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Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Elephanthead posted:

I miss online poker

I had a roommate in college who was an online poker player. It was his full-time job until suddenly he was moving out, stopped paying rent, and left us with the bill thanks to NY being "joint and several" in their leases. :v:

I can't imagine what could possibly have happened.

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sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

He bought a nice house in Monaco and hosed right off.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

In gambling you can only lose 100% of your money, but you can gain ∞%. If you aren't gambling you are literally throwing money away.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Gaius Marius posted:

In gambling you can only lose 100% of your money, but you can gain ∞%. If you aren't gambling you are literally throwing money away.

look at this guy who hasn't discovered leverage

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Jabor posted:

look at this guy who hasn't discovered leverage

That's right, if you lose your money you can hire a team of con artists to get it back

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

sleepy gary posted:

He bought a nice house in Monaco and hosed right off.

This got me wondering what the requirements are for residency in Monaco, and it's not as ridiculous as I expected. €500k in a local bank.

https://harveylawcorporation.com/monaco-residency-permit/

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

The part where you need a French long stay visa if you aren’t already an EU citizen is a bummer.

Also the section on Monaco citizenship should just say “no”.

Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

Monaco bans citizens from gambling in their casinos, why would you even want citizenship there if you can't lose your life savings not understanding baccarat

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

Baccarat within Monaco: why would I even want citizenship?

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

SettingSun posted:

Didn't the same thing happen early in the pandemic when lots of people bought the wrong Zoom stock?

I also remember back in 2016 the slightly more on point one of people buying Nintendo stock when Pokemon Go was a big thing, despite like 4 degrees of seperation between Nintendo and the game.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Vice President posted:

Monaco bans citizens from gambling in their casinos, why would you even want citizenship there if you can't lose your life savings not understanding baccarat

Monaco prevents their citizens from being BWM? What a nice country.

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
Facebook is losing millions on VR.
Apple: hold my beer, here’s a VR system that costs 12 times as much.

e: to be fair, I’m not sure who is bad with money here, apple or the people who are going to buy it.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Residency Evil posted:

Monaco prevents their citizens from being BWM? What a nice country.

Cambodia does the same. Casinos out the rear end but for foreigners only.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Wifi Toilet posted:

Facebook is losing millions on VR.
Apple: hold my beer, here’s a VR system that costs 12 times as much.
I'm pretty curious how Microsoft's Hololens is doing with its very narrow target market of industrial engineering and the military.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Wifi Toilet posted:

Facebook is losing millions on VR.
Apple: hold my beer, here’s a VR system that costs 12 times as much.

e: to be fair, I’m not sure who is bad with money here, apple or the people who are going to buy it.

Check back in a few years, this is a long-term bet. It's a really nice device, but the killer app isn't here yet. They filed 5000 patents on the technology in the thing. Anyone who travels a lot is smack dab in the target environment, the ability to put yourself in a different audiovisual space looks like a godsend for the frequent fliers. Or you could shoot some panoramas of your home and then Facetime your family while you're travelling. They won't be the same for everyone, but there are some real emotional moments to be unlocked by this.

I'm reminded of when iTunes added album art. I was at the ad agency, and everyone had their computer loaded with music. Groups of people were hanging out in each other's cubes, flipping through their music like old people used to do with vinyl collections. We couldn't all haul 50 pounds of vinyl in the office to share, but this felt like the same kind of shared experience.

A lot of it will depend on where on the Uncanny Valley EyeSight ends up.


e. We're going ahead with our Hololens pilots, despite the cuts to the dev team, ina spirit of cautious optimism.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm pretty curious how Microsoft's Hololens is doing with its very narrow target market of industrial engineering and the military.

The contract with the military has been repeatedly delayed with no deliverable and they laid off basically the entire hololens team in January.

mllaneza posted:

I'm reminded of when iTunes added album art. I was at the ad agency, and everyone had their computer loaded with music. Groups of people were hanging out in each other's cubes, flipping through their music like old people used to do with vinyl collections. We couldn't all haul 50 pounds of vinyl in the office to share, but this felt like the same kind of shared experience.

How long did that last and how much revenue did it drive?

Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.

Wifi Toilet posted:

Facebook is losing millions on VR.
Apple: hold my beer, here’s a VR system that costs 12 times as much.

e: to be fair, I’m not sure who is bad with money here, apple or the people who are going to buy it.

I don't think Apple is diverting nearly as much of their company resources into their VR foray, though. FB neglected a lot of its core businesses to chase the Metaverse dream. I think Apple will be just fine even if a vibrant consumer market for augmented/virtual reality isn't fully there yet.

I could be wrong, though.

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe
They can finance Vision with the absolute truckloads of money they will make on the 15" air

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009

Eric Cantonese posted:

I don't think Apple is diverting nearly as much of their company resources into their VR foray, though. FB neglected a lot of its core businesses to chase the Metaverse dream. I think Apple will be just fine even if a vibrant consumer market for augmented/virtual reality isn't fully there yet.

I could be wrong, though.

Apple is sitting on a pile of cash so large that it could buy any company the size of Procter & Gamble or smaller outright without needing to raise any debt. The amount they are investing in AR will be a rounding error compared to their iPhone business (and sure, the amount of revenue they will generate will also be a rounding error in the grand scheme of their business for the foreseeable future).

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Eric Cantonese posted:

I don't think Apple is diverting nearly as much of their company resources into their VR foray, though. FB neglected a lot of its core businesses to chase the Metaverse dream. I think Apple will be just fine even if a vibrant consumer market for augmented/virtual reality isn't fully there yet.

I could be wrong, though.

Yea, unless Apple is out there trying to make a VR world that I don't know about, they are investing way way less than FB is into it. This is just what Apple has been doing since forever, make the hardware and the platform, let everyone else develop all the other software and poo poo.

Fools Infinite
Mar 21, 2006
Journeyman
It will be insanely funny if apple's version becomes ubiquitous and I have to listen to nerds arguing with teenagers that apple didn't invent it.

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
I do appreciate that Apple has seemingly put in some interesting foundational principles into it though. Having it built from the ground up so that you are not completely isolated from your surroundings and inaccessible from others, is a component that I think is critical that all the others have missed. I've always felt like I couldn't spend much time in VR as either I was too isolated from my physical environment (just basic situational awareness) and also my digital environment ( having to lift the mask to see if it was my wife who texted me or not). Having all of it in one could be an interesting way to slice through that disconnect.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I want VR goggles with headphones that completely block out the outside world and then use various sensors to accurately reproduce it for me. I would wear them 24/7 so I would never be sure if my "reality" was accurate or if the goggle company or government were subtly altering it to influence me. Obviously it'd be nice to have AR functionality in the VR world and some games too.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

TraderStav posted:

Having it built from the ground up so that you are not completely isolated from your surroundings and inaccessible from others, is a component that I think is critical that all the others have missed.

doing it this way is typically called "augmented reality" instead of VR and has been a thing for ages. for example it was what MS's hololens & windows mixed reality focused on. and google glass before them

that said I personally would not pay even 20 bucks to sit in a google-street-view panorama shot of my home during video calls while traveling. i doubt a huge number of people are gonna pay $3500 for that feature. the lack of useful end-user applications for AR stuff is why hololens pivoted to going all-in on business usage.

this seems like mostly a prestige product for apple to say they made it, i doubt they are expecting to sell anywhere close to enough models to recoup development costs.

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jun 6, 2023

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

doing it this way is typically called "augmented reality" instead of VR and has been a thing for ages. for example it was what MS's hololens & windows mixed reality focused on. and google glass before them

that said I personally would not pay even 20 bucks to sit in a google-street-view panorama shot of my home during video calls while traveling. i doubt a huge number of people are gonna pay $3500 for that feature. the lack of useful end-user applications for AR stuff is why hololens pivoted to going all-in on business usage.

this seems like mostly a prestige product for apple to say they made it, i doubt they are expecting to sell anywhere close to enough models to recoup development costs.

You're likely right. I always assumed AR was an overlay on top of actual transparent glass, but I am also quite stupid too.

I'm in the camp that this is an experience that'll be quite novel and until people start putting it on their heads, won't really see the value in it.

I also think it is a non-starter at $3500 and that's just an early adopter price. No way it catches fire until it's at least $2k or under IMO.

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

I hope there’s controls so kids don’t have even more gross invasions of privacy posted all over the internet.

“Here’s some pics from Jackie’s birthday party” -> “here’s a first person parent POV of Jackie’s birthday party!”

Tomfoolery
Oct 8, 2004

Democratic Pirate posted:

I hope there’s controls so kids don’t have even more gross invasions of privacy posted all over the internet.

“Here’s some pics from Jackie’s birthday party” -> “here’s a first person parent POV of Jackie’s birthday party!”

You just need to tape 6 go pros together and you can already make a VR model of Jackie's birthday party

NyetscapeNavigator
Sep 22, 2003

mllaneza posted:

Check back in a few years, this is a long-term bet. It's a really nice device, but the killer app isn't here yet. They filed 5000 patents on the technology in the thing. Anyone who travels a lot is smack dab in the target environment, the ability to put yourself in a different audiovisual space looks like a godsend for the frequent fliers. Or you could shoot some panoramas of your home and then Facetime your family while you're travelling. They won't be the same for everyone, but there are some real emotional moments to be unlocked by this.

I'm reminded of when iTunes added album art. I was at the ad agency, and everyone had their computer loaded with music. Groups of people were hanging out in each other's cubes, flipping through their music like old people used to do with vinyl collections. We couldn't all haul 50 pounds of vinyl in the office to share, but this felt like the same kind of shared experience.

A lot of it will depend on where on the Uncanny Valley EyeSight ends up.


e. We're going ahead with our Hololens pilots, despite the cuts to the dev team, ina spirit of cautious optimism.

did tim apple write this

carrionman
Oct 30, 2010
I have maybe 5+ online meetings a week at the moment and 100% of the time no one has their cameras turned on other than the host. And the host is usually screen sharing.

The "ability to put yourself in a different audiovisual space" is about as useful as a teams background overlay.

The big thing for me with all this vr stuff, is unless I'm in the office or at home, once I'm done instead of a phone and earbuds that go into my pocket I've got a bloody great headset that needs to go somewhere it won't piss me off, get broken or get stolen.

Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

the letter writer wasn't directly stating they're bad with money but the horse-sized red flags are all between the lines

Ask Amy: A woman is torn between heart, head, and horse posted:

Dear Amy: In college in Montana, I majored in equine studies. After trying for four years, I finally got into an extremely competitive internship working with thoroughbreds in Kentucky. I started right after graduation.

During my junior year I met my boyfriend, “Alex.” We have now been together for over three years. I can’t imagine my life without him.

Alex started law school when I started the internship. I absolutely loved the internship, even though I was working 12-hour days. But I still cried most days and held onto one of his sweatshirts every night.

When the internship ended, I got a job with a poultry company back in Montana. A year and a half later, I have not stopped talking about or thinking about Kentucky.

My boyfriend is from Indiana and wants to return to his hometown after graduation, where he will have a client base and connections.

Kentucky is completely out of the picture for him, but I would love to go back. Neither one of us wants to deliver an ultimatum, but he said that if I go back to Kentucky, it would likely put the “nail in the coffin” for us.

I don’t think we could do long distance again.

My heart is torn. I know that we need to grow as individuals, but I am so lost.

Will I be wondering "what if" forever?

Do I really have to choose between chasing my dreams and love?

– Woman Torn in Two

:horse::sever::horse:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

The actual deal killer there is someone wants her to move to Indiana.

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

Vice President posted:

the letter writer wasn't directly stating they're bad with money but the horse-sized red flags are all between the lines

:horse::sever::horse:

Oh man, going from horses to chickens would break a girl's heart.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Desert Bus posted:

I want VR goggles with headphones that completely block out the outside world and then use various sensors to accurately reproduce it for me.

This is already how your brain and eyes/ears work

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


If I had that level of control over my brain I wouldn’t be posting on Something Awful :colbert:

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


Motronic posted:

The actual deal killer there is someone wants her to move to Indiana.
southern Indiana and northern Kentucky are the same thing! the exact same lame thing! these kids are making a mountain out of a molehill, they both want to live in the same lousy place, all they gotta do is pick which side of a river they want to live on

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal
How can you expect her to settle for an Indiana horse after she’s experienced a Kentucky horse?

Wifi Toilet fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jun 6, 2023

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon

NyetscapeNavigator posted:

did tim apple write this

If you weren’t a consumer around 2007 you might not remember how many apple commercials were simply scrolling though albums covers. That was it.

And it worked. On everyone.

It was so big that everyone who spent the past decade downloading MP3s suddenly spent a lot of time downloading album art for all those songs.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Blotto_Otter posted:

southern Indiana and northern Kentucky are the same thing! the exact same lame thing! these kids are making a mountain out of a molehill, they both want to live in the same lousy place, all they gotta do is pick which side of a river they want to live on

I assume he’s trying to make her move to like Elkhart or Fort Wayne or Gary or some poo poo

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I assume he’s trying to make her move to like Elkhart or Fort Wayne or Gary or some poo poo

A fate worse than death. I read, I want to move back to my hometown because I already have clients ready as "I'm getting a job with my daddy's law firm". Which is certainly GWM.

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Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I assume he’s trying to make her move to like Elkhart or Fort Wayne or Gary or some poo poo

well yeah that would obviously be a :sever: situation but that's less funny, to me

I kinda want to know more about the pathway of a young man that apparently leads from Indiana, to Montana for undergrad and law school, and then right back to Indiana, presumably to work at dad's law firm? strange trajectory, but sounds like the other half of that relationship might be working on the GWM cheat code (rich parents).

(also, has anyone broken it to the young lady that "I'm going back home, if you go to [location X] instead we're pretty much done" is all but an ultimatim?)

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