing.
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Jun 4, 2023 13:57
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fatherboxx posted:"Total breakdown", "widespread" Well, that glass is totally broken down and merchandise has been widely spread across the geographical area.
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Jun 4, 2023 13:59
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Russia firebombing their own citizens has to be the most  thing yet. And not as in those people over there are actually ours, we will invade and firebomb them in the process, but as in o poo poo special military operation coming into our own back yard let's firebomb the poo poo out of it
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Jun 4, 2023 14:04
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Roblo posted:I used to eat my lunch on the bench that the Skirpals were found on back when i was in college. Those attacks (especially with how blatant/brazen they were, including killing British citizens) and the Litvinenko killing, really pissed a lot of people off. As a former Salisbury local myself the impact of this attack can not be underestimated. Everyone I know has very strong opinions about the use of chemical weapons and to be clear, the tit for tat Russian style attacks on defectors may be one thing if all you were doing was going around throwing them out of windows but this was a real "gently caress you" attack not just on the Skirpals but on the emergency responders that dealt with the incident and the poor lady who found some perfume in Lizzie gardens and sprayed it on her skin. The lack of concern for collateral damage was astounding, almost as if installing that fear was part of the plan. I cant talk to my family about the war in Ukraine without the Salisbury poisonings being mentioned so I would say it's very relevant to the UK mindset on this conflict. I live in the midlands now in the pro-brexit heartlands and I'm truly impressed at the amount of Ukrainian flags being flown and yellow and blue ribbon around garden fenceposts.
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Jun 4, 2023 15:28
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free hubcaps posted:If you think Iran is antagonistic towards the UK solely because it serves as a convenient stand in for the Great Satan(tm) you should probably look into Iranian history a bit more Yeah gulaging random visitors on spying charges for political bargaining points is not a reasonable response to past colonialism. Fortunately Iran isn't antagonistic; 100 senile Iranian priests are antagonistic
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Jun 4, 2023 15:42
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Isn't Iran still salty about the whole Anglo-Persian coup thing. Anyway  Is it the same guy from earlier like when that gym got leveled up on NYE?
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Jun 4, 2023 16:35
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GABA ghoul posted:https://twitter.com/PaulaChertok/status/1665124511346470912?t=9slS3I2cRStjlXXzwxAMeg&s=19 That's what, $38usd to save your kid? Jesus. I spent more than that on drinks and dinner last night. I get that $38usd has different buying power than 3,000rubles anywhere you'd spend it but goddamn.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:04
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mobby_6kl posted:Isn't Iran still salty about the whole Anglo-Persian coup thing. Well, one can't blame them for it.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:09
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chainchompz posted:That's what, $38usd to save your kid? Jesus. I spent more than that on drinks and dinner last night. I get that $38usd has different buying power than 3,000rubles anywhere you'd spend it but goddamn. Its not the amount of money, its the Russian mindset and attitude where the officials are squeezing out money from people for getting something they should be getting for free. That, combined with the fact that no-one in the public even considers the option of greasing the ropes and sharpening the guillotine blades to deal with these officials, who are publicly refusing to do their job, evacuate children from an active warzone, unless their pockets are stuffed with bribes and handouts.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:16
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Ukraine's latest batch of trench animals is ready for the counteroffensive https://i.imgur.com/AI9fYJx.mp4
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Jun 4, 2023 17:19
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Der Kyhe posted:Its not the amount of money, its the Russian mindset and attitude where the officials are squeezing out money from people for getting something they should be getting for free. That, combined with the fact that no-one in the public even considers the option of greasing the ropes and sharpening the guillotine blades to deal with these officials, who are publicly refusing to do their job, evacuate children from an active warzone, unless their pockets are stuffed with bribes and handouts. Gotcha, yeah I was perplexed at it and not seeing it as a bribe.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:23
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ishikabibble posted:'tankie' as a term was spawned because of the Communist Party of Great Britain supporting the USSR quashing rebellions in Warsaw Pact countries It's all dumb contrarian "NO gently caress U DAD" ride off with the leather clad badboy who owns a motorcycle just to piss off mom crap. The difference is Betty Altright really actually loves that leather clad badboy wants to murder trans people with a spiked bat, and Dotty Tankie covers her ears and eyes and LA LA LAs really loud when the same thing is being done. For Dotty the important thing is mom and dad are positively fuming.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:35
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Grape posted:It's all dumb contrarian "NO gently caress U DAD" ride off with the leather clad badboy who owns a motorcycle just to piss off mom crap. lol
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Jun 4, 2023 17:39
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Y'see, leftist authoritarians walk like this, but far right authoritarians walk like this
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Jun 4, 2023 17:41
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/rochowanski/status/1664481766713835520 This guy's central thesis is that the west hates Russia for moving back toward being a very Orthodox Christian country. Thus explaining their likewise militant hatred for uh... NATO members Greece and Romania? I have nothing.
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Jun 4, 2023 17:52
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Said it before a million times - I would love to see a genuine WAR BAD!! tank enjoyer sit in a room and try to explain to someone from Kosovo how the American military is BAD!! and NATO is BAD!!
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Jun 4, 2023 18:04
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Grape posted:This guy's central thesis is that the west hates Russia for moving back toward being a very Orthodox Christian country. Thus explaining their likewise militant hatred for uh... NATO members Greece and Romania? I have nothing. What about freaking Ukraine?! IT'S an Orthodox country, too! What is wrong with these people?!
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Jun 4, 2023 18:06
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Samovar posted:What about freaking Ukraine?! IT'S an Orthodox country, too! What is wrong with these people?! clearly the wrong kind of orthodox
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Jun 4, 2023 18:15
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America bad Taiwan independence bad Russian annexation of Donbas good
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Jun 4, 2023 18:16
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Toxic Mental posted:Said it before a million times - I would love to see a genuine WAR BAD!! tank enjoyer sit in a room and try to explain to someone from Kosovo how the American military is BAD!! and NATO is BAD!! Like in Brain Candy they go into stasis focused only on the single formative memory of showing up on the first day of Collegiate US History 101 with their books already wrapped in red white and blue and their "Order of the Arrow" eagle scout t-shirt and their filthy, smoking unkempt TA laughing a long donkey laugh in their clueless, patriotic face before the class even started.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:32
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Found a really good little article about Ukraine's attacks in Russia Ukraine’s attacks on Russia are a calculated gamble https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2023/06/02/commentary/world-commentary/ukraine-russia-attacks/ "The tactic is a gamble with a transparent short-term military upside and a potential long-term psychological downside, which Ukraine has managed to avoid so far by keeping the civilian casualties low."
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Jun 4, 2023 18:38
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Toxic Mental posted:Said it before a million times - I would love to see a genuine WAR BAD!! tank enjoyer sit in a room and try to explain to someone from Kosovo how the American military is BAD!! and NATO is BAD!! I have seen this in person and it was told to a Serb by a Kosovan so that went about as well as you would imagine I also love the chaos in Bilhorod. Frothing disease and confusion to your enemies!
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Jun 4, 2023 18:40
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Toxic Mental posted:Said it before a million times - I would love to see a genuine WAR BAD!! tank enjoyer sit in a room and try to explain to someone from Kosovo how the American military is BAD!! and NATO is BAD!! I know an American tankie here, genuinely thinks the USSR was a great place and all. In a few weeks he'll be going on a trip to Latvia, I pray to all that is holy that he tries to enlighten the locals while he's there.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:45
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spankmeister posted:Taking a little break from nuke chat to post a Meduza article.Meduza is a Russian oppositional publication, but even they have people in their reader base who support the war. They asked them to write in why: Guess nobody read this, because I messed up the link and nobody said anything lmao. I've fixed it.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:46
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spankmeister posted:Guess nobody read this, because I messed up the link and nobody said anything lmao. I've fixed it. You provided a very helpful tl;dr so I think I got the idea without having to suffer through vatnik  ing
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Jun 4, 2023 18:48
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Toxic Mental posted:Said it before a million times - I would love to see a genuine WAR BAD!! tank enjoyer sit in a room and try to explain to someone from Kosovo how the American military is BAD!! and NATO is BAD!! Obviously the only reason these people don't accept that their death is necessary for the betterment of world and history, is that they are too primitive to understand enlightened discourse, unlike me, an American. So their protests must be ignored, and actually prove my point.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:52
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NihilCredo posted:I know an American tankie here, genuinely thinks the USSR was a great place and all. In a few weeks he'll be going on a trip to Latvia, I pray to all that is holy that he tries to enlighten the locals while he's there. Brilliant, I hope he's drunk and belligerent while he does it
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Jun 4, 2023 18:54
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steinrokkan posted:Obviously the only reason these people don't accept that their death is necessary for the betterment of world and history, is that they are too primitive to understand enlightened discourse, unlike me, an American. That's what gets me the most about the tankies. Their total lack of respect for Ukraine's agency. Poor little Ukrainians, goaded into a war with their brethren by perfidious America. Like they don't even exist as people.
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Jun 4, 2023 18:55
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spankmeister posted:That's what gets me the most about the tankies. Their total lack of respect for Ukraine's agency. Poor little Ukrainians, goaded into a war with their brethren by perfidious America. Like they don't even exist as people. Yeah, it's so incredibly self involved. That entire separate country cannot possibly have agency outside the rus/us/cn system that all their conflict has to be reliant on some "global" plan, rather than "holy poo poo we just got invaded"
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Jun 4, 2023 18:59
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spankmeister posted:That's what gets me the most about the tankies. Their total lack of respect for Ukraine's agency. Poor little Ukrainians, goaded into a war with their brethren by perfidious America. Like they don't even exist as people. Its more a general attitude in my opinion. "Those Eastern Europeans sure are racists to all hate the Russians and their opinions do not matter because this podcast I am listening to tells me all I need to know." isn't exactly an unheard position to take.
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Jun 4, 2023 19:00
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Der Kyhe posted:Its more a general attitude in my opinion. "Those Eastern Europeans sure are racists to all hate the Russians and their opinions do not matter because this podcast I am listening to tells me all I need to know." isn't exactly an unheard position to take. People just can't conceive that maybe their side wasn't involved
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Jun 4, 2023 19:07
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Perfidious capitalist west! The economics of despair! I say geniusly, cheering for an entire country's eradication because I "like" another country's... [double takes my clipboard] economic model from 50 years ago that doesn't even exist anymore No further reflection necessary!
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Jun 4, 2023 19:37
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It's just American Exceptionalism. The concerns of Europeans are necessarily subservient to the enlightened thoughts of the American Twitterata. And in a way they aren't totally wrong. The pro-Russia culture war poo poo is being imported from America to Germany right now, and American fascists along with Russia have given ample support to the AfD and even dictated the talking points the other right wing dipshits are using – see for reference the recent meeting of CSU politicians with DeSantis, or the CDU suddenly talking about "woke" and calling Ukrainian refugees "welfare tourists". Violence against minorities is on the rise, and the rhetoric used to dehumanise them is a straight import from the US of A.
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Jun 4, 2023 19:45
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NihilCredo posted:I know an American tankie here, genuinely thinks the USSR was a great place and all. In a few weeks he'll be going on a trip to Latvia, I pray to all that is holy that he tries to enlighten the locals while he's there. one of my better online buddies is a hungarian who is old enough to remember what hungary was like under the USSR and the burns he lays on discord tankies warm my cockles on the coldest nights
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