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Antigravitas posted:You shouldn't dive anywhere near the Danish isles because the area is busy as gently caress and quite shallow, along with pretty brutal tidal currents between those isles despite the Baltic not having much tidal movement otherwise. We are talking <25m anywhere around Denmark, often <10m even in the Greater Belt. The Øresund between Kastrup and Malmø is minimum 7m deep. No subs coming that way, lol. Storebælt depth is 60m under the East Bridge.
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hemale in pain posted:Hadn't russia threatened to blow up the dam before and I thought it was reported as rigged with explosives? Ukraine asserted that Russia had planted explosives in it.
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Jun 6, 2023 11:44
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Looks like we found our new thread name. some unconfirmed sources point to planned demolition https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1666031403471982592 https://twitter.com/sternenko/status/1665999679887212546 https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status/1665997969672347650 reportedly water level was record high just before the dam's destruction, possibly because sluice gates were closed by Russians https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1666012180217462785 also Peskov blames Ukraine, thus confirming it was Russia https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1666029425173864449 no immediate threat to NPP according to IAEA https://twitter.com/iaeaorg/status/1665956258317496323 Dwesa fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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Jun 6, 2023 11:47
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it's like the dambusters but crap
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Jun 6, 2023 11:51
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Jun 6, 2023 11:52
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Where is the dog?!
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Jun 6, 2023 12:00
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Disco Pope posted:Where is the dog?! Believe me, you do not want to read anything on the topic of dogs during and after the Bucha massacre. It’s an extra layer of tragedy on top the human one.
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Jun 6, 2023 12:07
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I hope Sgt Good Boy is ok :-(
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Jun 6, 2023 12:21
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Dwesa posted:
Must be those same SEALs from the Nordstream sabotage, this time not in wetsuits but invisibility cloaks to get into the dam and place a massive explosive charge without any Russians noticing. Looking at this war like it's EVE Online, we may have reached the 'didn't want that
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Jun 6, 2023 12:25
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Disco Pope posted:Where is the dog?! Taking a break after rebuilding the city.
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Jun 6, 2023 12:29
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The Lone Badger posted:I suspect it'll never be able to start up again though. May not even be decomissionable, depending on how spicy the inside of the reactor dome gets. Its been cold shutdown for months, they'll be fine.
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Jun 6, 2023 12:30
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Does this mean there's enough water to move Subs upriver now or is the salinity of the river water too low?
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Jun 6, 2023 12:41
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Mokotow posted:Believe me, you do not want to read anything on the topic of dogs during and after the Bucha massacre. It’s an extra layer of tragedy on top the human one. Yeah, I know, but I don't want to know, if you follow me.
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Jun 6, 2023 12:47
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CommieGIR posted:Its been cold shutdown for months, they'll be fine.
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Jun 6, 2023 12:49
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CommieGIR posted:Its been cold shutdown for months, they'll be fine. lol They’ll just blow it the gently caress up before leaving, and blame the Ukrainians. You know, like they just did to a dam and hydroelectric plant It’s not like Russia gives a poo poo what happens to a Ukraine if they can’t hold it
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Jun 6, 2023 12:55
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Victis posted:lol They didnt blow up Chernobyl when they were leaving Kyiv outskirts
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Jun 6, 2023 12:59
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Russia is so salty about losing they just submerged a whole region. A flood of cope. The destructive flailing tantrum of an embarrassingly pathetic diaper aficionado. Putin is a real piece of poo poo.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:01
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Victis posted:lol They've threatened to, but I suspect they realize that'll likely turn more stinkeye on them. Nobody is buying a false flag around the plant.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:08
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fatherboxx posted:They didnt blow up Chernobyl when they were leaving Kyiv outskirts And? How long were they in control of it compared to Nova Kakhovka or ZPP? How much worse has the invasion gotten, and how much less likely has any kind of victory anywhere become? “Surely Russia hasn’t gotten that spiteful yet”
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Jun 6, 2023 13:09
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Victis posted:And? How long were they in control of it compared to Nova Kakhovka or ZPP? How much worse has the invasion gotten, and how much less likely has any kind of victory anywhere become? Blowing a dam is one thing, if they blow up a nuclear power plant, there will be immense international outrage over it. Threats are one thing, Russia's been threatening to nuke people for months, but doing so is completely different. I will be surprised if they act on the threat to the ZNPP
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Jun 6, 2023 13:12
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fatherboxx posted:They didnt blow up Chernobyl when they were leaving Kyiv outskirts On the other hand, Ukraine would like to power ZPP back on, while Chernobyl has been closed down for a while. Only one of them would be a big loss if destroyed. (Though both would ofc be a huge mess)
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Jun 6, 2023 13:13
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Victis posted:And? How long were they in control of it compared to Nova Kakhovka or ZPP? How much worse has the invasion gotten, and how much less likely has any kind of victory anywhere become? There is a big difference between blowing up a dam to gently caress up south part of the country (including territories that are going to be deoccupied from Russian control sooner or later) and irradiating a good part of Europe including Russian territory
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Jun 6, 2023 13:14
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Boot found at dam, Americans to blame.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:40
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Sedgr posted:Russia is so salty about losing they just submerged a whole region. A flood of cope. It's less spite or cope and more planned dice throwing. The blowing or failing of the dam has been wargamed and considered on both sides. Can't say for sure which way it's going to hit worse, other than the brunt of harm will hit civilians. Putin is indeed a piece of poo poo.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:44
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As dismaying as it it, given russia incompetence in just about every area it seems exceedingly likely that for the foreseeable future all they will have the capacity/capability to affect is harm on civilians....
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Jun 6, 2023 13:49
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Considering this is a pretty massive warcrime, this will absolutely put the gas on weapons deliveries to Ukraine.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:53
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-kakhovka-dam-ukraine-2023-06-06/ An estimated 85% of the water to Crimea is at risk, so yeah fun times to live there.
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Jun 6, 2023 13:57
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Splorange posted:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-kakhovka-dam-ukraine-2023-06-06/ It's only like ~15% of the drinking water (rest is industrial/agricultural use) and the canal was shut off 2014-2022 so it's nothing they haven't weathered before. They've had a year to let reservoirs fill so it will be some months before they're as badly off as they were pre-invasion.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:01
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Whilst we don't yet know for certain, if it was indeed Russia (and they are most likely culprits by far IMO), then it once again just demonstrates their utter disregard for the people of Crimea and the other occupied territories. Heck I wonder if this might not backfire, making their position seem more untenable, creating more fear and uncertainty in the Crimean population.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:06
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CommieGIR posted:Blowing a dam is one thing, if they blow up a nuclear power plant, there will be immense international outrage over it. Threats are one thing, Russia's been threatening to nuke people for months, but doing so is completely different. Blow up a nuclear power plant sounds like a good way to get the final fence-sitters (China, India, etc) to take sides against Russia. Russia is depending on countries like these to help it evade sanctions, buy it's oil and generally keep it's economy from totally collapsing.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:09
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the holy poopacy posted:It's only like ~15% of the drinking water (rest is industrial/agricultural use) and the canal was shut off 2014-2022 so it's nothing they haven't weathered before. They've had a year to let reservoirs fill so it will be some months before they're as badly off as they were pre-invasion. True indeed it says so in the rundown, I was thinking more of what the water quality will be as opposed to running out - in any case loving over Crimea was apparently worth whatever benefit is perceived to be gotten from busting the dam.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:09
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Dam blows up/collapses and pictures/videos everywhere 1500 dead Ukraine soldiers, bunch of tanks, 100 armoured vehicles blown up aaaaaand....nothing
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Jun 6, 2023 14:13
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Maybe russia got a little shook about those reports a month or so ago about Ukraine setting up shop in the marshlands on the left bank...
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Jun 6, 2023 14:15
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HappyHippo posted:Blow up a nuclear power plant sounds like a good way to get the final fence-sitters (China, India, etc) to take sides against Russia. Russia is depending on countries like these to help it evade sanctions, buy it's oil and generally keep it's economy from totally collapsing. Also France still buys Uranium from Russia and Rosatom is one of the few state companies that are not yet sanctioned by EU
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Jun 6, 2023 14:17
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short thread on Zaporizhzhia NPP tl;dr: all reactors except one are cold and require very little water for cooling (comparable to water hose per reactor), one reactor is warm/hot, but water from cooling pond should last for months even if not replenished https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1665947369442033664 explosions in Tokmak https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1666073259123568640 https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1666071677292118018 MBTs in Bilhorod, formerly territory of Russian Federation  https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1666061372931571721 Dwesa fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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Jun 6, 2023 14:28
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Dwesa posted:short thread on Zaporizhzhia NPP I would think that whatever cooling water they need could be drawn from the river regardless. I don't think there's going to be a problem.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:34
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So basically everything everywhere all at once.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:55
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Deteriorata posted:I would think that whatever cooling water they need could be drawn from the river regardless. I don't think there's going to be a problem. The plant has its private reservoir for emergencies/cooling, usually they draw directly from the river to replenish when the reactors are critical and operating, but they keep enough on hand to keep the reactors and the spent fuel ponds filled and cool even in a drought.
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Jun 6, 2023 14:59
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 https://twitter.com/maxfras/status/1666079339178500100
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Jun 6, 2023 15:05
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Time to play Where’s Saldo? *glug glug noises*
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