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Mookie the man closest to the Anti-Life Equation.
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Trapezium Dave posted:I'll say one thing in Legacy's favour is that Mookie appears to have grown out of having his heroes do something exceptionally cruel to antagonists which he clearly wants to be read as badass but actually makes them appear as psychopaths. However, he did it by making them do NOTHING instead.
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Jun 5, 2023 16:24
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how much more do you think there will be in the victory lap before they've overcome Challenges T. Symbol and Dominic (with his dick out) tells them what good boys and girls they are? I'm betting like maybe 2 more strips of dreamscape wandering at best before he gets impatient and this ends in like... 10 strips.
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Jun 5, 2023 16:34
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Waiting for this comic to end is like watching the pitch drop experiment.
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Jun 5, 2023 17:56
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Do you think Mookie has an editor or something like it? Is there anyone he runs the plot by? I'm not trying to make a personal judgement, but does the dude not handle criticism well? Can he not handle it at all? I'm honestly just trying to figure out how this gets to the page. I've read fanfic written by literal children that had better execution and characterization.
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Jun 5, 2023 18:06
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GreenMetalSun posted:Do you think Mookie has an editor or something like it? Is there anyone he runs the plot by? Lol no he absolutely doesn't. You can tell because he DID honestly do better work on Star Power, which was a collaborative effort. But it was still undeniably Mookie (i.e. bad) and Garth eventually was the one to end the comic, likely because he felt held down by Mookie.
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Jun 5, 2023 18:10
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GreenMetalSun posted:Do you think Mookie has an editor or something like it? Is there anyone he runs the plot by?
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Jun 5, 2023 18:22
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I do love that for him, at least you know he's having fun.
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Jun 5, 2023 18:22
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You know what, it IS fun at least as far as writing goes. I'm retaking my English and a lot of what I've been encouraged to do has been improvisation. I don't like to do it, I NEED and LOVE planning, but now I've gotten into the swing, I've surprised myself at how quick witted I can be. I'm quite proud of the comedy "mundane" spy narrative I spun out of a simple insurance claim for instance. But even then, I have outlines. I have a set of things in front of me that are like "you need to XYZ". As I said, I plan. Probably too much, sometimes it's all planning and I can never be arsed to execute it. But I've recently found it's very liberating having a simple set of bullet points, limited time and no compass otherwise. Thing is, I don't think Mookie even has THAT. We know from his recent blog post he had no clue how this was going to turn out when he started. God, just have an END to write towards, at the very least. MuddyFunster fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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Jun 5, 2023 19:21
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“We climbed a mountain range” given the same weight and narrative import as “we got some milk”
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Jun 5, 2023 19:24
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"Find the people who found us" Lemonhead is the only person who "found" Snout that isn't already present, right? Unless Oh No Oh gently caress no Swamp Witch is coming back.
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Jun 5, 2023 19:55
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Cloacamazing! posted:"Find the people who found us"
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Jun 5, 2023 21:05
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I wonder if speedrunning to the end means that Redactor and Mhorgs will even show up again. I might have an amount of respect for ending their role in the story at them getting pelted by produce instead of telling us explicitly that they failed the friendship test. Re: improv, there was a time before I realised that long-form narratives (like most webcomics) are not actually pre-planned by their authors. Since this is after that time, I don't think I care too much about mookie going full improv on his stories. He's even good at remembering little details and making small callbacks every now and again, so his internal worldbuilding is at least somewhat robust. The problem is what he does with all that, which is... the comic we've been reading, and not something better. He's also probably better when he does plan ahead, which the re-read has been showcasing recently. For as bad as the March Against Maltak was, the switch to filler mode with the three shorter chapters afterwards has been painful to read.
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Jun 5, 2023 21:07
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YF-23 posted:I wonder if speedrunning to the end means that Redactor and Mhorgs will even show up again. I might have an amount of respect for ending their role in the story at them getting pelted by produce instead of telling us explicitly that they failed the friendship test. I totally think this is happening and it's so funny
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Jun 5, 2023 21:28
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Cloacamazing! posted:"Find the people who found us" love to be the bearer of bad news but the narrator is repeating words that legacy-dominic has said before, just using 'we' instead of 'I' and the like
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Jun 5, 2023 22:24
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also I am 100% teeing myself up to be extremely wrong and they fly right into a giant bogwitch open labia loving do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiit you coward mooks
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Jun 5, 2023 22:27
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YF-23 posted:I wonder if speedrunning to the end means that Redactor and Mhorgs will even show up again. I might have an amount of respect for ending their role in the story at them getting pelted by produce instead of telling us explicitly that they failed the friendship test. Rotten Red Rod posted:I totally think this is happening and it's so funny This was definitely the point of the page with Jacob looking back and forth at the two groups from the rooftop, but oh my god, it explains everything weird leading up to that. Snout seeing her hat dream diary wasn't a recap or an expo dump, it was the reveal that she and Skullet aren't friends, and so can't get to Asinotaph because the key is literally the power of friendship. It was their moment of defeat. And so the crowd then throwing produce at them wasn't Mookie's way of getting them out of the scene, it was the defeated cartoon bullies being humiliatingly run out of town by the emboldened locals. And since the characters know what Mookie knows, everyone immediately got upset at Jacob simply because it was Snout's diary, because its contents didn't matter anymore.
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Jun 6, 2023 05:49
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Because bad people never have people they genuinely care about, ever
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Jun 6, 2023 07:37
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If this really is the end then that means there was exactly one scene that showed fully penetrative sex in this comic. which is definitely the weirdest amount of sex scenes to have in a non-pornographic work, right? it's not just me? it feels like there would've either been more or less?
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Jun 6, 2023 08:56
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It's absolutely not just you and I was going to mention it when it was finally over and there was no risk of jinxing it. Which if it now happens is totally your fault. I guess Mookie technically promised that right at the beginning of Legacy and he has a weird obligation that he had to deliver. I suspect it's a big reason why barely anyone outside us is discussing the comic because everyone sensible noped out at that point.
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Jun 6, 2023 09:14
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yeah actually they will posted:If this really is the end then that means there was exactly one scene that showed fully penetrative sex in this comic. which is definitely the weirdest amount of sex scenes to have in a non-pornographic work, right? it's not just me? it feels like there would've either been more or less? It still baffles the mind how Mookie decided that if Snout was going to do a full-on penetration in the comic, it has to be this random nasty bog hag he has no emotional connection with. Really makes all those naked (platonic) cuddling with Idiot and Corpsemomdaughterwife even weirder than it should've been.
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Jun 6, 2023 10:29
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Hey get into my swamp
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Jun 6, 2023 11:45
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Because bad people never have people they genuinely care about, ever This really seems to be what he believes, anyone with any positive emotional connections in the original comic gets redeemed except Dance Commander, and that only because Siggy was also evil.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:51
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yeah actually they will posted:If this really is the end then that means there was exactly one scene that showed fully penetrative sex in this comic. which is definitely the weirdest amount of sex scenes to have in a non-pornographic work, right? it's not just me? it feels like there would've either been more or less? amigolupus posted:It still baffles the mind how Mookie decided that if Snout was going to do a full-on penetration in the comic, it has to be this random nasty bog hag he has no emotional connection with. Really makes all those naked (platonic) cuddling with Idiot and Corpsemomdaughterwife even weirder than it should've been. You both hit it on the head. It's not that I'm looking forward to more mookie sex scenes but man is it weird to have all this random nudity and one (1) scene of penetration and then...nothing. it just contributes to the weird sense of sexless-ness (despite the above) because it feels like it's just ticking off a checklist and not forming an emotional connection. Because it definitely feels like mookie wants you to have an emotional connection--if he wanted to write porn I think he would just write porn and not really bother with even the most basic world-building and character development that didn't lead to loving. Edit: it feels weird talking about this comic to other people; I was telling my roommate about it and I said, "I don't know how else to explain it but this comic is not porn but it still has one, several-page long sex scene that shows full penetration. But I would absolutely not describe anything in the comic as arousing or trying to be arousing, despite what I think is the author's intent" Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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Jun 6, 2023 14:09
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yeah actually they will posted:If this really is the end then that means there was exactly one scene that showed fully penetrative sex in this comic. which is definitely the weirdest amount of sex scenes to have in a non-pornographic work, right? it's not just me? it feels like there would've either been more or less? It’s a good point I was thinking about as well. I don’t think it’s entirely weird to have just a single sex scene - I’ve seen other comics that do such a thing once - but that one time is an expression of closure where the big romantic plot finally resolves… not some weird hook up in the middle of the story with a girl whose name the main character never learned. I think that’s more the disconnect, that if you’re going to show that your hero Is A Guy Who Fucks and then even imply His loving Causes Him Troubles doing it once in the middle of the story with a random hookup and then never touching the subject again is really weird; like you’re implying that you have decided the idea was a mistake and we’re never talking about it again.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:21
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one of the things that make DD/legacy so gaze-into-the-void compelling is how these stories are written incredibly chronologically and ever-so-often autobiographically. legacy involves the ink witch, because he started legacy right around October when he was doing Inktober and was drawing a prototype version of her. their relationship changed after he caught whiffs of people souring on it. he did the cabin interlude because he spent time in a cabin in the woods. four years of writing dumb dogman snout and he realizes 'gently caress this isn't actually what I want at all' and we start sprinting towards the finish line. he's written about being sex-positive before but through legacy I think he's more interested in being sex-casual (or being seen as such, but I am going to assume cluelessness/miscategorization over active deception) with the way he's depicted intimacy in legacy. attraction and sex can happen in a rush, no moral, which is fine enough in a vacuum- but journeyman deegan thread addicts will recognize by now that ideas mean poo poo when the execution is a butt. here's two blog posts he made back in 2019 and 2021 respectively quote:"Nudity in The Legacy" quote:"The Sex Is The Point" it's amazing how he wrote so much and said so little. maybe because it's early but all I got was "I used to do explicit violence and gore but not explicit sex, but not anymore! I'm done with gore and now I'm gonna do some SEX STUFF. that might make a few of you UNCOMFORTABLE with how transgressive it is, to show a mongrelman's flacid penis. don't worry though. he is attracted to ink witch but not AROUSED by her. i guess you could say snout's a bit of a "soft boy." but buddy you're going to know well, well in advance when it's time to bone down, and then when it happens, i'm NOT gonna censor it!!!!" i got a little out of character at the end but you get the idea
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Jun 6, 2023 15:21
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INTERLUDE: THE BEAST, Part 4 Goddamn it, we're still in WILD EDGE! Anyway, here's a naked Celesto sitting on a rock.  "I am I." Real deep, bro. More importantly, we have the return of Ball Made of Smaller Balls.  Celesto's pretty calm for someone who's supposed to be the Champion of Chaos or whatever. I thought we were rid of TIM but he's back, because Mookie loves the guy for some reason.  How can you make a psychic battle between incredibly powerful forces look so boring? Where's the loving imagination?  Wow, very interesting, so enlightening. This was not a complete waste of time. Next time: KARNAK
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Jun 6, 2023 15:45
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My theory is still that Snout was supposed to bone down with both Idiota and Corpsemommy but Mookie wussed out both times. But he still REALLY wanted a sex scene, so bog witch was likely created just for that purpose alone. He didn't want to make a porno comic, he just wanted the cred of being a modern sex positive person. But once he did that sex scene, he totally had it out of his system and he never went there again. He even eventually lost interest in drawing everyone naked and they started having clothes in the dream realm for no explained reason. The facecock scene is just inexplicable though. I cannot fathom why Mookie felt the need to put that in.
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Jun 6, 2023 15:47
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quote:It’s going to be uncensored but I’m going to do my best to keep it “natural” instead of “explicit” or “gratuitous.” There isn’t going to be any graphic violence. Whoof, talk about failed on all counts. Natural? Absolutely not. Explicit? Yes. Gratuitous? Yes, for all his talk of there being a point to it, there was none that I can see. Graphic violence? Couldn't help himself with the nude drowning woman, could he? Alright, it's not KAAARNAAAAK!!! ripping apart bodies and drinking blood and whatever the gently caress that arc was, but given that we know Mookie's a weirdo about that sort of necro stuff... UUUUURGH. Actually, now I think about it, KARNAK! did have Snake Tits and I'm sure she died a horrible sexualised death. rudecyrus posted:Next time: KARNAK OH GOD, HERE IT COMES
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Jun 6, 2023 15:58
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Lemonhead: "Now that you're all here... do you want to pay the subscription fee for Combat Magic, or are you going to stick with the free trial for another two hundred years?"
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Jun 6, 2023 16:48
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MuddyFunster posted:OH GOD, HERE IT COMES Dominic Deegan: OH GOD, HERE IT COMES
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Jun 6, 2023 16:52
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MuddyFunster posted:Graphic violence? Couldn't help himself with the nude drowning woman, could he? Alright, it's not KAAARNAAAAK!!! ripping apart bodies and drinking blood and whatever the gently caress that arc was, but given that we know Mookie's a weirdo about that sort of necro stuff... UUUUURGH. He had a scene in Legacy where the flesh literally sloughed off a guy's arm, it was pretty loving gross
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Jun 6, 2023 17:09
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Am I supposed to infer that he's mind-controlling Bort with a blade of grass? But then why does Bort still write in broken English?
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Is he? I figured Bort just found the naked guy and made a sign because roflmao monkeycheese.
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Jun 6, 2023 18:22
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I will admit I'm not paying enough attention to the reread because it melts my brain but I honestly thought that was Dominic with a beard for a moment
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GrossMurpel posted:Am I supposed to infer that he's mind-controlling Bort with a blade of grass? But then why does Bort still write in broken English? Nah I think the blade of grass is like the feather in Forrest Gump, it's just a way of establishing the scene. Which I'll admit is more effort than Mookie usually puts in.
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Jun 6, 2023 18:30
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I figured it was just a half-assed lol randum segue, not too be seriously. Just wanted to mention how loving awful the Bort and unnamed mongrelwoman subplot is. From the shy guy "do you like me y/n" to someone he literally met seconds ago to her regretting breaking Bort's heart and realization that Bort is obviously wonderful based on zero anything, and Bort's wallowing in self pity, it's all pure strain nice guy and soft boi bullshit.
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Jun 6, 2023 18:48
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That one sex scene and the bizarre face slap with Snout’s dong are basically just absolutely bizarre land mines in the narrative that serve no point whatsoever. He says “there’s a point to it!” but no, there isn’t. There can’t be because he doesn’t plan anything ahead of time and he doesn’t depict things with enough artistry to just have the art justify itself. There’s nothing there but the shock and upset of any reader who picks this up.
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Jun 6, 2023 19:07
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Joe Slowboat posted:That one sex scene and the bizarre face slap with Snout’s dong are basically just absolutely bizarre land mines in the narrative that serve no point whatsoever. He says “there’s a point to it!” but no, there isn’t. There can’t be because he doesn’t plan anything ahead of time and he doesn’t depict things with enough artistry to just have the art justify itself. I’m trying to imagine the cockslap rendered with enough aesthetic value to justify itself and it’s not working.
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Some, ANY kind of repercussions for the cockslap! Be it somebody having a go at him for acting like an overgrown, sugared up toddler, or at the very least a withering "You're on thin loving ice, son!" glare from Arudak on the next page. But no, nobody tells Snout off, except for baddies. He is good, always. She probably deserved it, that nasty uptight tail puller! Karma for the tail pulling! That'll teach you! This is the general childlike mentality of a comic that has a close up penetration shot, naturally. MuddyFunster fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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