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Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
this thread is the only third space left

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RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Gravid Topiary posted:

guys it's going to be okay because check out this caterpillar i encountered

no ironic twist, it turns into a nice little black-and-white moth that drinks nectar

and.... its extinct.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
cringe

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

OH gently caress IT'S COMING THIS WAY GET INSIDE

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.
Bracing for another round of this poo poo again.

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

STOP FILMING GET INSIDE NOW

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

cringepillar spinning a cringe cocoon

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

Tungsten posted:

STOP FILMING GET INSIDE NOW

Only registered members can see post attachments!

The337th
Mar 30, 2011


the cringe in the ocean is 0.4 degrees higher than its ever been in recorded history

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

the cringeberries

cash crab
Apr 5, 2015

all the time i am eating from the trashcan. the name of this trashcan is ideology


Gravid Topiary posted:

cringepillar spinning a cringe cocoon

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

a beautiful doomerfly fluttering from dead plant to dead plant, briefly lighting on a pile of bones.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Gravid Topiary posted:

guys it's going to be okay because check out this caterpillar i encountered

no ironic twist, it turns into a nice little black-and-white moth that drinks nectar

cool caterpillar

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

Microplastics posted:

Maybe our ugly industrial civilisation will turn into a beautiful butterfly too

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`
In other agricultural collapse topics, I'm currently working at a small nursery in Virginia and we are having huge issues with our crop due to Vascular Streak Dieback (VSD), which is a pathogenic fungus originally affecting cacao and occasionally avocado in Malaysia/Southeast Asia. Samuels et al. published a paper on it 13 years ago and in the time since, it seems to have crossed into North America.

Spores get into wounds in the plants like leaf scars or cracks in the bark (and most importantly to nurseries, graft wounds), then begin to grow and feed, killing the top of the plant and working its way into the main stem. As it progresses, the stem will become streaky, the normally bright green cambium turns black or brown and rots, and the internal plant becomes waterlogged and almost translucent as it struggles to keep moisture and nutrients flowing. These changes can only really be noted once the tree is too far gone. Most sources I can find seem to think it's only in a few states, but I would not be surprised if it is much more widespread.

The list of potential hosts is quite scary, not just for nursery industry workers, but just generally a bunch of major tentpole deciduous forest species and native species. Most articles focus on redbud, dogwood, and other ornamental species that are important to the nursery/landscaping industry, but VDACS has found it to be pathogenic to multiple other species including maples, magnolia, catalpa, hawthorn, witch alder & witch hazel, spicebush, plum/prunus, tulip poplars, sumac, lilac, and black gum. We are waiting on results from some 20 samples we sent to the lab.

Just from my experience there should be way more magnolias on the list, we've had to destroy almost our entire crop. We even suspect some of our oak trees have been infected. As you may be able to guess, more stressed plants are more susceptible. I think a huge part of the issue is that like 90% of our plants are clones, either by grafting or propagation. A lot of these are probably coming to us infected from suppliers in Tennessee and other hotbeds. But stuff we had shipped in from PANW also tested positive.

We are a pretty small operation and don't have the ability to burn or bury the massive amounts of plant waste as suggested, so our VDACS agent told us to just...throw it in the trash. Someone else's problem. We are also cleaning up affected trees/removing leaves and putting them in plastic bags. In the dumpster. We wipe our pruners between each tree though :downs:

We know for a fact other nurseries in this area have the same issue, but no one wants to talk about it for fear of impacting business. We have just been quietly pulling stock and destroying suspected carriers. Climatically speaking more droughts and odd weather patterns combined with this fun new pathogen could make for a potentially huge swath of forest species getting decimated, if it's able to make the jump.

The good-ish news is that it seems to be relatively short lived, at least when it's in Malaysia. The spores don't seem to travel far or live long outside the plant. No telling how it will fare as it gets out into more wild environments in North America. Hopefully genetically diverse forest trees with better overall health will be better able to fend off the fungus.

Maybe it's just an artifact of how stressful the average nursery is on a growing plant, and nothing more. But if it's not VSD, there's more of the same incoming I'm sure. Happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability, it's been a frustrating few weeks since I don't have any decisionmaking power at this place and we don't know a lot at this point. what choice do i have but to lol, lmao

Light reading list if anyone's interested:
https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/SPES/spes-483/spes-483.html
https://nurserymag.com/article/the-redbud-problem/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1878614611001437?via%3Dihub

QuickbreathFinisher has issued a correction as of 02:05 on Jun 6, 2023

a strange fowl
Oct 27, 2022

lol

Ghana imports about 15m items of secondhand clothing each week, known locally as obroni wawu or “dead white man’s clothes”.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

a strange fowl posted:

lol

Ghana imports about 15m items of secondhand clothing each week, known locally as obroni wawu or “dead white man’s clothes”.

lol that was also the part i highlighted to friends when i shared the article.

Hockenheim
Oct 20, 2022

by VG
Just saw this on cable and it was a real crack ping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4P4yBAJ-w

UKJeff
May 17, 2023

by vyelkin
LOL if you don’t have your house waterproofed already

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


how the heck does a paste flex thats what i wanna know

i wont be clicking the video to find out though

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Hockenheim posted:

Just saw this on cable and it was a real crack ping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4P4yBAJ-w

why don't they just build the whole house out of flexseal?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

The good-ish news is that it seems to be relatively short lived, at least when it's in Malaysia. The spores don't seem to travel far or live long outside the plant. No telling how it will fare as it gets out into more wild environments in North America. Hopefully genetically diverse forest trees with better overall health will be better able to fend off the fungus.

Maybe it's just an artifact of how stressful the average nursery is on a growing plant, and nothing more. But if it's not VSD, there's more of the same incoming I'm sure. Happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability, it's been a frustrating few weeks since I don't have any decisionmaking power at this place and we don't know a lot at this point. what choice do i have but to lol, lmao

well if i'm willing to bet on one thing: it's that there is no good news.

all the forests here in ca are dying off internally rotting from the inside out. just had a bunch of trees removed from our apartment building too because oops they were dead inside and gunna fall over

Soggy Muffin
Jul 29, 2003
Some guy I work with keeps telling me the only way to fix climate change is for everyone to go on a beef only diet. I made the mistake of debating him once like a year ago, and now he brings it up again or tries and show me some goofy poo poo from IG from some beef head influencer about how grass releases methane anyway and that cows absorb CO2. Apparently this is a big movement, probably started by Jordonson. This guy only eats beef and looks like absolute poo poo but says he’s never felt better while he’s sweating all the time and has dark circles under his eyes, always saying our ancestors only consumed ruminants. Hope he has a stroke or some poo poo tbh

Edit: he also says he won’t fall for vegetarian and vegan brainwashing when I bring up we need vegetables to be healthy. I’m like dude, you beef heads are way more annoying than they are

Soggy Muffin has issued a correction as of 03:20 on Jun 6, 2023

UKJeff
May 17, 2023

by vyelkin

Soggy Muffin posted:

Hope he has a stroke or some poo poo tbh

hosed up if true

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Stereotype posted:

all these fires just started at the same time by CHANCE?? no, it was the government so that they can blame gLoBaL WaRmInG and make more laws to restrict me

Saw that in the NSW fires a couple of years ago - fire service reported 65 fires were human caused, massive Australian blog-o-sphere shitstorm about greenies being arsonists. Drill down a bit and 4 were arson, the rest were dumbasses1 with cigarettes and smoking materials, among other things.

1Human dumbasses. Koalas don't smoke unless they can't move fast enough to get out of the way of the wildfire.

In Canada a cigarette brand only needs to successfully self-extinguish 75% of the time to qualify as self extinguishing. How do I know this? Making war on the rigpigs working out of the marshalling yard at the end of our road who were throwing their butts out the window before passing through the gate where smoking is prohibited. I hate my life.

Tungsten posted:

drat, the milk cow dried up. now who do i know who might be a witch?

It's okay, we have the technology to re-frac the cow now.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Soggy Muffin posted:

Some guy I work with keeps telling me the only way to fix climate change is for everyone to go on a beef only diet. I made the mistake of debating him once like a year ago, and now he brings it up again or tries and show me some goofy poo poo from IG from some beef head influencer about how grass releases methane anyway and that cows absorb CO2. Apparently this is a big movement, probably started by Jordonson. This guy only eats beef and looks like absolute poo poo but says he’s never felt better while he’s sweating all the time and has dark circles under his eyes, always saying our ancestors only consumed ruminants. Hope he has a stroke or some poo poo tbh

That's the dumbest poo poo I've ever heard

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
if we eat all the cows the polluting beef industry is over

the guy you work with Is Right

Soggy Muffin
Jul 29, 2003

UKJeff posted:

hosed up if true

You’re right I should allow this man to annoy me to death and wish no harm befalls him

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy


the drummer from slipknot?

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




sounds like the guy is advocating devouring cows to extinction tbh

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Hockenheim posted:

Just saw this on cable and it was a real crack ping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4P4yBAJ-w

this rules

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

In other agricultural collapse topics, I'm currently working at a small nursery in Virginia and we are having huge issues with our crop due to Vascular Streak Dieback (VSD), which is a pathogenic fungus originally affecting cacao and occasionally avocado in Malaysia/Southeast Asia. Samuels et al. published a paper on it 13 years ago and in the time since, it seems to have crossed into North America.

Spores get into wounds in the plants like leaf scars or cracks in the bark (and most importantly to nurseries, graft wounds), then begin to grow and feed, killing the top of the plant and working its way into the main stem. As it progresses, the stem will become streaky, the normally bright green cambium turns black or brown and rots, and the internal plant becomes waterlogged and almost translucent as it struggles to keep moisture and nutrients flowing. These changes can only really be noted once the tree is too far gone. Most sources I can find seem to think it's only in a few states, but I would not be surprised if it is much more widespread.

The list of potential hosts is quite scary, not just for nursery industry workers, but just generally a bunch of major tentpole deciduous forest species and native species. Most articles focus on redbud, dogwood, and other ornamental species that are important to the nursery/landscaping industry, but VDACS has found it to be pathogenic to multiple other species including maples, magnolia, catalpa, hawthorn, witch alder & witch hazel, spicebush, plum/prunus, tulip poplars, sumac, lilac, and black gum. We are waiting on results from some 20 samples we sent to the lab.

Just from my experience there should be way more magnolias on the list, we've had to destroy almost our entire crop. We even suspect some of our oak trees have been infected. As you may be able to guess, more stressed plants are more susceptible. I think a huge part of the issue is that like 90% of our plants are clones, either by grafting or propagation. A lot of these are probably coming to us infected from suppliers in Tennessee and other hotbeds. But stuff we had shipped in from PANW also tested positive.

We are a pretty small operation and don't have the ability to burn or bury the massive amounts of plant waste as suggested, so our VDACS agent told us to just...throw it in the trash. Someone else's problem. We are also cleaning up affected trees/removing leaves and putting them in plastic bags. In the dumpster. We wipe our pruners between each tree though :downs:

We know for a fact other nurseries in this area have the same issue, but no one wants to talk about it for fear of impacting business. We have just been quietly pulling stock and destroying suspected carriers. Climatically speaking more droughts and odd weather patterns combined with this fun new pathogen could make for a potentially huge swath of forest species getting decimated, if it's able to make the jump.

The good-ish news is that it seems to be relatively short lived, at least when it's in Malaysia. The spores don't seem to travel far or live long outside the plant. No telling how it will fare as it gets out into more wild environments in North America. Hopefully genetically diverse forest trees with better overall health will be better able to fend off the fungus.

Maybe it's just an artifact of how stressful the average nursery is on a growing plant, and nothing more. But if it's not VSD, there's more of the same incoming I'm sure. Happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability, it's been a frustrating few weeks since I don't have any decisionmaking power at this place and we don't know a lot at this point. what choice do i have but to lol, lmao

Light reading list if anyone's interested:
https://www.pubs.ext.vt.edu/SPES/spes-483/spes-483.html
https://nurserymag.com/article/the-redbud-problem/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1878614611001437?via%3Dihub

so is this loving up forests in the US right now or is it mostly affecting plant nurseries?

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

Hockenheim posted:

Just saw this on cable and it was a real crack ping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4P4yBAJ-w

I just spray every surface in my home with wd40 to repel moisture

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

Soggy Muffin posted:

You’re right I should allow this man to annoy me to death and wish no harm befalls him

that's how he annoys you to death though. have you tried making fun of his obvious bad health?

Soggy Muffin
Jul 29, 2003

Tungsten posted:

that's how he annoys you to death though. have you tried making fun of his obvious bad health?

No because I don’t want to trigger another ruminants will save us rant

UKJeff
May 17, 2023

by vyelkin

Soggy Muffin posted:

You’re right I should allow this man to annoy me to death and wish no harm befalls him

You should educate him and help him understand why he’s wrong. Each one teach one

Soggy Muffin
Jul 29, 2003

UKJeff posted:

You should educate him and help him understand why he’s wrong. Each one teach one

No. You’re in a doom thread dude, we ain’t wasting time on trying to teach others that are too far gone

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

Just a Moron posted:

I just spray every surface in my home with wd40 to repel moisture

wd40 is a solvent !!!

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Hockenheim posted:

Just saw this on cable and it was a real crack ping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4P4yBAJ-w

Holy crap. Choked on my tea watching that. Nice to see some old timey traditional American grifter after all that crypto.


So, come the cannibal wastelands, keto adherents for flavour, vegetarians for nutritional value?

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a strange fowl
Oct 27, 2022

Soggy Muffin posted:

Some guy I work with keeps telling me the only way to fix climate change is for everyone to go on a beef only diet. I made the mistake of debating him once like a year ago, and now he brings it up again or tries and show me some goofy poo poo from IG from some beef head influencer about how grass releases methane anyway and that cows absorb CO2. Apparently this is a big movement, probably started by Jordonson. This guy only eats beef and looks like absolute poo poo but says he’s never felt better while he’s sweating all the time and has dark circles under his eyes, always saying our ancestors only consumed ruminants. Hope he has a stroke or some poo poo tbh

Edit: he also says he won’t fall for vegetarian and vegan brainwashing when I bring up we need vegetables to be healthy. I’m like dude, you beef heads are way more annoying than they are
lol

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